richard_smith237

Are you crazy? Scooters can drive in any lane as long as they are not impeding traffic. That is, they can drive in the rightmost lane as long as they are traveling faster than the vehicles in the left lane. The car (SUV) was clearly at fault for making the U-turn from the wrong lane. Indeed... jossthaifarang is repeating the common myth which swung around Thailand 10 years ago... At the time the Police in Sukhumvit area Bangkok (and perhaps other areas of Thailand) were running a racket - pulling over riders in the 2nd lane and fining them for not riding in the left most lane... there is no such rule. Some of the BiB even had no idea that there is no such rule, they simply learned from their peers - it took a while for this legacy error to sort itself out... But, some people still believe this to be a law [that motorcyclists must stay in the left such lane] - there is no such law.

Most people on this thread and forum are pro Thai, that’s why why we are here. But, being Pro-Thai without intelligent critical balance is simply bias…. As you have exampled… Pro-right & anti-wrong regardless of nationality is not the opinion you have expressed in this thread - That is why it probably seems like you against the world at the moment - you are on the wrong side of bias in this situation.

There is precedent for Thai on Thai, Thai on foreigner attacks & fights which ended in serious injuries & death… It would be fair for these penalties to be in line with those passed before under similar circumstances. Nationality should not play any part in the judgement or provide any reason for any of us to expect a more severe penalty.

Agreed…. IF those legal consequences for the Frenchman are the same as those a Thai would receive in exactly the same circumstances….

In my video, two punches and a half-hearted kick from the Frenchman don't constitute "incredibly beaten up". The Thai bloke fell badly - that's as much his fault as the Frenchman's, maybe more - which which was more responsible for his injury than Frenchie's punch. I think that’s the way most people see this… two people willingly fighting, not even an extreme fight…. But with horribly unlucky and potentially grave consequences. Then we have an utter fool come along and try and ‘tip the scales’ with some opposing bias as if this provides some balance to the thread…..

& no… that is your flawed reading comprehension leading to your hyperbole…. Not one person has suggested the ‘beating’ (fight) was justified…. The result is extreme & tragic & could have been the other way around with the French guy in ICU had the Thai guy landed one of his kicks or punches well. Both guys flighting - both at fault. It is being pointed out that this was not a an unprovoked attack on an innocent party.

You can go back to trilling the others thread with anti-British comments…. But, before you do…. Do you think the Frenchman should receive a more severe penalty than a Thai guy would under similar circumstances????

No…. Those are your words, your projection, your misunderstanding…. No one deserved this… but he wasn’t incredibly ‘beaten up’ - he was punched, fell and landed very badly… not stomped all over in a vicious attack, it was a ‘tit for tat, handbags a dawn’ fight….. The Frenchman wholly in the wrong for fighting, the Thai guy also wholly in the wrong for fighting…. Both complicit and to blame for in any injuries they receive as both were clearly willing participants in a fight. The outcome is tragic & I hope the Thai man recovers.

Yes… and you have been called out for your bias, unhinged, unbalance anti-Foreigner opinion….

The Thai guy was also fighting, you levied all blame at the Frenchman & have ignored the video evidence. I understand you want to apply balance and present a non-distorted opinion to counter what you believe are anti-Thai comments…. But, identifying that the media report leads with a false bias is not anti-Thai… the Thai guy was also fighting - that is the balance.

You just admitted to attempting to balance the scales…. In your view if you present a bias comment to counter an opposing bias comment believing it provides some balance !!!! It doesn’t… it just adds another unbalanced & bias comment. IF you can’t see that the Thai guy was also fighting and you are suggesting the French guy is 100% at fault - you are not balancing any scales… you’re just coming across as anti-foreigner…. Just as you did in another thread where your supposed ‘balance’ was anti-British. Your views which you claim offer balance clearly originate from a mind with an underlying agenda.

Both reengaged the fight when they could have walked away.

Was the Frenchman getting charged for DUI ? The report suggests they couldn’t as he was drinking later when they found him so couldn’t test him. What about the second French man? What crime dud he commit ? Or was he the fighter? Driving at night with red plates ? Is there actually a written law on that ?….. I’ve always understood it to be a myth…. Same as leaving the province…. The only regulation I know if is that the brown book must be filled in for the journey.

It’s an impossible task…. In some threads we see the foreigner doing wrong & blast him / her. In other threads we saw a Thai doing wrong & blast him / her. in this case the story has been misreported with bias from the offset heavily loading opinion against the Frenchman and painting the Thai guy as an innocent victim of an unprovoked attack. Highlighting that the Thai man is also complicit for his seemingly willing involvement in the fight as shown by the video does not present an ongoing hatred against Thai people, that’s just your profiting & bias shining through. Highlighting that the Thai man is also complicit for his seemingly willing involvement in the fight Is simply doing that… nothing more than pointing out ‘it took two to tango’…. Its also worth pointing out what appears to be an unbalanced response from the refusing bail when in similar & worse cases a Thai is afforded bail - perhaps the very point that foreigners present an elevated flight risk accounts for this.

Actually, they need to sit in a jail a few years for this violent attack. They need to be kept out of society for a while before being sent home and blacklisted. They??? You saw two French guys attacking the Thai guy without any provocation? Did you see the video at all? It was a fight, both parties guilty of poor behaviour… why such harsh judgement for the second French guy who did nothing ? The fight itself looked like a ‘tit for tat’ fair fight until the Frenchman landed a solid punch & the Thai guy fell hitting his head… it could have easily gone the other way….. …. at one point the Frenchman walked away and the Thai guy reengaged into the fight, then tried to run away & the French guy landing that final punch. All I see here are two guys behaving like utter idiots fighting… & no second French guy doing anything.

I think you made your point. Either you just trying to antagonise everybody here with your stupid defence of the French Thug or you are are indeed one of these foreigners living here who constantly look down on the locals and behave like the master race and behave like thugs. stop being a bell and move on from repeating the same over and over. My comments present no bias in highlighting the point with evidence that two people were fighting. If you think that is defending the Frenchman it is your bias which needs addressing. Nationality should not come into this issue at all…. Two guys getting into a fight. You have now brought further anti-foreigner bias into this discussion with some dumb & distorted master-race comment and suggestions that those of us who see a Thai also fighting are looking down on Thai’s…. That’s your bias again & needs calling out like the other unbalanced anti-forigner comments.

The ‘other person who knows everything’ says it was an unprovoked attack after she said the car was nice…. ….. are we suddenly believing everything we read or are told ?

Rich daddy That’s your only understanding of how someone in their 30’s can own something like a Porsche ?

If he was attacked defending himself doesn't make him a willing participant That depends how you define ‘willing’ & ‘reluctant’…. Walking towards someone who’s turning away to kick them perhaps exemplifies a little more than ‘reluctance’…. … anger, revenge, whatever the reason… the Thai guy also kicked out… it wasn’t defense, he wasn’t cornered… he was fighting…. No one deserved the outcome… just two silly men loosing their sense… I hope the Thai guy fully recovers, & I hope the French guy isn’t treated unfairly because he’s not Thai…. Any penalty should be the same as that any Thai guy gets under the same circumstances…

People travel all the time for triathlons etc… this is no different… We’ve brought in bicycles (for my son so a bit smaller), boxed up… … push-chairs, child car-seats, skiis… Just package it like it’s not new & you’ll be fine. Excess baggage etc is a different matter….

Good… it is only when officials are held accountable for their failure to protect the populace in allowing continued corruption that things may improve… Its is the very absence of this accountability which enables the safety shortcuts, the payoffs, the signing off on unlicensed venues, the back hander for the inspection certifications etc…. Endemic throughout society, corruption only lines the pockets of those in these positions, those who swan through life on a wave of entitlement targeting their opportunities to profit from thr shortcuts they offer…, Will anything change???… we hope, for the protection of the innocent.

Agreed… the wife ( of the Thai guy in ICU ) has clearly fabricated some utter BS and the media fell for it…. …… no one attacks ppl because they said their car is nice !!!

No we don’t know that at all…. That is just dumb s#!t you just made up. …..‘something’ happened, as yet the trigger is unclear, there was a fight… the Thai guy lost. The incident appears to have been misreported….. but the French guy is definitely responsible for his part in the Thai guy ending up in ICU. He deserves the same punishment a Thai would face in the same circumstances.

The people of a lot of nations do….. The disabled are more often than not considered a burden here. That is slowly changing. Try at a hospital for the disabled badge, I recall reading in another thread that they do exist. Additionally, just park in the disabled spot anyway… you are visibly disabled so no social justice warriors will complain to you.

Have you watched the video? …. it was a fight between two guys… not a savage unprovoked attack… he didn’t stamp on his head, use a knife or glass him savagely in the face…. The Thai guy fell hitting his head badly after getting hit… very unfortunate…. But it was a fight between two guys, not a savage attack. The video shows the Thai guy kicking out twice & the French man hitting & kicking him back…. What occurred before this point is not clear.