rumak

The stress of having to deal with (yet another) the trevails of getting insurers to pay would have killed me long ago . ( do they cover that ? 🙂

did you have both knees done ? 80k for one , or ? can you share how you researched this option..... why you "trusted" trying this treatment . and , where did you do it ? lots of questions, i know . but, would definitely appreciate any info you can pass along rumak

easy to say.... indeed ! Trying to get the Right exercise .... and the degree of exertion ... is a trial and error , case by case, joint by joint endeavor . And more often than not we err on one side or the other. my decision ( just yesterday) to go get the shots is based on my difficulty using my knees in a meaningful way to gain strength . so, my legs are getting weaker .

keep all those replies in mind ....... go see the ortho in pattaya . Listen closely . Go back home and read up again on all the types of knee pain ( rheumatoid, osteoporosis, osteoARTHRITIS ( most common) .... and many others) . then come back here and ask some more 🙂 (sheryl is helpful to assist ) but ultimately you will need to make your own decision what to try first. ( not surgery )

When i start to do "research" ..... i read whatever i can . Unfortunately, nowadays the sources shown on giggle are paid for almost exclusively by main street sources. Before there were many different ones ! But by searching and following some links a broader picture can be found. I especially like to look for "user reviews" ....regarding meds and procedures. Anywaysss.... a number of people reported good to excellent results... some lasting longer than the conservative 6 months usually quoted. I wonder how drs can keep throwing meds at people that all acknowledge are not good for longevity . And yes..... cheaper options than BK 5 star hospitals are to be found . MY opinion is that cost does not always mean better ( but sometimes, yes ) .

ALL MY POSTS ARE FACT CHECKED ! by my wife

yes, hopefully Saturday . I didn't expect to do it at first... but both knees now stiff. Not sure which one he gives ( but it is 3 shots, 1 a week ) Hyaluronic Acid shots ( from the internet ) : Brand Name How It's Given Euflexxa3 injections, each 1 week apart Hyalgan3 to 5 injections, each 1 week apart Orthovisc3 or 4 injections, each 1 week apart Supartz3 to 5 injections, each 1 week apart Synvisc3 injections, each 1 week apart Synvisc-One1 injection

actually the dr i see is an orthopedist ...lol . must have been something in my subconcious that wrote osteopath.......

1. due to osteoarthritis and not that badly advanced ......check 2. i have always been fit ....... in todays world i am called "skinny".....check 3. The length of time they last , according to studies, varies. And by "cushioning" the bones, the further wear and tear can be greatly diminished. And also enable the patient to actually tolerate doing stretches and strengthening which is so necessary to maintain ones health IMO ..... and if reading the alternatives ( drugs with warnings not to use for long periods) ..... or opiates to mask the pain ... or steroids : i think HA injections are definitely a great alternative . Maybe they work, maybe not . One poster here has had very good results . ....... oh, yes, my osteopath is who suggested this option

Thank you !! Sometimes anecdotal ( from a REAL person ...... not a paid ad or promotion) is worth a lot ! Yes...as we are so often reminded ( and should be understood by everyone) each persons condition is different , especially when discussing bones/ligaments/ etc etc . So of course finding the solution for each individual person is not an easy task. Even for doctors . OK .... So..... for you it was a blessing . From what i take from what i have read about the HA injections.... in my mind they are exactly what COULD work best for many : How Do These Knee Osteoarthritis Injections Work? Normal joint fluid contains a substance called hyaluronan. It acts like a shock absorber and lubricant in your joint and is needed to help the joint work properly. Hyaluronan is highly viscous, allowing the cartilage surfaces of the bones to glide upon each other smoothly. This leads to decreased symptoms of osteoarthritis. thanks again for posting.

you might get a bit tired reading this summary of arthritis symptoms, treatments , etc but it is a good summary . probably you will need some help figuring out what is your problem , and then what is best for you ( could always try the get stoned before sleep method first . ) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7931012/

AND ......... while we are on the subject .........would like to hear from anyone who has had a Hyaluronic Acid Injection ( given in a weekly series 2 to 5 shots depending on the brands/protocol). read about it ......... it is offered in Thailand ......... and different than the cortisone stuff. i am thinking seriously of going this route.....

there are, at last count, 26, 242 youtube videos on how to fix your knees . I am on number 462 . /s ( this means sarcasm.... as i found out recently ) from my extensive research I have found out that age is a very important factor in bodily ailments ( who woulda thought). And knees ? 73 is the magic year.... when pain suddenly pop out of the bottle . 73 ! now, i too am going through all the possibilities and sure thing fixes to find what will work for me . Stay tuned . 🙂

remember my creed (a guiding principle ) : give em an inch..... and they think they're a ruler 🙂 Over many years, and a few "relationships" .... I discovered that the more i asked "what do you want?" or "what do you think ?" ... and got the usual answer "Up to you" .... only to finally realize , stop asking ! Only problems ensued . Recently we just got rid of a bunch of stuff that was just collecting dust . ( i had forgotten my creed for a while)

Is there a "follow up " to this situation ? What has happened ?

so far you, Sheryl, and I (all long term experienced sources ) have expressed this opinion . I understand that the OP is not sure the best way to proceed . for what its worth... the one time i got the tourist police involved, the guy who came when i asked for mediation was definitely NOT on my side

Op said : I've also decided to call the tourist police. that could really complicate things .............. and, NOT in your favor

not a good idea (IMHO)

That's true, but it can be very helpful in situations like this. a thai friend that has the smarts and ability to converse ( mediate for you ) ...... not just a gf. in fact....... definitely not a gf unless she is really "different"

maybe you can give him the phone number of that police friend of yours 😅 but...... true that a "respectable" back up is a big help ( how many members here have that ?? )

to the OP : this answer is the one I think is best . now.... your PRESENTATION: a. if you can not speak Thai ..... bring a bi= lingual helper if you can ( not a lawyer ) b. keep your version VERY SIMPLE ..... do not go off on another tangent.... stick to the fact that the one who fell was in the wrong for passing on left as you were DISMOUNTING ,(can even add that you were "startled" (dtok jai ) in thai} c . Stay very calm (outwordly) , polite, soft spoken...... but resolute that you were not in the wrong d. If you feel that the chips and the "interviewers" are definitely against you.... ask politely what they suggest you do. ( sounds crazy, but at least it will give you some idea) . If they want a certain amount you can then determine if you want to pay ( again, should have a thai person with you to be sure there is an "agreement" signed by both parties e. If you really feel you are being scammed big time......... then ??? i would have to be there to suggest how to proceed. This is one situation where the ability to speak thai i think really helps .

owl sees all has a longgggg running down to earth account of his life in rural thailand here on AN ....... Diary of a farang in Isaan

the wife as well ??😁 I've lived both rural, semi= rural ( close to a major city CM), and 70 km away from CM ( turned 7 rai into a nice place ) . but by that time i didn't feel much like being a country gentleman or farmer . Each stage of life , if one is adventurous, offers experiences, good and bad . This latest stage ( advancing years !) has me finally accepting that semi-rural is now the best option..and one i liked best in other places. (that's just me) . If i had 6 great children that could take care of 30 rai .....planting and having real food .... and a nice swimming pool ... then i could live out in the middle of a coconut grove.

can i change that to "most SMART and critical thinking people who do not have complete acceptance of what the establishment tries to force people to believe".... have worked it out by now . Unfortunately.... the masses still outnumber the critical thinkers . Though no chance of changing the few unchangeable "minds" on this forum , it does seem a number of members certainly are waking up ... as more REAL facts are getting through the cracks of the establishment wall.

be sure to get more than one opinion . something that could be serious should...IMO, ..... be researched with two or three doctors "opinions" . ! WRONG diagnosis is a very common occurance in medicine : https://qualitysafety.bmj.com/content/26/6/484 ( i could post another hundred links regarding "misdiagnosis".... but you can google it )