Bkk Brian

Your previous post was poorly attempting to compare aid to Ukraine with Russia's military budget. Vast difference with the humanitarian aid that is needed and provided. Anyway whats been offered and what its received so far are 2 different things. This from top donor countries not just US: https://www.statista.com/chart/27278/military-aid-to-ukraine-by-country/

Russia's military budget in 2022 was $75 billion. Its 2023 budget is $84 billion. Ukraine has received around $27 billion in military aid so far. The rest was humanitarian

Russia can do that immediately by leaving instead of screaming. Stop helping Ukraine kick our ass, or else!"

Plenty of sanctioned Russian money to rebuild

The last sentence is also her sentiment. If you agree and find her credible then logically that is also part of her submission. Along with her multiple recommendations.

Finally someone read it. However all you've done is put out what main stream media put out. There's another 16 pages of context on that. My personal opinion in reading and digesting all of it. She comes across as credible in all she has to say and her recommendations. I'm not cherry picking any single parts. Vaccine side effects are known about, she has raised her personal experience along with her partners. However the benefits outweigh the risks for most people.

I didn't refer to CNN or BBC, I referred to the topic and the submission by Dr Phelps in its entirety. However its obvious you will remain blind to it so I wont bother repeating more of its contents to you.

Ok, goodbye, not into pathetic baiting

What do you fail to understand?

You said Western countries should leave other countries alone, I gave you an example of Russia invading. As for the freedom fighters: 1979 December Russia entered Afghanistan to re-establish a government closer to its desires. The subsequent 10 year war has been described as ‘Russia’s Vietnam’, with the country sending in thousands of troops, spending millions, and ultimately retreating. The war helped create the terrorist and extremist groups that are still in place today.

Russia invaded Afganistan first and brought about the terrorist groups. Check History

Until the conflict of the 1970s, the 20th Century had seen relatively steady progression for women's rights in the country, Afghan women were first eligible to vote in 1919 - only a year after women in the UK were given voting rights, and a year before the women in the United States were allowed to vote. In the 1950s purdah (gendered separation) was abolished; in the 1960s a new constitution brought equality to many areas of life, including political participation. But during coups and Soviet occupation in the 1970s, through civil conflict between Mujahideen groups and government forces in the '80s and '90s, and then under Taliban rule, women in Afghanistan had their rights increasingly rolled back. https://www.amnesty.org.uk/womens-rights-afghanistan-history

Did she also have to say? “Herd immunity from mass infection is a good idea.”xvii No it isn’t. “It’s just a cold”. No it is not. “COVID will evolve to be milder”. There is no evidence to support this. “COVID is not as bad as the flu”. Yes it is. “At least I got it over and done with”. No you haven’t. “Children are sicker this year because of immunity debt”xviii. Immunity debt is a made-up term to excuse exposing children to a dangerous virus. “The pandemic will end in 2022”xix. Unlikely. Daily press conferences by public health officials emphasised that of the people who died, many had “underlying health issues”, as if that made the premature deaths of those people any less tragic.

How can I be drawing something away when I provided the link to her full statement? The fact she is calling for more research into vaccine side effects and long covid together with mitigation strategies for reducing the spread of covid. The wild conspiracy theories she mentions by anti vaxxers. The abuse she's now getting online by anti vaxxers. The need to be open about side effects and long covid by infection. Yes she has talked about her side effects together with a lot of other issues that include stating: "However, she still strongly supports Covid vaccination as the benefits far outweighed the risks for the vast majority of people." I will not be dropping factual information for you or anybody else

Really, he didn't read it either, stop the deflection

Why would you rather be blind to what else she said? "However, she still strongly supports Covid vaccination as the benefits far outweighed the risks for the vast majority of people."

You obviously did'nt read her full submission.

Disciplinary procedures are written in their contracts, if they break their code of conduct they can get removed, what more do you need? You were referring to them getting removed. Your quote: "It's a good job there's no mechanism in place to remove the bigwigs or they'd be toast."

Dr Phelps now getting online abuse and hate speech directed at her "Other anti-vaxxers flooded social media using Dr Phelps' submission as evidence they were right to refuse the jab, and attacked her for pushing the vaccine throughout the pandemic." Anti-vaxxers gloat that Kerryn Phelps and her wife suffering horrific Covid vaccine side effects means their wacky conspiracies were RIGHT - as they make chilling claims about the jab Anti-vaxxers have quickly hijacked Dr Kerryn Phelp's revelation that she and her wife suffered serious Covid vaccine side effects. The former head of the Australian Medical Association detailed the debilitating adverse reactions in her submission to a Senate inquiry into long Covid. However, she still strongly supports Covid vaccination as the benefits far outweighed the risks for the vast majority of people. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11560629/Coivd-anti-vaxxers-hijack-Kerryn-Phelps-Pfizer-jab-injury-story.html I would suggest if anyone wants the context to the media reports then they read her full submission which was made as a private individual to the senate, not under her authority of her position. That does not make it any less credible however but for those that want to read what she actually said, the full 18 pages then I suggest you do before getting into the anti vaccine rhetoric, because she is not that at all. The main theme of her submission is dealing with transmission, mismanagement of long covid caused by infection and vaccine along with measures to reduce the continued risk of covid, that includes vaccination but more importantly other health measures. Some snippets, its a downloadable pdf doc so free to publish and read. Many of my colleagues and I tried to warn that children would be at risk and that opening schools before mitigation plans such as ventilation improvements in classrooms were in place was an unacceptable risk to teachers and students. Examples of misinformation in the early days, and some still in circulation include: “COVID is not airborne”xiii. Wrong. “Wash your hands to prevent transmission”. Ignored airborne transmission. “Masks don’t work, in fact they might increase your risk”xiv. Wrong. “Children under 12 have been proven not to be carriers or transmitters of the disease”xv Wrong. “It is necessary and inevitable for everyone to get COVID”xvi. No it isn’t. “Herd immunity from mass infection is a good idea.”xvii No it isn’t. “It’s just a cold”. No it is not. “COVID will evolve to be milder”. There is no evidence to support this. “COVID is not as bad as the flu”. Yes it is. “At least I got it over and done with”. No you haven’t. “Children are sicker this year because of immunity debt”xviii. Immunity debt is a made-up term to excuse exposing children to a dangerous virus. “The pandemic will end in 2022”xix. Unlikely. Daily press conferences by public health officials emphasised that of the people who died, many had “underlying health issues”, as if that made the premature deaths of those people any less tragic. Dr Anthony Fauci labelled Long COVID an “insidious public health emergency for millions of people”vi. I tend to agree While current COVID vaccines may reduce the risk of developing Long COVID by an estimated 15% (possibly up to 41%). The upshot is.. the only way to prevent Long COVID is to not get infected in the first place, or not to get reinfected. “Personal responsibility” has become a political cop-out and this failed strategy will lead to more and more cases of COVID19, reinfection and Long COVID. https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/House/Health_Aged_Care_and_Sport/LongandrepeatedCOVID/Submissions Doc 510

You said. You could acknowledge you were completely wrong or continue deflecting, a Vice president is not small fry and there will be more MEP's to follow and possibly other Vice Presidents

One EU Vice President has already been removed, other MEP's will follow

No point even discussing a preprint, did you miss the disclaimer? NOTE: This preprint reports new research that has not been certified by peer review and should not be used to guide clinical practice.

False equivalent nonsense, there is no excuse, the only country in the world blocking education for women

Peace talks are allowed when the terrorists get out. European Parliament declares Russia to be a state sponsor of terrorism https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20221118IPR55707/european-parliament-declares-russia-to-be-a-state-sponsor-of-terrorism