KhunLA

And yet, you are in Thailand, supporting how many Military Junta administrations with your VAT. A bit hypocritical expecting only the tourist to boycott Thailand on morality. PEACE OUT

In today's day & age of information, nobody is duped. Sorry, not buying. Poor choice is more like it. The only thing that went wrong is, they got in an accident. Or they'd just be more immigrants, keeping the wages low in Thailand. When news spreads back home of what happen, maybe that will deter others from the same, doubtful. Why do people try to justify, illegal immigration, OUTSIDE of their home country, when they are opposed to illegal immigration in the home country.

I feel compassion when people die, get injured, get dealt a bad hand. Yes, it sucks they died, but there are better ways. They paid money ... so they weren't that down & out. The ones walking across the border, not using traffickers, I have more compassion for. They made choices, obviously this time, it turned out bad. This is one of the reason why the laws are there. To protect people from themselves, not just the legal workers who get paid less. Illegal immigration / human trafficking is high risk ... does anyone not know that ??? That uncommon common sense.

How dare you ... ask Actually I haven't clue. The family is rich, and she's self funded now, a good thing. Rich kids trying to tell the rest of us how to live doesn't really resonate with me. Would think she has handlers and managers, she comes off so fake, actually annoying to watch, so I don't. IMHO I do what I can to protect the planet, as I was simply raised that way. Doesn't hurt the wallet either, in the process. win win, shame others don't just do the right thing. No perfect solution, balancing life, living the way you want and footprint on the planet, unless a subsistent farmer, and that's way too much work & boring. Besides, the planet will adapt to anything humans do, and if we fail to do the right thing, then the planet wins, and we'll all be dead anyway, and life goes on. Just without humans.

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Since started, it has yet to work for me, I gave up. Gives me a reason out of the house for a scooter ride. Luckily local office never crowded and only < 20 kms away.

"Of course, there is no rush to formulate my plan, at the moment." or so you thought ???? oops, too late, you died today. Hope not, but advice given. Let someone you know what your wishes are. If not having anyone, then your driver seems a good candidate. Take a minute or hour, put it paper, and your done. 2 signing witnesses make it official. If that does work, as suggested, who cares, you're dead.

I've had my share of 'down & out' times. Could easily went the illegal route, but weighed the risk. There plenty in Myanmar got dealt the same hand or worst, and excel without putting themselves at risk. That's world wide. Only difference is people work for it, instead of wallowing in their despair. I'm sure there's plenty of middle class in Myanmar, that started out dirt poor. Again, that's worldwide. Somehow they are smart enough, and raise money to do something illegal, but can't manage to use that same initiative to do something legally productive at home. Does make you wonder. Crossing over to Thailand, is no small feat.

No, I'm a realist, probably over tax / charge the wife for scooping me up. I have no faith, and don't depend on the gov't for anything, or anyone for that matter. Gov'ts aren't there to take care of you (unless circumstances dictate), that you're job. Gov't are there to protect you, and why there are immigration laws. Also to protect the immigrants. Ignore them... ... well sh!t happens, unfortunately.

And that's why Thais are stuck with < 350 baht a day salary. Illegal immigrants will do it for 100 or 200 a day.

They knew they were doing something illegal, that always comes with risks. There is nobody to blame but themselves. Is there anyone who doesn't know the dangers of partaking in human trafficking / illegal immigration. You make your choices in life, you live with them. Is nothing to do with my compassion. All the boo hoo'ers, are you happy your country has immigration laws, and get mad when people ignore them. Same same, not different.

Yea, they do, try entering legally. It's a lot safer.

Why would I want to leave anyway. Keep moving forward, not backward. Return to the USA NO THANKS No way I'm traveling out of country, especially by plane. Reported on Richard Barrow twitter ..took people 3 hrs to get through Imm / med check at BKK airport the other day. Add 3 hrs check in coming, and 3 hr check leaving, and whatever time when you get to where ever. 10 hrs of BS before you even allot time for the actually flight. 2 hrs is too long for me on a plane. Especially with what they consider customer service now.

They got some catching up to do:

Some of the chain stores, like Banana & JIB, have service techs also. Never been in there, Advice Dist @ FortuneTown: http://tiny.cc/q46luz

Then that's different from 2017, as I used the 800k, changing from marriage to retirement visa (in country), and after visa approved, withdrew all, putting it back in interest bearing account.

Hit & miss, and I'd be a bit leery using anyone not recommended by someone I know. I take mine to local Advice shop, as they have techs that do repair.

If you can show it on paper, then you should have. Don't know about other countries, but US embassy income letter was just an affidavit, so you could say whatever you wanted, and apparently many did. Did state down the bottom, info was not verified. Maybe someone in Thai Imm actually read it one day.???? They could easily verified with tax records, simply too lazy to do it for our $50. I'm glad, as I save $50 now. Where I come from in USA, it's illegal to charge more than $5 for a notary. $50, what a scam. Not sure about the gross vs net, always thought was just 'income'. Which I think a lot of people had an issue. I can see their pension being enough, but maybe an 'ex' had dibs on it, so in reality, they themselves didn't have the full amount to deposit in Thai bank. All the tightening of the rules that have always been there, are because of those that didn't follow the rules, and the rest of us are paying for it. Not me, but the good ones, that now fall through the cracks, just missing the requirements by a wee bit. In the past, they may have been a bit ore compassionate, but screw to many time by the scammers. Rule breaker always ruin it for those that follow the rules.

Greta ... seriously, what a joke, a puppet. Not much has changed, except a wee bit harder to be independent, self employed, but surely not impossible. Not sure about rest of the world, but USA, then & now, still land of opportunity, IF, you apply yourself. Today's youth, think they are entitled to a free ride. NO ... HAVE TO WORK IT Even Thailand, as hard as life can be being born here poor. Opportunity knock, just answer it. Know more than a few with poor roots, are doing just fine, actually quite nicely. But WORKED FOR IT. Stop complaining & get a job, they wouldn't have anything to cry about. Bunch of snowflakes.

Same as Confucius, early @ 46 yrs old Wealth ??? Just nice 'planned' retirement. Guess I made a few good choices, and little luck never hurts.

I was under the impression the OP was extending a non -O- ret visa. If OA visa, then things may have changed, due to scammer abusing it. No changes on the non -O- ret visa, that I've ever been asked for. Just tightening of the rules, more scrutiny of the paperwork, due to all you scammers, using agents to file a bunch a BS. Som naa na In reference to the 'income letters', Thai Imm didn't change anything. Embassies stopped issuing, because they weren't verifying the info (USA), which the Thai Imm finally realized, so asked them to. Since that actually involve work, hitting a couple keys on computer, or simply reading our official income documents, they simply stopped issuing them. Your embassies' fault, not Thai Imm. But nothing really changed, you simply had to verify you had the fund, by deposit (show me the money), monthly or lump in bank, available to live on in Thailand. Those that didn't, couldn't .... oh well. Same requirement 65k / 800k, but actually had to have, no more BS. Or continue scamming Imm by using agents. If using the seasoning 800k lump sum, 3 month (first time) 2 months (ext), and can withdrawal all after visa approval. For non -O- ret

No they haven't, please tell me what has changed. Just read, you're not saying / posting again. I'll search ... curious Done searching, and you did not post / list any retirement extension changes in any of your post, after stating 'they changed'. As I stated earlier, and Jack quoted me, which you quoted Jack (pg 3), stating they 'changed', but nothing after. One person did list changes 'to the country'; inflation, congestion bla bla bla, same as in every country. Imm ret. visa extension is the same as 20 yrs ago; prove address, prove income / financials. That's 4 different offices I've use, all the same. No scamming, no agent, it really is too easy.

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Then stay away from me and don't touch anything I do. Better yet, you should wash your hand, or wear gloves. Change your life for your paranoia, not mine. I do more than enough already, for y'all's paranoia, if not enough for you ... oh well