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The info about 17 percent destruction of oil refineries is on Reuters. Stop lying.

Terrorism on civilians.

That remains Putin's goal. He doesn't want peace.

I titled it this way because so many people have bought the Kremlin narrative that it is inevitable that Russia will win the war. No, it is not. In fact Putin had had years and has not accomplished his war goals. Now he wants to play games and make Ukraine give them away. Nice try. No cigar.

Kremlin narrative 100 percent. I am not a Trump supporter BTW.

About why Trump submits to Putin and sadly will continue to do so:

Go back to your maps. Ignore everything else going on.

You're just making stuff up in Putin's favor. You say you're objective. Anyone can see that you're not. That's OK but don't lie about it.

Putin probably does think that but he's in a position where he would murder people who give him bad news and ALSO he's in a position where if he loses the war OR doesn't win effectively enough, he's dead. He must win so it doesn't really matter if he believes he's winning or not. I think the reason Trump loves Putin is mostly about Trump's admiration for Putin as in Trump's disgusting mind, Putin acts as a leader should and Putin is the kind of leader Trump hopes to be. Also of course Putin is a trained KGB agent and knows how to play Trump's worship of him very well. Putin really is controlling Trump and that's very embarassing to decent Americans and it has been noticed by Europe who knows the USA is finished as a reliable ally. Back to reality, Putin is in a much more vulnerable position than the Z fascist propagandists, Russian and western useful idiots realize. No I am not predicting how the war will ultimately resolve or when (nobody knows that) but I started this topic because Ukraine has effected a momentum change in their direction because of the amazingly quick destruction of 17 percent of Russia's oil refining capacity. How can Russia defend against that? They are so big and that it turns out is a weakness that Ukraine is exploiting.

Have you looked at the drone attack maps on Russian oil infrastructure? Are you so simple minded that actually believe that this war is only about border maps? You are not objective at all. You're pushing a pro surrender narrative.

That is NOT logical dude! You want Ukraine to surrender. That would not lead to anything fair or just. You really don't know that? For anything approaching a fair and just negotiated settlement Putin MUST be forced into agreeing to that. At this point, he has no interest in that whatsoever.

That's your wish. We get it. Doesn't mean it will happen.

I never had any desire to burn the flag but I wouldn't mind burning some red hats.

Time to get this one going again. Angry Sardar (Indian) Angry Sardar is a well regarded Punjabi (Northern Indian) restaurant originated in Goa (South India) now expanded to Mumbai and Pattaya. Aren't we lucky? Anyway it's not the cheapest place by any means but they have some dishes they are famous for such as Angry Sardar chicken Butter chicken (the classic) Dal Makhani (the classic) I noticed a dish called Animal Style chicken. Intriguing but no thanks. It's located in South Pattaya. Here's their FB: (9) Facebook I did check it out in person and found it to be a somewhat luxurious party time place featuring cocktails and such (but empty at the hour I visited). I wasn't feeling the vibe and realized eating there would be very expensive to eat in for a full meal when really the only thing I was really curious about what the Angry Sarder Chicken. So I didn't but eventually I did try it on Grab. Got the Angry Sardar Chicken and a fancy cheese garlic chili naan. Normally I would want a dal with that but they make you buy a 400 baht rice and dal package to get dal, so nope. Anyway, as you can see in the picture this isn't your everyday Indian style chicken. Notice the char! Notice the thick crust! Imagine the flavor! Yes, it was really that good. It didn't taste like any other Indian chicken I ever had before. It was in a way closer to Jamaican jerk chicken, and a very good jerk chicken at that. Of course the flavors aren't the same. Tender and juicy meat inside the crust as well. The chicken comes with some very good onion chutney type thing and mint yogurt. Spicy of course as you would expect for an Angry dish but nothing too challenging for me anyway. I got lucky and the naan I ordered paired with the chicken beautifully. OK, I'm sold. Expensive or not, I'll be wanting more of that stuff in the future and I may even try some of their other dishes such as the classic butter chicken. So no need to GO to GOA to try this chicken.

He wouldn't be interested in knowing about anything that challenges his simple minded Z narrative.

Yes a huge price for very little. There are multiple things going on. The Z fascist cheerleaders are focused on insisting this war is much simpler than it actually is

How's that going to work out if Ukraine destroys 50 percent of Russia's oil refining capacity? Russia won't even have the money then to continue murdering civilians.

You post that accusation as fact. Very sleazy. The reality is that both sides have accused each other of the sabotage.

Au contraire. You don't so don't bother telling me whether to comment. I guess it's exactly defending war criminal dictator Putin day in and day out.

Tiny amounts. Nothing game changing.

Russia hasn't had a mobilization lately. In the early days of the war there was a massive exodus of Russian young men. So you're simply WRONG in saying there aren't many Russian draft dodgers. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you didn't know about this before. Russian emigration during the Russian invasion of Ukraine - Wikipedia As you probably know Ukraine has not drafted younger age men but does offer contracts for obvious humanitarian and hope for the future reasons. That policy has many critics but my feeling is that it's their decision to make. Yes, it's true that Ukraine has a much more severe problem with recruitment than Russia (who have resorted to paying North Korean slaves and prisoners including rapists, murderers, and cannibals themselves). You lot talk as if Russian "winning" is a foregone conclusion. No, it is not. There are ways that Ukraine can take the advantage as they have dramatically this month. Who's in charge of their drone program? Lots of nerds. Not your stereotypical soldier. It's way premature to write Ukraine off. The majority of Ukrainians now do want the war to end with a negotiation. But I can assure you that doesn't mean they are ready to accept having their sovereignty erased by the orcs. A reasonable deal is on the table if Putin wanted it but he doesn't. Largely current lines frozen without official acceptance of occupied lands as Russia. No limits on Ukrainian military. No dictating Ukrainian's NATO ambitions. Return of the stolen children. Security guarantees that are NATO-like with no Russian veto of actions in response to future Russian aggression. That's the broad outline. More than reasonable and Putin hasn't budged on ANY of them. Again, he does NOT want peace. He wants surrender and he wants Ukraine to be absorbed into Russia sooner or later. You might say he can win that with war. No he can't.

Kremlin propaganda

Putin does not want peace. Fair or otherwise. He wants surrender and to erase Ukraine as a sovereign nation.

Impossible to believe.

Straw man