rooster59 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Design adjustment will cause 10-month delay in the dual-track train project in Korat Adjustment of the design of the 4.8-km section of the dual-track train project between Klong Khananchit and Jira road junction covering a distance of 69 km in Nakhon Ratchasima will cause a 10-month delay in the project implementation. Post Today newspaper quoted an informed source in the State Railway of Thailand that the SRT would try to speed up the employment of a consultancy firm to do the re-designing within two months’ time before proceeding with conducting Environmental Impact Assessment study. The mobile cabinet at its meeting in Nakhon Ratchasima in early August decided to change the design of this section of the dual-track train project to be elevated instead of being fenced which will, according to the town’s residents, divide the town into two parts. Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/design-adjustment-will-cause-10-month-delay-dual-track-train-project-korat/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2017-09-03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Great start.....a 10 month delay before a sod is turned....expect a lot more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfd101 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 If it seriously improves the ultimate outcome - for users & local residents - then that's fine. If not, then not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inThailand Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 They realized a plan might be a good idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 That's the SRT track-doubling project, construction of this particular section (Jira Junction to Khon Kaen) was supposedly already under-way, it's certainly very late for this spanner to be thrown into the works ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterwhisper Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 1 hour ago, rooster59 said: the 4.8-km section of the dual-track train project between Klong Khananchit and Jira road junction covering a distance of 69 km What's that supposed to mean? Thai mathematics again? I also find the artist rendition of the train line very flattering, if not a little too enthusiastic: There are almost no cars on the road, no black smoke-belching trucks, no trash heaps littering the countryside, and all the houses in the village look neat and well maintained. And why are the two trains apparently speeding in the same direction? Is the purpose of a dual track not that two trains traveling in opposite directions can pass one another instead of racing each other? No wonder that project needs an extensive re-design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inThailand Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 33 minutes ago, Misterwhisper said: What's that supposed to mean? Thai mathematics again? I also find the artist rendition of the train line very flattering, if not a little too enthusiastic: There are almost no cars on the road, no black smoke-belching trucks, no trash heaps littering the countryside, and all the houses in the village look neat and well maintained. And why are the two trains apparently speeding in the same direction? Is the purpose of a dual track not that two trains traveling in opposite directions can pass one another instead of racing each other? No wonder that project needs an extensive re-design. Apparently there is a design flaw, the trains can only go in one direction and no u turns exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAIBKK Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 (edited) After the design is finished, they need to design the power supply. Currently on the drawing, they're missing something. No third rail or power lines. Ahh, I found it. Thailand 4.0 means; nuclear powered trains !!! They can easily buy copy the knowledge from uncle Kim. Edited September 3, 2017 by PAIBKK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 3 hours ago, rooster59 said: 10-month delay in the project implementation Even before the project starts it has a cost overrun - additional loan interest that has to be paid to China. China was wise not to partner with Thailand on the project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 3 hours ago, Misterwhisper said: What's that supposed to mean? Thai mathematics again? I also find the artist rendition of the train line very flattering, if not a little too enthusiastic: There are almost no cars on the road, no black smoke-belching trucks, no trash heaps littering the countryside, and all the houses in the village look neat and well maintained. And why are the two trains apparently speeding in the same direction? Is the purpose of a dual track not that two trains traveling in opposite directions can pass one another instead of racing each other? No wonder that project needs an extensive re-design. These are the new train units with control cabins at either end. Railway turntables had disappeared from use by the middle of the 20th century. Older style trains in Thailand relocate the engine for the return journey, and change the carriage numbers. They don't actually perform a U-turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 4 hours ago, ChrisY1 said: Great start.....a 10 month delay before a sod is turned....expect a lot more! Strangely enough, they might start work on the other 64 km while the design is happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Must be some design change to cause a 10 month delay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Triangle Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 7 hours ago, rooster59 said: The mobile cabinet at its meeting in Nakhon Ratchasima in early August decided to change the design of this section of the dual-track train project to be elevated instead of being fenced which will, according to the town’s residents, divide the town into two parts. And nobody wants to be born on the wrong side of the tracks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seajae Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 "And why are the two trains apparently speeding in the same direction? Is the purpose of a dual track not that two trains traveling in opposite directions can pass one another instead of racing each other? No wonder that project needs an extensive re-design. " Mate, you should know that here in Thailand whenever you get two vehicles beside each other be it buses, trucks, vans, bikes or cars they will race each other to prove how "manly" they are, why should trains be any different especially "fast" ones, at least being on separate lines they cant smash into each other but I am sure they would try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Triangle Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 7 minutes ago, seajae said: "And why are the two trains apparently speeding in the same direction? Is the purpose of a dual track not that two trains traveling in opposite directions can pass one another instead of racing each other? No wonder that project needs an extensive re-design. " Mate, you should know that here in Thailand whenever you get two vehicles beside each other be it buses, trucks, vans, bikes or cars they will race each other to prove how "manly" they are, why should trains be any different especially "fast" ones, at least being on separate lines they cant smash into each other but I am sure they would try See my post of a couple months back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEVUP Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 So what's the diff if they are keeping the same alignment, it's only a matter if it's in the air or not Not that hard since most of BKK has them in the air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave67 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 (edited) Working without a design alignment , nice one Edited September 5, 2017 by Dave67 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave67 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 On 03/09/2017 at 4:16 PM, BEVUP said: So what's the diff if they are keeping the same alignment, it's only a matter if it's in the air or not Not that hard since most of BKK has them in the air Some times different designs for Track, Civils , signaling, and OCS don't match. All survey for the project requires the same control points, so this looks like they were using different control points. So it's re-design time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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