Police confirm Yingluck fled as pressure mounts

[pornprong]

5 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

Even Thaksin admitted the circumstances regarding the abuse of power that led to his conviction. He never denied illegal signing of documents. There was an attempt to bribe the judges though.

What nonsense is this. Thaksin has repeatedly stated the charges against him were nothing but political. He never denied singing the documents because it was not illegal. You appear to know very little about the case.

 

5 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

Made up charges - please explain your comment; or apologies for trying to post something that isn't true.

Thaksin was not the Supervisor of the FIDF, Pridiyathorn Devakula was. In order to get the ridiculous conviction to stick they decided to say Thaksin was the defacto Supervisor. Not only did Pridiyathorn support Thaksin, he also stated that the FIDF, that he was in charge of suffered no loss from the sale of the land and saw no need for any charges to be laid against Thaksin. Who is Pridiyathorn, just so happens to be the man Prayuth put in charge of the economy after the coup - so he's hardly a red.

 

5 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

Corrupt Court - how so? If they were corrupt they'd have take the bribe. They didn't.

If you think the Thai courts aren't corrupt you are in an extremely small minority my friend.

[Baerboxer]

12 minutes ago, pornprong said:

What nonsense is this. Thaksin has repeatedly stated the charges against him were nothing but political. He never denied singing the documents because it was not illegal. You appear to know very little about the case.

 

Thaksin was not the Supervisor of the FIDF, Pridiyathorn Devakula was. In order to get the ridiculous conviction to stick they decided to say Thaksin was the defacto Supervisor. Not only did Pridiyathorn support Thaksin, he also stated that the FIDF, that he was in charge of suffered no loss from the sale of the land and saw no need for any charges to be laid against Thaksin. Who is Pridiyathorn, just so happens to be the man Prayuth put in charge of the economy after the coup - so he's hardly a red.

 

If you think the Thai courts aren't corrupt you are in an extremely small minority my friend.

 

Yes, he claims the charges were politically motivated. He doesn't deny it doing though! But that would be hard as they have the evidence he did. And yes, it was illegal.

 

It seems I know more about the case than you. Why are you ignoring the pastry box - inconvenient?

 

 

 

 

[scorecard]

56 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

This afternoon's "But Thaksin! But Thaksin!" post brought to you by...

 

Well there's a constructive comment...

[owl sees all]

8 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

Talking of lack of intelligence, you might learn how to punctuate.

I must say that the intelligencia on TVF is not really making these two new guys welcome.

 

Give me discussion rather than ranting all day long.

 

Not everyone has a spell checker or gramma app'.

[pornprong]

39 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

Drivel.

What a wonderfully erudite statement.

 

Quote

In the West, any PM who fiddled a land deal so his missus could by it cheap, way below market price, and the quickly sell it for a killing would be in trouble, very much so.

No crime in the land deal.

 

How, after all these years can you possibly still be repeating untruths. There was a blind auction and Thaksin's wife had the highest bid at 772 million baht which is significantly higher than the Land Departments appraised value of 700 million and slightly higher than the value the other two bidders who valued the land at the low 700 million baht range. The nonsense that the land was below market price is based on the sale of the same parcel of land in 1995 for 2.14 billion baht to the FIDF. 

 

How did the land go from 2.14 billion baht in 1995 to 700 million baht in 2002 is not the question.

The question is how did land acquired at 102 million get sold to a government agency for 2.14 billion in 1995?

The intentionally overpriced purchase occurred during a property market boom and went through as a mechanism to effectively bail out Erawan, which was facing liquidity issues. Perhaps you should spend a minute to investigate the properness of this deal rather than trying to blame Thaksin.

 

What was that you wrote earlier about apologising for writing lies?

Edited September 5, 2017 by pornprong

[pornprong]

4 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

Yes, he claims the charges were politically motivated. He doesn't deny it doing though! But that would be hard as they have the evidence he did. And yes, it was illegal.

It seems I know more about the case than you. Why are you ignoring the pastry box - inconvenient?

Because it wasn't a crime!

 

Here's how ridiculous it is.

 

For it to be a crime, it would have to be established that the independent Bank of Thailand is not actually independent and is under the control of the government - something which the Governor of the independent bank at the time refuted (remember - Pridiyathorn is a man who Prayuth put in is own cabinet as DPM and Finance Minister).

 

Pridiyathorn was not under Thaksin's supervision, there is no case!

 

As far as I'm aware the pastry box incidence is one man's word against another. There is zero evidence of it ever occurring other than the claims of one man made during a highly politicised period. This of course didn't stop the corrupted Thai courts from convicting the accused - hardly a shining example of justice, conviction on heresay.

 

I would never convict anyone based solely on one man's version of events with absolutely zero supporting evidence. 

 

Strip away the facade of opposing super-villain Thaksin and all that is left is a garden variety fascist.

 

[Srikcir]

9 hours ago, FreddieRoyle said:

anybody know how long the statute of limitations for "negligence"? I'll be she will be back propping up the Emporium stalls in a couple of years when this has all been forgotten.

SoL doesn't apply after conviction.

Yingluck was convicted by the lower courts.

[tomta]

7 hours ago, JingerBen said:

 

For sure.

Abhisit, in spite of his occasional blundering is head and shoulders above most of the others.

Is it his good lucks or his Eton and Oxford polish cos I can't see anything else about him.

[lvr181]

13 hours ago, ezzra said:

Duh... stating the obvious, everybody in the country and beyond know

by now that she's on the lam, can anyone stop others from doing the same?

not really, will this be soon forgotten as many other burning issues in this 

country? you bet ya... will anyone learn anything from this situation?

not likely....

"not likely" = NO!

[KIWIBATCH]

Wherever Ms Yinluck is....I will stick my neck out and suggest......that she is quietly biding her time...watching and reading the daily Government/RTP/Immigration/Airports circus digging themselves very deep holes in denying any involvement in her disappearance...and then at an opportune time...she will come out guns blazing via FB or whatever media is available and explain exactly how she "disappeared"....one way or the other......(with the help of..?..or without the help of...?...)

 

All it will take is for an enterprising keen international news agency to interview her and ask the pertinent questions...or Ms Yingluck herself will (as above) reveal all via social media... 

[onthesoi]

5 minutes ago, KIWIBATCH said:

Wherever Ms Yinluck is....I will stick my neck out and suggest......that she is quietly biding her time...watching and reading the daily Government/RTP/Immigration/Airports circus digging themselves very deep holes in denying any involvement in her disappearance...and then at an opportune time...she will come out guns blazing via FB or whatever media is available and explain exactly how she "disappeared"....one way or the other......(with the help of..?..or without the help of...?...)

 

All it will take is for an enterprising keen international news agency to interview her and ask the pertinent questions...or Ms Yingluck herself will (as above) reveal all via social media... 

 

Its more likely she has gone silent due to the recent, catastropic, loss of face suffered after all her posturing in the media .... or "shame face" as its known in Thailand.

Edited September 5, 2017 by onthesoi