Must Read If threatened, U.S. will 'totally destroy' North Korea, Trump vows

[baboon]

Just now, transam said:

So you have insider military info.....?

 

Strange how my countries armed forces train all over the world for knowledge to try and deal with any eventuality, strange that....

Team Spirit is a simulated invasion of the neighbouring state. One can hardly blame them for getting just a teeny bit upset about that.

[mikebike]

14 minutes ago, hyku1147 said:

Kim is the latest dictator, his brother, then father preceded him. All of them purged anyone who  opposed their right to absolute power. His father also  punished their families.

Are you attempting to claim that Un does not speak to or consult anyone else in his country? There are plenty of educated sycophants in NK willing to kiss the Un-butt and support his twisted regime; same as any other country...

[mikebike]

13 minutes ago, transam said:

So why didn't the USA use a nuke on NK and/or Vietnam all those years back...?

Truman/MacArthur maybe?

[mikebike]

14 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

You are aware the international community had been going after NK for decades.  The entire UN Security council approved sanctions.  Yet, you single out the US.  We are part of a global community after all.

YOU asked who... only one answer... Not even SK has felt it necessary to bombastically threaten a country who is clearly barely capable of wiping their own assets... (can't say the other word!!).

 

Sanctions, diplomacy, negotiation - all good. Those strategies have kept the peace in the region for over half a century. Along comes 45 and whoa... gotta stir that pot - how can he go wrong bullying a nation which no one cares for; a "rogue nation"; great distraction.

[craigt3365]

24 minutes ago, mikebike said:

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts...

 

Japan is considering increasing its military due to 45's rhetoric escalating a situation which was a non-starter before he opened his twitter machine.

Stop. Japan is considering increasing it's military due to missiles flying over their sovereign territory!!!!  Easy to research that.

 

North Korea has been destabilizing this area long before Trump came along.  Can't blame everything on him.

[craigt3365]

20 minutes ago, baboon said:

Team Spirit is a simulated invasion of the neighbouring state. One can hardly blame them for getting just a teeny bit upset about that.

Right. And a video like this wouldn't upset any country.

 

[craigt3365]

Just now, hyku1147 said:

 

He's clearly lost the plot and is just trolling.

[baboon]

3 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

Right. And a video like this wouldn't upset any country.

 

But Team Spirit is a simulated invasion of the neighbouring state. 

[mikebike]

5 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

Stop. Japan is considering increasing it's military due to missiles flying over their sovereign territory!!!!  Easy to research that.

 

North Korea has been destabilizing this area long before Trump came along.  Can't blame everything on him.

Dude, get a grip. WHY are NK missiles flying over Japan now and not for the last 50-ish years... Hint: what has changed? Easy to research that!!

 

HK has been boxed into its own little playground, only fracking up its own people until 45 grabbed the wooden spoon.

[mikebike]

12 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

Right. And a video like this wouldn't upset any country.

 

Probs about as much as having the greatest military force the world has ever seen playing war games outside you bedroom.

[Morch]

3 hours ago, baboon said:

So countries in that region should not be allowed to arm themselves as they see fit?

 

NPT.

Plus confusing North Korea with Kim, again.

[Morch]

3 hours ago, mikebike said:

Article read. Read BEFORE commenting.

 

in·va·sion  inˈvāZHən/  noun - an incursion by a large number of people or things into a place or sphere of activity. The definition of invasion that I understand is not "when something unwanted enters your space."

 

I am defending their sovereign right to defend themselves and to be <deleted> actors on the world stage - same as I would defend the USA's right to behave in the same manor, as they have.

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You are defending Kim's "right" to defend himself.

[Morch]

2 hours ago, baboon said:

Team Spirit is a simulated invasion of the neighbouring state. One can hardly blame them for getting just a teeny bit upset about that.

 

Doubt all of North Korea's military simulations and drills are of a defensive nature. And, of course, that forest of artillery barrels trained on Seoul isn't defensive. Same goes for all them attacks carried out over the years.    

[baboon]

5 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

NPT.

Plus confusing North Korea with Kim, again.

So countries in that region should not be allowed to arm themselves as they see fit?

[baboon]

2 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Doubt all of North Korea's military simulations and drills are of a defensive nature. And, of course, that forest of artillery barrels trained on Seoul isn't defensive. Same goes for all them attacks carried out over the years.    

Team Spirit is a simulated invasion of the neighbouring state. One can hardly blame them for getting just a teeny bit upset about that.

[Morch]

3 hours ago, mikebike said:

Yes, Kim acts in a vacuum without any advisors... "THEY" clearly refers to the governing elite, which NK does have, like every other country in the world.

 

No, it's not the same as "every other country". Most countries have a system in place, whereby a leader can't do whatever he likes - such as executing uncles in bizarre ways.  And regardless that "they" meant NK as a whole, even if it was to specify Kim's inner circle - still wouldn't change anything. Whether it's Kim solo, or Kim and a bunch of cronies - it's not about North Korea. It's about Kim's political survival. Nothing else.

[Morch]

1 minute ago, baboon said:

Team Spirit is a simulated invasion of the neighbouring state. One can hardly blame them for getting just a teeny bit upset about that.

 

Repeating nonsense doesn't make it true or relevant.

 

[baboon]

1 minute ago, Morch said:

 

Repeating nonsense doesn't make it true or relevant.

 

Agreed.

[Scott]

Troll post removed.  

[Credo]

3 hours ago, transam said:

So why didn't the USA use a nuke on NK and/or Vietnam all those years back...?

The US is not likely to use nuclear weapons unless there is a large scale and escalating war.   There are way more effective conventional weapons for taking out military targets than nuclear weapons.   Using nuclear weapons is a little like shooting your neighbor with an cannon rather than a gun.   It's overkill.   Kim, however, seems to think in those terms.   

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

31 minutes ago, Credo said:

  Using nuclear weapons is a little like shooting your neighbor with an cannon rather than a gun.   It's overkill.   Kim, however, seems to think in those terms.   

 

I'm assuming you're alluding to the news reports that Kim supposedly had some of his cohorts who fell into disfavor be executed by cannon/artillery fire. A rather unique North Korean take on executions.

 

[amvet]

9 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

I'm assuming you're alluding to the news reports that Kim supposedly had some of his cohorts who fell into disfavor be executed by cannon/artillery fire. A rather unique North Korean take on executions.

 

I would imagine he got the idea reading British history.  Arguably, the nation most well known to have implemented this type of execution was the British Empire, in its role as paramount power in India, and in particular as a punishment for native soldiers found guilty of mutiny.   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowing_from_a_gun

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV_6LTyTNFw

 

Edited September 22, 2017 by amvet

[Credo]

5 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

I'm assuming you're alluding to the news reports that Kim supposedly had some of his cohorts who fell into disfavor be executed by cannon/artillery fire. A rather unique North Korean take on executions.

 

Yes, and it's a rather silly waste of a good missile if you think you are going to war.

 

[Credo]

Trump would be much wiser to tone down the rhetoric.   Asian's are particularly sensitive to a loss of face and it would be truly tragic to have a war start over something as silly as name calling.