ALFREDO Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 1 hour ago, MarkusAUST said: I don't believe you will be allowed entry to Laos when you have had an overstay in Thailand. I have had some short time overstays, when I found it more convenient to use that possibility (1 - some days) and never had on any border any problem with these stamps in Passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritTim Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 10 minutes ago, Happy enough said: if she still doesn't return it, see your local police and explain to them with some money Unless you are paying the local police a healthy sum, this is very high risk. They will be listening to both sides, and the ex is speaking to them in Thai. I could well imagine the OP getting his passport back in the IDC. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon789561 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Just now, BritTim said: Unless you are paying the local police a healthy sum, this is very high risk. They will be listening to both sides, and the ex is speaking to them in Thai. I could well imagine the OP getting his passport back in the IDC. perhaps the OP speaks Thai. He would need to pay a half decent amount but the Police also will probably know that he is entitled to his passport and tell her to return it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgarbo Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 6 hours ago, justaphase said: I was going to go and clear my overstay (since July 14) this Sunday 1st but my ex has taken it and is demanding 'salary' for looking after my kids. She's left them with me which is an impossible hassle for work coming this Monday as i dont have anyone to take them. Anyway, the visa first, then passport, then kids. This is crazy, she doesnt send them to school, they're 4 and 6 and just plays her phone all day and night 'looking after' them. I'm here 15 years and this is crushing me. Fifteen years & you've learned nothing, except from here it gets worse. Advice: Screw anyone for the night. Choose very carefully the one you live with. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrendsd Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 (edited) This happened to a friend of mine a while ago, his GF took his PP, he went to the Police who were at his GF place within 30 minutes, suffice to say he got it back. the Police didn't ask for any money However he was not on a overstay, this obviously complicates things Edited September 30, 2017 by darrendsd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bundooman Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 5 hours ago, BritTim said: You know, almost invariably whenever an overstay situation by someone with limited funds comes up, there are some on this board that suggest abandoning their family here in Thailand to return to home country. I do not agree with them, but avoiding getting blacklisted from Thailand does seem an important objective right now, even if that does mean neglecting his kids for a couple of days. Really? a. He hasn't got his passport. b. He thinks he is going to Immigration on a Sunday? c. He thinks he is going to school on Monday? I thought that the school term finished yesterday...... d. "In a big school in Bangkok its easy to work if whatever". What does that mean? If he's going to Laos, (without his passport), How is he going to school on Monday? Strange, eh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritTim Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, Bundooman said: Really? a. He hasn't got his passport. b. He thinks he is going to Immigration on a Sunday? c. He thinks he is going to school on Monday? I thought that the school term finished yesterday...... d. "In a big school in Bangkok its easy to work if whatever". What does that mean? If he's going to Laos, (without his passport), How is he going to school on Monday? Strange, eh? a. Doing anything presupposes he can get his passport back somehow before Sunday b. My reading of his intentions is that he intends a border bounce at Nong Khai to get a visa exempt entry. Doing so while clearing a long overstay seems pretty dubious, but not out of the question c. I assume by 'school' he means a language school which might even be busier than usual during public school holidays. d. See a. and b. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Getting the Police involved 'could' pose risk if his GF communicates with them that he is on overstay. That my be a risk he has to take by going to the Police Station reporting the theft of his passport and having a Policeman escort him to his girlfriends home to retrieve the passport. At the moment the OP is on a very weak footing. IMO the best solution would be to ensure the OP places himself in the dominant position. Report the 'Loss' to the Police, Obtain an Emergency Travel Document from his Embassy and travel home paying his overstay at the Airport. Obtain a new Passport in his home country and a Visa. Upon his return to Thailand report the passport 'Theft' to the Police and ensure charges are filed. This of course is costly - The simplest solution is to bite the bullet, pay his Ex GF get his Passport back and Clear his overstay. Then he can work on securing more 'reliable' care for his children, who it would seem are not in any imminent danger, they are simply lacking guidance and responsible primary care. At the same time the OP would do well to document and record everything which could play in his favor in any future custody battle (if the kids are legally his i.e. he is listed as the father on their Birth Certificate). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon789561 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 (edited) 19 minutes ago, darrendsd said: This happened to a friend of mine a while ago, his GF took his PP, he went to the Police who were at his GF place within 30 minutes, suffice to say he got it back. the Police didn't ask for any money However he was not on a overstay, this obviously complicates things I personally don't think the police would look any further into it other than he has had his passport taken and he is entitled to it. I reckon they'd just tell her to give it back. but anyway. sticky situation. wrong girl to have kids with and silly to get yourself in the overstay situation and try to sort it last minute like this. good luck with that OP tell the police she stole it 3 months ago 5555 Edited September 30, 2017 by Happy enough add sentence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aditi Sharma Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 8 hours ago, justaphase said: I was going to go and clear my overstay (since July 14) this Sunday 1st but my ex has taken it and is demanding 'salary' for looking after my kids. She's left them with me which is an impossible hassle for work coming this Monday as i dont have anyone to take them. Anyway, the visa first, then passport, then kids. This is crazy, she doesnt send them to school, they're 4 and 6 and just plays her phone all day and night 'looking after' them. I'm here 15 years and this is crushing me. Use some charm offensive, some false tears maybe, consider the woman to be acting up like just another kid, prove that u r no less of an actor urself, walk out later if u must. Goodluck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Some off topic inflammatory posts have been removed. A repeat of them will result in formal warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 25 minutes ago, ubonjoe said: Some off topic inflammatory posts have been removed. A repeat of them will result in formal warning. And now another one. No notice will be made of any further removed posts. The OP is asking for help not to be harangued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aditi Sharma Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 (edited) Can you leave the kids with somebody for a small consideration while you sort the visa situation? Can you leave them at a day care centre if there are any? Or if you want to think about it for a couple of days can you take them with you to your workplace and make them sit in a safe corner?Send the pix to your wife begging to relent?Possible? Edited September 30, 2017 by Aditi Sharma add words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puipuitom Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Always, Always and Always have some scans available: printed, and on Hotmail & Gmail. Always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 13 hours ago, BritTim said: You know, almost invariably whenever an overstay situation by someone with limited funds comes up, there are some on this board that suggest abandoning their family here in Thailand to return to home country. I do not agree with them, but avoiding getting blacklisted from Thailand does seem an important objective right now, even if that does mean neglecting his kids for a couple of days. Neglecting a 4 and 6 year old, are you for real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissie Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 OP has lived in Thailand for 15 years. Let's all hope and pray that he hasn't worked without WP for 15 years. If yes, the Overstay-issue will not be his main-worry as far as his future in Thailand is concerned. Especially not, if the lady knows that him working without WP is illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon789561 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 (edited) he clearly needs to talk her around but she sounds like a bit of a nightmare so perhaps easier said than done. anyway, hopefully he sorts it out somehow. a sticky situation indeed Edited September 30, 2017 by Happy enough grammar police avoidance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justaphase Posted September 30, 2017 Author Share Posted September 30, 2017 She stole the passport on Friday night. Ii dont have the funds to pay her the 12000 baht and spend 30,000 on a visa trip. I said i can pay her 4000 a week but in weekly amounts. She obviously has some agenda that requires her to pay, maybe her boyfriend in town needs rent. I'm just here with the kids and have 10 days before the 90 days is up. Can i get an emergency travel document and go out, pay the overstay, come back in on the document get a new passport? I'm not working now, just online and some corporate work for private business individuals so the looking after myself and the kids bit is ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 26 minutes ago, justaphase said: Can i get an emergency travel document and go out, pay the overstay, come back in on the document get a new passport? It depends upon what your home countries rules are for issuing a emergency travel document. Some only issue them for one trip to your home country and others issue one the is equal to a passport valid for a year. If they issue one valid for travel to Laos you could pay the overstay fine on departure from the country and get a visa in it. To apply for it you will need a police report for a lost/stolen passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somewhereinengland Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Cost you £100 for a UK emergency passport, I think its valid for up to 5 countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justaphase Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 (edited) Thanks fellas, so i can get a visa put in the document, then come back here and transfer it into a new (or the stolen) passport? How will nong khai know how many days over i am? Takes just a day to apply i see. Can you foresee any difficulties? Ever heard of this done here before? Edited October 1, 2017 by justaphase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearciderman Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Just now, justaphase said: Thanks fellas, so i can get a visa put in the document, then come back here and transfer it into a new (or the stolen) passport? Takes just a day to apply i see. <sigh> I reckon once you get an ETD, your old passport will be cancelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justaphase Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 Yes, that would make sense pearciderman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 6 minutes ago, justaphase said: Thanks fellas, so i can get a visa put in the document, then come back here and transfer it into a new (or the stolen) passport? How will nong khai know how many days over i am? Takes just a day to apply i see. Can you foresee any difficulties? Ever heard of this done here before? You have not told us what country are your from. Or are you from the UK. Immigration will check their records to check what your permit to stay is and then fine you based upon that date. Yes it has been done before. Your passport will be canceled when you submit the lost/stolen passport report prior to applying for the ETD. Info is here: https://www.gov.uk/emergency-travel-document/how-to-apply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justaphase Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 I'm from the UK yes. I sent a message to the passport holder saying i will pay 7000b now and 5000b on the 10th in reply to her demands for 12,000b. Hopefully the lure of instant cash might work...if its enough. Last month her 12,000 was gone in 3 days ((more savage demands..) so I think she must have something she has to pay in a lump every month, debt or room rent. Crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, justaphase said: I sent a message to the passport holder saying i will pay 7000b now Considering the ETD will cost you around 4500 baht plus the cost of a new passport that seems to be the best option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justaphase Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 1 minute ago, ubonjoe said: Considering the ETD will cost you around 4500 baht plus the cost of a new passport that seems to be the best option. Plus she will 'look after' the kids while I go and do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justaphase Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 The reply was just abuse and demands for the 12000 now. I might just move for a start so she doesn't know where i live, then go and report my lost passport. Every confrontation with her fills me with hatred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon789561 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 18 minutes ago, justaphase said: The reply was just abuse and demands for the 12000 now. I might just move for a start so she doesn't know where i live, then go and report my lost passport. Every confrontation with her fills me with hatred. sorry to hear of your predicament, sounds shit. hope you can sort it out somehow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon789561 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 21 minutes ago, justaphase said: The reply was just abuse and demands for the 12000 now. I might just move for a start so she doesn't know where i live, then go and report my lost passport. Every confrontation with her fills me with hatred. probably a long shot but is there anyone that will listen to her and act as a go between to talk her into letting you have the passport back and convince her in the long term it will be better otherwise she won't end up getting anything from you. a relative or friend of hers. talking her round somehow would make your life a lot easier but maybe it's going to take someone else that knows you both to get her to see sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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