webfact Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Boy Scouts of America to allow girls to join, earn Eagle Scout rank By Gina Cherelus and Bernie Woodall An Eagle Scout patch is pictured in Orlando, Florida in this May 30, 2012 file photograph. REUTERS/David Manning/Files (Reuters) - In a historic shift, the Boy Scouts of America will let girls enroll in Cub Scouts starting next year and allow them to eventually earn the highest rank of Eagle Scout, the organization said on Wednesday. The unanimous decision by the 100-year-old group's board of directors came after years of requests from families and girls, it said, though the announcement prompted a largely negative reaction on social media. "We believe it is critical to evolve how our programs meet the needs of families interested in positive and lifelong experiences for their children," Boy Scouts Chief Executive Michael Surbaugh said in a statement. The Boy Scouts of America (BSA) has lost about a third of its members since 2000, which now stands at 2.3 million. BSA insisted that allowing girls was in response to the needs of families, not related to declining membership. The Girl Scouts of the USA said girls thrive in a girl-only environment, and that "we are girl experts." Starting in 2018, the Boy Scouts will allow girls to join the 7- to 10-year-old Cub Scouts. Small, community-level "dens" will be single-gender. Larger "packs," which are comprised of dens, will decide whether to include dens of each gender or not, the BSA said. In a program to be announced next year and projected to start in 2019, girls will follow the same curriculum as the Boy Scouts, which are for ages 11-17. Surbaugh in a tweet said, "Today, the BSA opens a new chapter in our history w/a unanimous vote to welcome girls to Cub through Eagle Rank." After the announcement, the Girl Scouts issued a statement that did not mention the Boy Scouts or its move to include girls. "Girl Scouts remains committed to and believes strongly in the importance of the all-girl, girl-led and girl-friendly environment that Girl Scouts provides, which creates a necessary safe space for girls to learn and thrive," the organization said. In August, a top Girl Scout official accused the Boy Scouts of running a "covert campaign" to recruit girls to increase its declining membership, the Washington Post reported. The program for girls older than Cub Scouts projected to begin in 2019 will allow them to earn the Eagle Scout rank, the highest achievement in the organization. On social media, hundreds of people were critical of the news, with many posts echoing the sentiments of Donald Trump Jr., the president's son. "Strange, I thought that's what the Girl Scouts was for???" he said on Twitter. Sing Oldham, spokesman for the Southern Baptist Convention, said the announcement continued a "reinvention" of the Boy Scouts his group does not support, including the decision in 2013 to allow openly gay members. In January, the Boy Scouts also opted to allow transgender boys to join. (Reporting by Gina Cherelus in New York and Bernie Woodall in Fort Lauderdale, Florida; editing by Colleen Jenkins and David Gregorio) -- © Copyright Reuters 2017-10-12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconut Kidd Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 There goes the neighborhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Well, it certainly puts the whole issue of gays in Scouts into perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert bloggs Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 So ,girls can join the boy scouts ,but boys cant join the girl scouts because they need an all girl 'safe space" ? "those whom the gods wish to destroy ,they first send mad" gets more and more true every day in the west . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceruhe Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Never been a scout, dunno whats scouts do in the first place but.... Job well done. Keep destroying everything "all male" until there is nothing left. Call me an <deleted> all you want, all I'm going to do now is keeping my ears open to see how long the first sexual assault claim takes to roll in and at that I'm not even going to differentiate between a real and false case either, any case will do. 11 minutes ago, bert bloggs said: So ,girls can join the boy scouts ,but boys cant join the girl scouts because they need an all girl 'safe space" ? It's called equality nowadays, I can't explain it to you coherently with logic, because it falls apart whenever you string the first sentence togehter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, webfact said: "Girl Scouts remains committed to and believes strongly in the importance of the all-girl, girl-led and girl-friendly environment that Girl Scouts provides, which creates a necessary safe space for girls to learn and thrive," the organization said. With all this politically correct, double-speak, sensitivity-avoiding flim-flam about gender identity in kids, the history of shirt-lifting in the male-oriented facet of the scouting and guiding fraternity and the sad truth behind such idiotic justifications like, "We believe it is critical to evolve how our programs meet the needs of families interested in positive and lifelong experiences for their children," I take from this the following. Girls who want to be boys can now join the boy scouts. Boys who want to be girls cannot join the girl scouts. Girls who want to be boys with other girls will have all the protections of the, "necessary safe space for girls to learn and thrive." Edited October 12, 2017 by NanLaew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGImInPattaya Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 This is like the biggest nothing-burger of news. The Boy Scouts is so like 1950s and is a dying and discredited institution like so many in America. What with gay Scout leaders diddling boys and now girls and next transgenders being allowed to join (or are they already in being that they are biological males?) most real Americans have already withdrawn their children from the organization. The Scouts, if it is to regain any sense or relevancy, needs a big Trump-flush ala the NFL. Then people might trust it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 I have never heard of Girl Scouts in Canada, only Girl Guides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Wow, I wish we'd had girls when I was in the scouts (as it were). Camps would have been great; show us your woggle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pdaz Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 There could be an upside.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwest5829 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 7 hours ago, OMGImInPattaya said: This is like the biggest nothing-burger of news. The Boy Scouts is so like 1950s and is a dying and discredited institution like so many in America. What with gay Scout leaders diddling boys and now girls and next transgenders being allowed to join (or are they already in being that they are biological males?) most real Americans have already withdrawn their children from the organization. The Scouts, if it is to regain any sense or relevancy, needs a big Trump-flush ala the NFL. Then people might trust it again. Thank you for your ethnocentric input. My view is somewhat different, having gone from Bobcat to Eagle Scout and having served as the International Representative of my Scout Council in Western Kentucky. I conducted several international Scout Exchanges. Horrors! Worldwide Scout Movement includes both male and female members. We come by our Puritan, stifled outlook honestly through our history but ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatOilWorker Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 5 hours ago, Pdaz said: There could be an upside.... She can most definitely light a fire without a match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 So what happened to brownies and girl guides? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Girls can still join Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts, but boys can only join Boy Scouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 So I guess they are not the boy Scouts anymore, just simply the Scouts . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Can boys join the girl scouts (Brownies as I remember them) and wear little frocks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiangMaiLightning2143 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 The Girl Scouts of America is open to any who identifies as a girl.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatOilWorker Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 4 hours ago, sirineou said: So I guess they are not the boy Scouts anymore, just simply the Scouts . It is like the "BIG C mini" stores in Thailand should be called "Just C" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert bloggs Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 3 hours ago, ChiangMaiLightning2143 said: The Girl Scouts of America is open to any who identifies as a girl. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk So if you gender fluid (non binery) do you get two uniforms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George FmplesdaCosteedback Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 On 12/10/2017 at 10:30 AM, Ceruhe said: Never been a scout, dunno whats scouts do in the first place but.... Job well done. Keep destroying everything "all male" until there is nothing left. Call me an <deleted> all you want, all I'm going to do now is keeping my ears open to see how long the first sexual assault claim takes to roll in and at that I'm not even going to differentiate between a real and false case either, any case will do. It's called equality nowadays, I can't explain it to you coherently with logic, because it falls apart whenever you string the first sentence togehter. Equality no, equivalency yes. Some sex segregation is necessary. Feminists seem to have lost that ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrwebb8825 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Why don't you ever see these (can't think of a pc term for 'bimbos who shove biased gender equality down everyone's throat') fighting for their bar stool at the VFW, Moose Lodge or Elks Club? Not high profile enough I guess. Glad I did my scouting days many, many years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrwebb8825 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I'd love to see them try and force their way into the Free Mason's membership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 1 hour ago, mrwebb8825 said: I'd love to see them try and force their way into the Free Mason's membership. The Freemasons should be so lucky. Lodges close as professionals shun Masons HUNDREDS of Britain's masonic lodges are under threat of closure because of a drastic decline in membership. Freemasonry, once seen as a prerequisite for business success or enhanced social status, is now being shunned by a new breed of professional which regards the order as eccentric and irrelevant. The society, known for its secrecy and unusual initiation rituals, is currently losing up to 6,000 members a year. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1347559/Lodges-close-as-professionals-shun-Masons.html Masons, other service groups fight membership declines In an effort to boost flagging membership across the USA, an increasing number of Masonic lodges, like other fraternal service groups, are abandoning secretive ways and inviting the public in to see what the organization is really all about. There are fewer Masons today — by nearly a million — than there were in 1941 as the country came out of the Great Depression, says Richard Fletcher, executive secretary of the Masonic Service Association of North America. There are an estimated 3 million members worldwide and 1.5 million in the USA, he says, compared with more than 4 million members in the USA in 1959. https://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2011-01-31-masons31_ST_N.htm Here are some grim statistics for the USA: http://www.msana.com/msastats.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFriend You Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 There will be pregnant Girl Scouts after the first "Jamboree" we used to swim across the lake to get a glimpse of the girl scouts undressing - now they will share camps together ??? They have taken all the fun out of being a Boy Scout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lust Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 I can’t wait for WWIII... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George FmplesdaCosteedback Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 On 14/10/2017 at 5:12 PM, ilostmypassword said: The Freemasons should be so lucky. Lodges close as professionals shun Masons HUNDREDS of Britain's masonic lodges are under threat of closure because of a drastic decline in membership. Freemasonry, once seen as a prerequisite for business success or enhanced social status, is now being shunned by a new breed of professional which regards the order as eccentric and irrelevant. The society, known for its secrecy and unusual initiation rituals, is currently losing up to 6,000 members a year. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1347559/Lodges-close-as-professionals-shun-Masons.html Masons, other service groups fight membership declines In an effort to boost flagging membership across the USA, an increasing number of Masonic lodges, like other fraternal service groups, are abandoning secretive ways and inviting the public in to see what the organization is really all about. There are fewer Masons today — by nearly a million — than there were in 1941 as the country came out of the Great Depression, says Richard Fletcher, executive secretary of the Masonic Service Association of North America. There are an estimated 3 million members worldwide and 1.5 million in the USA, he says, compared with more than 4 million members in the USA in 1959. https://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2011-01-31-masons31_ST_N.htm Here are some grim statistics for the USA: http://www.msana.com/msastats.asp And men join the Women's Institute... Masons are all on the golf field now swinging their bats. What about all the new genders now recognised. MGBGT lot will be demanding Gooly gooly whatsom, ging gang goo rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 It would appear that the Times, They Are a'Changin, but I think we should stick to the Scouts on this thread, although the link is interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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