Frenchman arrested over posting nude photos of ex-Thai girlfriend

[sanemax]

13 minutes ago, Chip Allen said:

Governments of truly civilized countries need to start forcibly repatriating their citizens, when they run afoul of unjust "laws" such as defamation, lese majeste...etc. A gun in the face always gets results. Thuggery deserves thug tactics as retribution.

It also probably illegal in France to hack someones computer and to upload naked photos of them as well

[sanemax]

18 minutes ago, Chip Allen said:

The sickest interpretation of "law" that it is possible to conceive of. Not unlike the reasoning of Communist China.

The internet is a world wide conception , it has no borders .

[Chip Allen]

2 minutes ago, sanemax said:

The internet is a world wide conception , it has no borders .

Thailand's government has no right to prosecute foreigners for "computer crimes". This is a perfectly insane perversion of legal and political power. It is impossible to commit a "crime" online unless it involves fraud or violence.

[sanemax]

2 minutes ago, Chip Allen said:

Thailand's government has no right to prosecute foreigners for "computer crimes". This is a perfectly insane perversion of legal and political power. It is impossible to commit a "crime" online unless it involves fraud or violence.

Thailand's Government has the right to prosecute anyone in Thailand, wherever they come from

I am sure that this law applies to Western Counties as well , otherwise French people could go across the border to Belgium , post illegal photos, then go back to France again

[Chip Allen]

Crap logic that would place any citizen of western countries in danger if they violated Lese Majeste laws by expressing an opinion. There is NO defense of this kind of thinking, regardless of how you may personally feel. It is immoral and deserves the harshest response from responsible governments worldwide.

[SheungWan]

9 minutes ago, Chip Allen said:

Thailand's government has no right to prosecute foreigners for "computer crimes". This is a perfectly insane perversion of legal and political power. It is impossible to commit a "crime" online unless it involves fraud or violence.

Well if all else fails play the pedantic card for the defence. Particularly if no legal conception whatsoever.

[sanemax]

1 minute ago, Chip Allen said:

Crap logic that would place any citizen of western countries in danger if they violated Lese Majeste laws by expressing an opinion. There is NO defense of this kind of thinking, regardless of how you may personally feel. It is immoral and deserves the harshest response from responsible governments worldwide.

We are not talking about LM laws though , and TBH, its really best that we dont

It isnt the subject of the OP and its not a topic up for discussion

[Bluespunk]

3 hours ago, watcharacters said:

 

 

I wonder how many of the posters who are convinced of the "guilt" of the alledged  perp left their home country to enjoy being in a country which is  not a NANNY state?

Good grief, being against scum posting naked pictures of people against their will is PC now...

[Bluespunk]

2 hours ago, Chip Allen said:

Thailand is awash in every kind of obscene image and situation and the cops need to hunt down some turd for posting naked pics of his ex-girlfriend. Priorities of the police are puzzling and racist.

For the woman concerned the priority of punishing this scumbag are very clear. 

[Chip Allen]

10 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Thailand's Government has the right to prosecute anyone in Thailand, wherever they come from

I am sure that this law applies to Western Counties as well , otherwise French people could go across the border to Belgium , post illegal photos, then go back to France again

This law does NOT apply to western countries. I cannot imagine a scenario where mere WORDS uttered on the internet resulted in the arrest of a foreigner who visited Europe or America. It is sheer insanity. You would have to actually threaten violence or commit fraud to run afoul of western law. It is the worldwide standard for legal sanity.

[Bluespunk]

2 hours ago, dictater said:

 

Akin to saying a woman deserves to be raped because of what she is wearing.  Utter nonsense

 

As Prayut once did. Everyone seems very pleased to bash this Frenchmen without any regards to his rights. Where did he commit this 'crime' was it within the borders of LOS where everything is so good and decent or did he do it in France in which case how can they arrst. Also, where does it say he took these photos without her knowledge???

It says so in the op. 

[Chip Allen]

"Nanny states" .....Toryspeak for any country which protects its citizens against poverty and violence. Conservative thinking always demonizes the idea that citizens should be entitled to fair treatment.

[sanemax]

Just now, Chip Allen said:

This law does NOT apply to western countries. I cannot imagine a scenario where mere WORDS uttered on the internet resulted in the arrest of a foreigner who visited Europe or America. It is sheer insanity. You would have to actually threaten violence or commit fraud to run afoul of western law. It is the worldwide standard for legal sanity.

We are not talking about mere words though , stick to the OP story

[sanemax]

6 minutes ago, Chip Allen said:

This law does NOT apply to western countries. 

Tort, privacy, copyright, and criminal laws offer remedies against people who submit revenge porn.^[65][66] Slightly more than half of all U.S. states have laws expressly applicable to revenge porn: Alabama,^[67] Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California,^[14] Colorado, Connecticut,^[68]Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois,^[69] Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Michigan,^[70][71] Minnesota,^[72] Nevada, New Hampshire,^[73] New Jersey,^[14] New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma,^[74] Oregon, Pennsylvania, Texas, Utah, Vermont, West Virginia,^[75] Virginia, Washington and Wisconsin.^[76] For example, New Jersey law prohibits both the capture and the distribution of sexually explicit photographs and films by any person, "knowing that he is not licensed or privileged to do so" and without the subjects' consent.^[77] The law was used to prosecute Dharun Ravi, the Rutgers student who distributed webcam footage of his roommate Tyler Clementi engaging in sexual activity, after which Clementi killed himself.^[78] The law has also been used to prosecute several men who allegedly distributed revenge porn of their ex-girlfriends.^[7

[AGareth2]

how do we know that the Frenchman posted the pics on her Facebook account

has he confessed?

[Ron19]

A post taking part of another members post out of context without quoting the original poster has been removed

 

 

[Chip Allen]

Ostensibly, many here believe that expressing opinions can be criminalized by Thailand and the rest of the world should just shut up. What about the insane drug laws in the UAE, where those bringing blood pressure meds through the airport are subject to imprisonment in very harsh conditions? There is no rational .defense of these kinds of laws. Words are not criminal and it cannot be considered criminal to control your blood pressure. International toleration of these laws is the crime, NOT violation of them.

[AGareth2]

how do we know that the Frenchman posted the pics on her Facebook account

has he confessed?

[sanemax]

2 minutes ago, Chip Allen said:

Ostensibly, many here believe that expressing opinions can be criminalized by Thailand and the rest of the world should just shut up. 

No, many on here believe that people shouldnt post naked photos of other people in the public domain .

  The OP is nothing to do with expressing an opinion

[AGareth2]

1 minute ago, sanemax said:

eople shouldnt post naked photos of other people in the public domain

facebook is not the pubic domain

[sanemax]

1 minute ago, AGareth2 said:

facebook is not the pubic domain

I do not want to get pedantic about the meaning of words , Im sure that you know what I meant, without me having to explain .

[wvavin]

Low life tactic!

[ka12]

44 minutes ago, AGareth2 said:

facebook is not the pubic domain

yes it's not public domain.

[lucjoker]

3 hours ago, sanemax said:

Although I am not talking about other subjects , those are different instances .

Yes, unlikely things do happen, although in this case in question , I do feel that its highly unlikely that this is a set -up

well , i do,that's all i said .You can think what you want ,It's a (free) country....

 

[sanemax]

27 minutes ago, ka12 said:

yes it's not public domain.

"if information is in the public domain, it is available for everyone to see or know about:"

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/public-domain

 

 

[sanemax]

Just now, lucjoker said:

well , i do,that's all i said .You can think what you want ,It's a (free) country....

 

I am willing to listen :

  On what grounds do you think that this is a set up.

What makes you believe that this is a set up.

Have you seen, heard anything that sways your decision

Explain your thought process

[sanemax]

[MaeJoMTB]

A lot of the Thai women I have met are surprisingly keen for me to take naked photos of them.

I even had to 'unfriend' my wife when I caught her trying to upload naked photos of me to my facebook page.

 

It's a funny old world. I never dreamed of doing this sort of stuff in the UK when I was young.

Unfortunately having naked photos of a Thai woman on your phone in Thailand is against the law (consensual or not) so not a good idea.

[SheungWan]

1 hour ago, sanemax said:

No, many on here believe that people shouldnt post naked photos of other people in the public domain .

  The OP is nothing to do with expressing an opinion

Exactly. But some keyboard warriors around here want to keep the door open for 'free' abusive behaviour.

[wakeupplease]

Disgraceful to see a photo like this for a crime that in the real world is civil and not criminal, just the country is so backward Handcuffs I ask you.

 

Advice to the guy

 

Admit it only if you did it otherwise say nothing and when they start going on about IP addresses they make it up as even the ministry who have given false information in the past and been caught out cannot check an IP address in another country so make it up and that is a fact. get your lawyer to force back your passport and leave by the backdoor if you have too.

 

Sorry guys I have seen my best friend suffer like this and have the photo's and paperwork to prove it.

 

3rd world mentality that is for sure.