Biometric devices to be used to detect foreign criminals

[Muggi1968]

It is a goof idea....

Every time I go to Malaysia I have finger print scanned at arrival.. Takes 2 sec.....

Whats the problem ????

[saminoz]

51 minutes ago, silent said:

Maybe the focus is "we have enough of our own criminals without adding more" 

...coupled with "This is an occupation reserved for Thais"!

[Sydebolle]

Excellent news - fully supported. And, if you're at it, please also make it standard procedure for Thais; by percentage as well as in absolute numbers the alien crime share is nowhere close to the number of misbehaving Khon Thai, will you? 

[dinsdale]

We fingerprint them but they change their names. Mmmmmmm? Very, very smart people running the show here in Thailand.

20 hours ago, rooster59 said:

The current system to detect criminals is not effective.  Some criminals went back to their home countries and returned under new names, he said.

[Ricardo]

39 minutes ago, HarrySeaman said:

I'm sure the Thai Army would be glad to sell Thai Immigration some slightly used GT200 units that could easily be adapted to point out foreign criminals.

No need, as the Royal Thai Police already have some GT200s, of their own !

 

"50 purchased by the Royal Thai Police for use in Police Region 4 (Khon Kaen)"

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GT200

 

However  "Reportedly, some 818 GT200 units were procured by Thai public bodies since 2004", so perhaps by now their batteries need replacing, in which case some well-connected or enterprising farang might assemble a bid to supply the new batteries ?  Kerching !

[xen]

I thought most  airports around the world  were installing facial recognition technology This way they can set up a camera in the arrival corridors and  scan all passengers before they even get to the immigration checkpoint and quietly remove them airside before they actually enter Thailand. Maybe it is a bit more complicated as to what jurisdiction (international or Thai) they would be charged under though.

Or perhaps there are no facial recognition systems available at a good price including the obligatory kickbacks .

[Ricardo]

12 hours ago, BuaBS said:

My fingerprints are in my passport. When Thai immigration scans my passport at the airport they have them.

 

In my own case, my fingerprints cannot possibly be in my (UK) passport, since nobody has ever taken them, anywhere or at any time.

 

I must have led a blameless/sheltered-life, or perhaps just not got caught ?

[Oxx]

16 minutes ago, Ricardo said:

However  "Reportedly, some 818 GT200 units were procured by Thai public bodies since 2004", so perhaps by now their batteries need replacing

 

The GT200s don't have batteries.  The manufacturer claimed  they are powered solely by the users' static electricity.

[Lupatria]

17 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

"Pol Lt Gen Suthipong said immigration police currently scan foreign criminals on the black list entering Thailand by checking their fingerprints.

 

The current system to detect criminals is not effective.  Some criminals went back to their home countries and returned under new names, he said."

 

Morons!

 

Morons- I agree. But not to the degree stating: some criminals come back with new finger tips.

[Oxx]

I notice that all the individuals in the photograph accompanying the PBS article are black.  Perhaps the authorities are making a rather too literal interpretation of the term "blacklist"?

[MaxLee]

20 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Biometric devices to be used to detect foreign criminals

[malibukid]

look Malayasia has been doing this for sometime, i am surprised that Thailand did not adopt this years ago.  about time. Iris scanning as well. how  about CNX and DMG airports?

[mduras01]

Digital print scanners will be a game changer on many fronts.


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[Wim1954]

16 hours ago, Ricardo said:

This sounds odd, as I've never once had my fingerprints scanned when entering Thailand, I wonder how Immigration pick which arriving-passengers might be criminals, and therefore need to be scanned ? 

 

It's a bit of a chicken-and-egg question.

See what happens next time you enter...

[Rangerdriver]

Perhaps they should consider using biometric devices to detect corrupt & criminal politicians and police officers.
[/quoteWaste of time as it would only prove the device is obviously broken.

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[Wim1954]

1 hour ago, 1337markus said:

Is this system just for Swampy? Many other entry points into the country.

Meaning ? Try to enter again they will catch you never mind which border you take you can't hide anymore.

[bluesofa]

But as usual, the amount of cash you have to offer can render the fingerprint scanner 'broken'.

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[Lucky mike]

At airport welcome to Thailand ! please go through biometric gate have your fingerprints, iris scan, hand geometry done, have a nice day ?

[Wim1954]

3 minutes ago, Rangerdriver said:

2 hours ago, Aj Mick said:

Perhaps they should consider using biometric devices to detect corrupt & criminal politicians and police officers.
[/quoteWaste of time as it would only prove the device is obviously broken.

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That comes after the criminal foreigners are caught the need the police and other officials for that problem first.

[Wim1954]

1 minute ago, Lucky mike said:

At airport welcome to Thailan ! please go through biometric gate have your fingerprints, iris scan, hand geometry done, have a nice day ?

Yes if you are not a criminal you can have a nice day.

[owl sees all]

10 minutes ago, Wim1954 said:

Meaning ? Try to enter again they will catch you never mind which border you take you can't hide anymore.

Easy to enter Thailand without using passport.

[farcanell]

16 hours ago, Ricardo said:

This sounds odd, as I've never once had my fingerprints scanned when entering Thailand, I wonder how Immigration pick which arriving-passengers might be criminals, and therefore need to be scanned ? 

 

It's a bit of a chicken-and-egg question.

Lol... even odder... I’ve never even seen a fingerprint scanner at immigrations. Maybe they have one out the back, on a cart,  which they rush out for suspected criminals.

[HHTel]

Not read the whole thread but a good start would be to catch their own criminals before targeting foreigners.

[Falcon]

They don’t say anything about getting fingerprint machines in the article, they say they are going to get biometric machines and then go in to say they will have facial recognition and other means installed. I would think that this would mean something like Dubai currently uses, iris scans which is a better indication of the persons identity, unless the person has laser surgery done (LASIK). Fingerprints aren’t currently taken at the airport here but those that have been arrested for some reason have already given their fingerprints over to the arresting officers so there will be a record of them.

[Si Thea01]

17 hours ago, Ricardo said:

This sounds odd, as I've never once had my fingerprints scanned when entering Thailand, I wonder how Immigration pick which arriving-passengers might be criminals, and therefore need to be scanned ? 

 

It's a bit of a chicken-and-egg question.

Come on, you know how smart they are.  And here's you thinking those drinking glasses on the plane were for just drinking out of.  Fooled ya, they're collected, scanned for DNA and fingerprints and Bob's your Uncle or Aunt. Only takes a few minutes or so I am led to believe given a few high profile cases that they spruiked about. Now trust me with this, do you think I would tell porkies. 

[pattayadgw]

How about starting on Biometrics for the Thai population.  It was recently published there are 800,000 + people with outstanding warrants in the country.  Thai's change there names about as often as i have cold beers..... about time the masterminds of all these wonderful new ideas thinks a bit more before opening ones mouth.  It's always 'farang this farang that'.... please stop beating us to death with all the blurb/blam for the countries woes.... we pour a lot of money into the country every day of every year.  Yes there are some unsavory characters here that need removing but lets be real.... 97% are good law abiding citizens who love the country and its people.

[Si Thea01]

24 minutes ago, HHTel said:

Not read the whole thread but a good start would be to catch their own criminals before targeting foreigners.

And you think they don't.  I guess those attending those buildings with the razor wire are just figments of their imagination.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but isn't fingerprinting (that they supposedly already have the capability to do) considered a biometric tool?

 

If they actually fingerprinted everyone upon arrival, the whole problem about foreigners changing their name on their passport in their home country and the returning to Thailand would cease.

 

As best as I recall, I was fingerprinted a few years ago upon arriving at one of the other country airports in Asia. Quick touch on an electronic scanner mounted on the counter, and it was done.  But of course, as others have pointed out above, I've never been fingerprinted on any arrival to TH through the years.

 

So it's hardly surprising foreign criminals are slipping in and out under different names. Obviously, this article and plan by Immigration is yet another attempt to bring about Thailand 0.5, and probably make some well connected people unusually wealthy along the way.

[Si Thea01]

54 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

Easy to enter Thailand without using passport.

Like an owl, flies under the cover of darkness.  Are you speaking from experience?

[ChouDoufu]

17 hours ago, inactiveposter said:

I wonder if the radar detectors and biometric devices will be purchased from the bomb detector company?
 

no silly, all they need is an ATM card scanner.

 

available balance will determine whether further

"questioning" is warranted......