If a Legal marriage is cancelled does that cancel your visa as well?

[Maca]

Does anyone know the situation if the marriage documents are lost from a legal marriage in Thailand then reported to the Police as lost, does that affect your Non O visa and leaving and coming back into Thailand?

[ubonjoe]

No problem until you apply for your next visa.

Do you have copy of your marriage certificate? If you were married here you could take that copy to an Amphoe and they would certify that copy and attach a new Kor Ror marriage registry to it. 

Edit: Reporting your marriage certificate as being lost does not cancel your marriage registry. All you need is new proof of it.

[FritsSikkink]

Not having the documents anymore doesn't cancel your marriage.

[Mattd]

49 minutes ago, Maca said:

Does anyone know the situation if the marriage documents are lost from a legal marriage in Thailand

If you were legally married in Thailand, then you both should have been given a marriage certificate, does your wife still have hers?

[KhunBENQ]

3 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

Not having the documents anymore doesn't cancel your marriage.

I was also confused by the thread title vs. the post.

"Legal marriage is cancelled" and "lost documents" sound very different.

[steve187]

if only divorce was that easy

[Mattd]

29 minutes ago, steve187 said:

if only divorce was that easy

5555 indeed.

[Foozool]

"Legal marriage is cancelled" ❓

marriage can not be cancelled  (could happen by court though) unless has gone through divorce process. 

Edited October 25, 2017 by Foozool

[Media1]

12 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

No problem until you apply for your next visa.

Do you have copy of your marriage certificate? If you were married here you could take that copy to an Amphoe and they would certify that copy and attach a new Kor Ror marriage registry to it. 

Edit: Reporting your marriage certificate as being lost does not cancel your marriage registry. All you need is new proof of it.

Please correct me if I are wrong. If your on 12 month marriage extension and you cancel your marriage mutual agreement at the Amphur. You really have 7 days to leave the country. 

But in saying this immigration will not know and you can use the 12 month stamp.

[Media1]

44 minutes ago, Foozool said:

"Legal marriage is cancelled" ❓

marriage can not be cancelled  (could happen by court though) unless has gone through divorce process. 

You can cancel as easy as you and your wife going to the Amphur you married at. All over in 10 minutes

[Foozool]

4 minutes ago, Media1 said:

You can cancel as easy as you and your wife going to the Amphur you married at. All over in 10 minutes

That is called "a divorce" , not cancel a marriage. 

[Media1]

1 minute ago, Foozool said:

That is called "a divorce" , not cancel a marriage. 

Divorce Cancel amounts to the same thing

[Foozool]

12 minutes ago, Media1 said:

Divorce Cancel amounts to the same thing

"Divorce" and "cancelling a marriage" are not the same. 

I don't know how close these words could be in Thai dictionary.

example: if a marriage get canceled by court, it means the 2 party never been married (for this marriage) and this is very different than a divorce. 

 

Edited October 25, 2017 by Foozool

[BritTim]

3 hours ago, Media1 said:

Divorce Cancel amounts to the same thing

I would interpret "canceling" a marriage as an annulment.

[isitworthit]

Yeah very confusing Legal Marriage can't be canceled other then divorce.

[BritTim]

52 minutes ago, isitworthit said:

Yeah very confusing Legal Marriage can't be canceled other then divorce.

That is not always true. In rare cases, there can be annulments.

 

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Annulment in Thailand

The legal concept of “Annulment” is a legal proceeding that declares a marriage void, meaning that it never legally existed.  In Thailand actions to declare a marriage "void" would normally need to be decided through a court action in the form of a complaint applied to the Thai Family Court. Thai Family law declares a marriage either “void” or “voidable”, as follows:  

Void Marriages

A marriage may be declared void – in that it is treated as though it never legally existed in Thailand – under the following conditions:

• Incest - The parties are descendents of each other, or are brother or sister (either full or half).
•  Insanity – One or both parties is insane or incompetent and was at the time the marriage ceremony took place.
• Lack of registration – The parties failed to register their marriage at the appropriate district office. Note that marriages that are celebrated as religious ceremonies in the Kingdom of Thailand are therefore void until the parties in question register their marriage appropriately.
•  Pre-existing marriage – One or both of the parties was married to a third party at the time of the marriage ceremony.

In order for a marriage to be declared void, a court must issue an order citing that the marriage is void for the above reasons.

 Depending on the circumstances of the marriage in question, various affected parties may apply for a court order declaring a marriage void. In the case of a pre-existing marriage, both spouses of a bigamous spouse may apply to declare a marriage void, as may both sets of parents affected by the marriage. Thailand law allows for a marriage to be declared void if the marriage was entered in good faith – the affected spouse was unaware of any of the pre-existing conditions at the time of the marriage.

In general, a void marriage differs from divorce in that the marriage in that it is determined to never have legally existed.  This may have an effect with regard to assets of the marriage and how they are divided. This may also have an effect to other legal issues such as paternity and inheritance.

Voidable Marriages

Voidable marriages differ from void marriages, in that a voidable marriage is one that is valid until it is declared otherwise, while a void marriage is considered by Thai law to have been invalid from the beginning. Furthermore, a marriage may only be dissolved by Thai courts on the basis of being voidable if a petition to do so is made within a certain time limit.

A marriage may be dissolved if it is declared voidable under the following conditions:

• Age: Under Thai law, both parties must be at least 17 years of age; parties between the ages of 17 and 20 may only marry with the consent of a parent. If the parties in question do not fit these age specifications, both they and their parents may apply to the court to dissolve the marriage within a year, before the spouse in question turns twenty, or before the woman in question becomes pregnant as a result of the marriage.
• Mistaken Identity  - If one spouse misrepresents their identity to another spouse in order to facilitate the marriage, the deceived spouse may submit a request for the marriage to be cancelled within 90 days of the marriage’s registration.
• Fraud – If one spouse misrepresents their financial status or personal background to facilitate the marriage, the deceived party has 90 days from the time of learning reality of the marriage to request that the marriage be cancelled, or 1 year from the date of the marriage, whichever occurs first.
• Force – If one party is forced into a marriage, under physical or mental duress, they have until 1 year after the marriage to apply for the marriage to be dismissed.

 

Fwiiw I think many foreigners who decide to marry Thai bargirls might consider try to get an annulment on the basis that they were out of their mind at the time.

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[GOLDBUGGY]

On ‎10‎/‎26‎/‎2017 at 4:48 AM, isitworthit said:

Yeah very confusing Legal Marriage can't be canceled other then divorce.

As someone already said, a Legal Marriage can in fact be cancelled (annulled) under certain circumstances.

 

Take for example a Man who Marries a Woman and who they live together for many years, and even have children together. But later the mans first wife shows up and it has been discovered that this man was married already and he never obtained a legal divorce. In a case like that, his second marriage to his new wife would more likely be Annulled (cancelled).

 

But then, he didn't have a Legal Marriage to the second wife, as it was deemed illegal. So I guess you would technically be correct in saying that you can't cancel a Legal Marriage.  That you can only cancel an illegal one.

[overherebc]

On 25/10/2017 at 2:43 PM, steve187 said:

if only divorce was that easy

If it turns out like that let me know.

Making mental plans now just in case.

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