The Urgency of Addressing Iran’s Nuclear Threat

[Morch]

48 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

defense against.....who?  no country in the

nearby has the capability to attack.

 

the point of air defense in this case is to

defeat another country's deterrence,

allowing israel to continue to attack

others with impunity.

 

for starters, the comments made were about the nature of USA military presence in Israel being of a defensive, rather than an offensive nature. Not quite the meaning and spin added above.

 

As linked above, it's a radar facility, provides early warning etc. It doesn't, by itself, provide any active "air defense". It doesn't "defeat" any other country's "deterrence". And do make up your mind, either there are no countries nearby capable of attack or there are (as implied by "detterence"). Notable hostiles in the region able to launch attacks to which said radar would apply are Iran, Syria (and possibly Hezbollah). Of course, it also serves USA military interests, same as similar systems deployed elsewhere in the region.

 

Israel was carrying out attacks way before this radar facility was in place, the two issues are not related. And once more, Israel and Syria are officially at a state of war.

 

45 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

Ummm....Israel gets hit with missile attacks fairly frequently.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel,_2017

 

The USA facility have little to do with Palestinian rocket attacks, or even Hezbollah's (up to now). Mainly related to longer ranged missiles and aerial attacks.

[billd766]

On 13/11/2017 at 10:32 AM, boomerangutang said:

So Israel has not been sleeping for the past 3 years?  No, they're very aware. Always vigilant, as they should be.  They also produce some of the best quality small weapons ww.

 

As for Ezzra's post above:  I don't think Israel can presume to keep Iranians out of Syria or Lebanon.   What Israelis are focused on, is keeping foes from border area buffer zones.  That's smart.

 

Israel fought a tough little war with Syria.  Observers looking at the dynamics prior to engagement on that day, had Syria winning handily.   Syria lost.   I knew one of the Israeli tank crew, Joshi.  He was a jovial sweet guy, with wife and baby daughter.  I imagine most of his tanker buddies were a grittier bunch than him.  

 

After the battle, Israel could have rolled its remaining tanks on into Syria - all the way, unopposed, to Damascus and occupied Syria, if it so chose.  But it didn't.  It only occupied the Golan Heights - which showed its restraint and good sense.

 

The problem with winning territory is not so much the winning but holding it afterwards. If Israel HAD occupied Syria it would have occupied a large territory where the population would be anti-Israeli and it would have sucked in a large proportion of the Israeli population as the occupying army and Israel does not have that large a population.

[ChouDoufu]

17 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

for starters, the comments made were about the nature of USA military presence in Israel being of a defensive, rather than an offensive nature. Not quite the meaning and spin added above.

 

As linked above, it's a radar facility, provides early warning etc. It doesn't, by itself, provide any active "air defense". It doesn't "defeat" any other country's "deterrence".

sorry you don't understand.

no country has the capability to attack israel.

(unless by attack you include national suicide)

some have the ability to respond to israeli attack.

iran has missiles to deter israeli aggression, in that

if attacked they can inflict some pain.

the us facility is designed to defeat that deterrence.

 

[Morch]

17 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

sorry you don't understand.

no country has the capability to attack israel.

(unless by attack you include national suicide)

some have the ability to respond to israeli attack.

iran has missiles to deter israeli aggression, in that

if attacked they can inflict some pain.

the us facility is designed to defeat that deterrence.

 

 

The military capabilities of regional players to carry out attacks exists. Whether or not such capabilities are used is another matter. That you label actions as "response" doesn't change that, nor is it even always correct. You have no particular insight as to Iran's future plans with regard to these issue, just making things up to fit your point of view. The USA radar facility is not, by itself, capable of "defeating" anything.

 

I don't recall you (at least not under the current moniker) having similar objections to Russia military presence in Syria, which is of a far greater magnitude than the USA's military presence in Israel.

 

As far as I am aware, there weren't any comments made by either Syrian or Iranian officials citing this specific USA military presence in Israel as a direct threat. Mainly because it isn't one.

Edited November 16, 2017 by Morch

[craigt3365]

40 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

sorry you don't understand.

no country has the capability to attack israel.

(unless by attack you include national suicide)

some have the ability to respond to israeli attack.

iran has missiles to deter israeli aggression, in that

if attacked they can inflict some pain.

the us facility is designed to defeat that deterrence.

 

Maybe you should read this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Israel

 

Seems quite a few countries have been involved with wars against Israel?  As for Iran, you mean that country who has said they want Israel to be wiped off the face of the earth?  Is that Israeli aggression? LOL

 

Glad the US facility is there for protection.

[XGM]

This is most likely a missile protection system, with American technology the US doesn't want to share with Israel, meaning it needs to be operated by Americans rather than Israelis.

 

This is one of many steps US has taken to quiet down Israel on the point of required attack on Iranian nuclear sites. It will be insane from Israel's side not to be concerned regarding Iran's nuclear efforts. 

 

This has nothing to do with Syria or the Gaza strip.