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7 minutes ago, Gruff said:

Men and women are only alike sexually, in every other way they are from different planets. Perhaps that does mean the joint role is only for reproduction.

I know I'm not like a woman sexually.  I have tried on numerous occasions to trade sex for money and have never been successful while all of my wives had no problem trading sex for money or other things of value (dinner, movies, car, house, jewelry and so on). 

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46 minutes ago, amvet said:

I know I'm not like a woman sexually.  I have tried on numerous occasions to trade sex for money and have never been successful while all of my wives had no problem trading sex for money or other things of value (dinner, movies, car, house, jewelry and so on). 

Hmn, yes but i didn't mean it quite like that. But i don't understand how women have the power to trade sex for money and i don't understand why (in a lot of circumstances) men will pay for the company (not just sexually) of women. Just as one example i was at Dubai airport last night. A youngish realtively attractive and well travelled American woman (so statistically almost certainly a feminist) had obviously just met a middle aged Southern European looking guy, who looked a bit disshevelled and not of wealth. They ate together and had a glass of wine, not cheap at an airport. When it came to the bill she reached for her handbag more slowly than a sloth would travel from London to Bangkok. The guy makes the offer and pays the bill and after tel no exchange they part ways. Why, why did the guy pay the bill?  Sometimes us guys only have ourselves to blame

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6 hours ago, Been there done that said:

Women are excellent manipulators. There instincts are more like animals. Hence as most western societies became more civilized, input primarily from men, women benefit the most from it. Equality and so on. 

 

Men are the real suckers. Power is to the women !

Yep us guys are stupid and they are sitting there ready and waiting to take advantage.

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23 minutes ago, marko kok prong said:

This subject even broke Freud after extensive study his conclusion was" At the end of the day,what the hell do they actually want"

And the answer to that question is:

They want it all, and they want it now.

Just like everybody else.

 

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On ‎11‎/‎20‎/‎2017 at 2:43 PM, Gruff said:

Hmn, yes but i didn't mean it quite like that. But i don't understand how women have the power to trade sex for money and i don't understand why (in a lot of circumstances) men will pay for the company (not just sexually) of women. Just as one example i was at Dubai airport last night. A youngish realtively attractive and well travelled American woman (so statistically almost certainly a feminist) had obviously just met a middle aged Southern European looking guy, who looked a bit disshevelled and not of wealth. They ate together and had a glass of wine, not cheap at an airport. When it came to the bill she reached for her handbag more slowly than a sloth would travel from London to Bangkok. The guy makes the offer and pays the bill and after tel no exchange they part ways. Why, why did the guy pay the bill?  Sometimes us guys only have ourselves to blame

I think most men would have a story like that to tell.

I once met up with a woman I knew from work and offered to take her to lunch at a cheap restaurant I knew ( it wasn't a date and I wasn't trying to impress her ), but she suggested a more expensive place so I made the classic mistake of assuming she would pay for her own meal.

Long story short she didn't pay anything and I had to pay twice what I'd have had to in the place I wanted to go to. In those days I was a bit shy, so I paid. Now I'd pay for my own and tell her to take a taxi home as well as pay for her own meal.

 

I asked a woman I was mad about out to a movie and a restaurant meal. After the movie we went to the restaurant and she refused to speak with me the entire time ( I'd had a few dates with her before, so that was a bit strange ). Looking back it was like she just wanted a free movie. Needless to say she never explained and we never dated again. To my everlasting regret, I hired a taxi to take both us back to her house and escorted her to the door, instead of taking her to the taxi rank and waiting till she was in one before heading back to my house.

 

Then, there was a dinner with a group of women from work. I expected to pay for my own main course and I didn't have desert, but when it came time to pay, they insisted that we split the cost equally between all of us. I never went to a dinner with them again.

 

I once got asked to take a female friend of a friend up to a ski field which I did. She spent the weekend screwing some guy she met up there, but still expected me to take her back, instead of going with lover boy.

 

I was quite keen on a woman from work, and she agreed to go to a disco in the next town with me ( in those days there wasn't anything in our town at night ) on a date. While there she got pissed and spent the night in a motel with a man she picked up. I went to stay with a friend in that town and in the morning she called me and asked me to take her back because her new love had left her in the motel. My friend said I should just leave her there, but I'm a big softie so I did take her back, though conversation was rather lacking on the trip. She thanked me by vomiting all over my car.

 

I offered to fix a female friend of a friend's car for free. When I turned up at the car she was nowhere in sight, and never came. I left and eventually found out some other guy fixed it but she couldn't be arsed letting me know

 

I had a GF and her car's starter motor broke. She turned up with her father ( bit strange I thought ) for me to repair it, and the next day ( after it was all OK ) she dumped me, because I was "moving too fast". In truth, had I been going any slower, I'd have been going backwards.

 

Then there was a girl I didn't even know accused me of breaking her tooth, when it was my friend, though of course that could just be erroneous memory rather than female illogic.

 

A man has more chance of understanding a fish that's been dead for a month and half eaten by bacteria, than he has of understanding women.

Also, they don't usually indulge in physical violence, but verbally, they can strip flesh with their words, and they do it to men knowing they won't get hit in return.

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On ‎11‎/‎21‎/‎2017 at 8:32 AM, Been there done that said:

Scared ??

 

Naive about, you must mean.

Nah, girls scared me when I was a boy and I never had a proper date till I was in my 20s. Even then I was in awe of them, like they were special or something.

However, working in a female dominated career cured me of any of that.

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On ‎11‎/‎21‎/‎2017 at 1:59 PM, oldhippy said:

And the answer to that question is:

They want it all, and they want it now.

Just like everybody else.

 

I've noticed that when they want something they can become completely irrational, like when they hook up with really bad men and think they can change them.

Also, they will give unconditional "love" and fierce dedication to really awful scumbags, but will treat really good men like c**p. Not only that, but after they have produced a potential criminal or three for said really awful scumbag, they will run off to a shelter where they spend their time complaining that there are "no good men around".

The really sad one is when good looking women join bad guy gangs where they become subject to sex by anyone in the gang, and willingly put up with being treated badly. I asked a female colleague about that, and she said that just because a woman is good looking doesn't mean she IS good.

I still don't understand why any woman would voluntarily choose that life though.

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On ‎11‎/‎20‎/‎2017 at 8:26 PM, Been there done that said:

Women are excellent manipulators. There instincts are more like animals. Hence as most western societies became more civilized, input primarily from men, women benefit the most from it. Equality and so on. 

 

Men are the real suckers. Power is to the women !

I realised some years ago that it's a woman's world in the west now. PC which they use to keep men subservient reigns supreme, and men are voluntarily submitting and assisting them- curse those feminist men!

Western women are taking jobs that give them power in society, like lawyers and politicians, so they have control without having to do the dog work which men can do for them.

They are generally smarter, more controlled, more dedicated to their chosen career path ( they have managed to convince men that children don't need a parent at home, so they can carry on working and career building ). They are also experts at using emotion to control the "enemy" ( men ).

In organisations like the military they have been able to achieve high rank without ever going in harms way, though that is changing now, and have managed to get the physical requirements to join up reduced so they can qualify.

Subtle propaganda is used on tv to brainwash men into believing they are stupid and inferior to god like wimmin, who are always the clever ones. Aussie tv is the worst I have seen for pro woman/ anti men shows, but it is always subtle, so one wouldn't notice if one wasn't looking for it.

Movies are on the same path. Even Star Wars is about how great the woman is now, and the top selling blockbuster of the year was Wonderwoman. Male dominated films are usually about men blowing things up and killing everyone.

 

However, I have yet to meet a man that thinks it's important to plaster his face with makeup for half an hour before going outside, though they are trying to change that.

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2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Aussie tv is the worst I have seen for pro woman/ anti men shows, but it is always subtle, so one wouldn't notice if one wasn't looking for it.

 

I'm right there with you bro, and i have noticed it big time. How about the ads for the universities? You'd think men weren't welcome.

 

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3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I realised some years ago that it's a woman's world in the west now. PC which they use to keep men subservient reigns supreme, and men are voluntarily submitting and assisting them- curse those feminist men!

Western women are taking jobs that give them power in society, like lawyers and politicians, so they have control without having to do the dog work which men can do for them.

They are generally smarter, more controlled, more dedicated to their chosen career path ( they have managed to convince men that children don't need a parent at home, so they can carry on working and career building ). They are also experts at using emotion to control the "enemy" ( men ).

In organisations like the military they have been able to achieve high rank without ever going in harms way, though that is changing now, and have managed to get the physical requirements to join up reduced so they can qualify.

Subtle propaganda is used on tv to brainwash men into believing they are stupid and inferior to god like wimmin, who are always the clever ones. Aussie tv is the worst I have seen for pro woman/ anti men shows, but it is always subtle, so one wouldn't notice if one wasn't looking for it.

Movies are on the same path. Even Star Wars is about how great the woman is now, and the top selling blockbuster of the year was Wonderwoman. Male dominated films are usually about men blowing things up and killing everyone.

 

However, I have yet to meet a man that thinks it's important to plaster his face with makeup for half an hour before going outside, though they are trying to change that.

.....but it is always subtle, so one wouldn't notice if one wasn't looking for it. Therein stems the "problem", only a few can see it. Females have been very clever about avoiding a debate about emotional abuse. The "metoo campaign" in the west helps to keep the image of "only" men are the abusers. Not to say that real sexual abuse does not need to be punished ofcourse.

 

What a world !

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