webfact Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Two men face perjury charge in Jomsap case Complaints filed against convicted ex-teacher’s close friend and man who claimed responsibility for fatal 2005 accident TWO MEN linked to efforts to clear the name of Jomsap Saenmuangkhot, a former teacher convicted in a high-profile fatal hit-and-run case, are now facing legal action for alleged perjury. Jomsap’s close friend Suriya Nuancharoen, and Sap Wapi who claimed he was responsible for the fatal accident, face new complaints related to their statements. “Complaints against them have already been filed with three police stations to begin the process for investigations,” Nakhon Phanom police chief Pol Maj-General Suwicharn Yarnkittikul said yesterday. Last Friday, the Supreme Court threw out Jomsap’s request to seek a fresh trial into the 2005 fatal road accident in which she was convicted and jailed. Office of the Attorney-General deputy spokesman Prayut Bejraguna said documents showed the Supreme Court had rejected the request because payments were allegedly made to have someone claim responsibility for the death in place of Jomsap. “When you give false information to the court, your action constitutes perjury. Such a crime is punishable by a jail term of up to five years. The penalty applies to both the hirer and the paid accomplices,” he said. Prayut refused to speculate on the outcome of the case. “At this point, it is the duty of the investigators to take action,” he said. On February 26, 2013, the Supreme Court found Jomsap guilty of a hit-and-run accident that killed Lua Phorbamrung in 2005. Suriya contacted Renu Nakhon Police Station on December 25, 2013, claiming that Sert Roopsa-ard was the driver of the pickup that hit Lua, according to Suwicharn. But then on May 19, 2014, Suriya brought Sap Wapi to Na Don Police Station with the latter testifying that he was the culprit. The fact that two men came forward to claim responsibility for the accident raised doubts. Although Sap claimed he had driven a pickup with the “Bor Khor 56 Mukdahan” licence plate on the day of the accident, ownership documents showed the vehicle had been in the possession of another individual, Ubon Chaiban, since 2004. Ubon said no one had used the old vehicle in 2005. Jomsap drove a pickup with the “Bor Khor 56 Sakon Nakhon” licence plate. Witnesses saw a “Bor Khor 56” licence plate on the vehicle that hit Lua but were unable to identify other details about the vehicle, according to police who investigated the case on the day the accident happened. But more recently, two witnesses, Tassanee Harnpayak and Thongres Wongsricha, told authorities that they had seen a man driving the vehicle – something they did not tell police on the first day of the investigation. Suwicharn said yesterday that Suriya was now the prime suspect in efforts to whitewash the case. “We will investigate further who else was involved. Whether Jomsap too will face perjury charges will depend on the evidence,” he said. Jomsap has already served a jail term for the fatal hit-and-run accident, but after 18 months behind bars she received a royal pardon. She has spent the past two years trying to prove that she was not involved in the accident and to get her teaching post back. Suriya is also a teacher. When Jomsap requested a fresh trial into the accident, she tried to present Sap’s testimony as fresh evidence. Police and public prosecutors had objected to her request for a retrial. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30332018 -- © Copyright The Nation 2017-11-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) Oh dear me, this will be a bitter pill to swallow. It seems the BIB were actually right. Could Jomsap now get another 5 years for soliciting perjury? Edited November 19, 2017 by halloween Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexlowe Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 The interesting point here is that in another story it quoted someone as saying that there appeared to be a gang in operation which can help you get off a charge by having a person take the rap for you. Police are investigating this, it seems. So along with the usual scapegoats (estimated by some to be up to 50% of inmates) in prison, there are now professionals for hire to do time for you. Bit late for the Red Bull rotter, though (second posting, folks -- is this a record? ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Dexlowe said: The interesting point here is that in another story it quoted someone as saying that there appeared to be a gang in operation which can help you get off a charge by having a person take the rap for you. Police are investigating this, it seems. So along with the usual scapegoats (estimated by some to be up to 50% of inmates) in prison, there are now professionals for hire to do time for you. Bit late for the Red Bull rotter, though (second posting, folks -- is this a record? ). Is your claim of 50% of inmates being "scapegoats" based on the seldom held belief that those willing to cheat, steal, peddle drugs, molest children, rape and murder would not stoop to lying? BTW in my experience the percentage claiming total innocence is closer to 90. Edited November 19, 2017 by halloween Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexlowe Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 1 minute ago, halloween said: Is your claim of 50% of inmates being "scapegoats" based on the seldom held belief that those willing to cheat, steal, peddle drugs, molest children, rape and murder would not stoop to lying? Some years back this was an issue after it was raised by various NGOs. Some of these groups even put the scapegoat figure at a higher level. If I remember correctly, the Department of Corrections entered the picture, with its then director suggesting that he too believed there were an enormous number of innocent people in the country's jails. Other anecdotal evidence and personal knowledge would lend some weight to this, with many stories (a few of which I was quite close to) of the police grabbing the first available person to charge to save them the trouble of doing real police work. It's one of the reason why I have such a deep-seated hatred of the Thai police.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 A post containing off topic comments about the recent drunk doctor case has been removed as well as the replies. Let's not hijack the topic regarding other ongoing cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 4 hours ago, webfact said: “When you give false information to the court, your action constitutes perjury. Such a crime is punishable by a jail term of up to five years. The penalty applies to both the hirer and the paid accomplices,” he said. exempted are: HiSo boys accompanied by their mommy, unspecified influential persons, men in black/green/brown, all cabinet level ministers (their family and friends and mia nois), and one frog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 the point being that the police here just make it up as they go, whatever suits the agenda will they have to prove that these people told lies ? will the doctor who ran someone over and dragged him up the street have to take a breath test - well no he can refuse, will the police then do what they are supposed to do and assume guilt based on that refusal - well who knows Justice in Thailand carried out to the letter of the law depending on what fits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 14 minutes ago, klauskunkel said: exempted are: HiSo boys accompanied by their mommy, unspecified influential persons, men in black/green/brown, all cabinet level ministers (their family and friends and mia nois), and one frog You forgot Yingluk, on at least 2 occasions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Croc Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I can't believe lying is considered to be an offence in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 4 hours ago, Dexlowe said: Some years back this was an issue after it was raised by various NGOs. Some of these groups even put the scapegoat figure at a higher level. If I remember correctly, the Department of Corrections entered the picture, with its then director suggesting that he too believed there were an enormous number of innocent people in the country's jails. Other anecdotal evidence and personal knowledge would lend some weight to this, with many stories (a few of which I was quite close to) of the police grabbing the first available person to charge to save them the trouble of doing real police work. It's one of the reason why I have such a deep-seated hatred of the Thai police.. agreed, and to explicitly connect your own dots, the 'court portion' of the thai 'justice system' is failing too; prosecutors,judges are 'processing' these innocents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tradewind777 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Perjury, Hmm I bet the translation in Thai for this is “circumstantial truth” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 9 minutes ago, Old Croc said: I can't believe lying is considered to be an offence in Thailand. now that is probably the number one comment on this thread and if you followed this case from the start................................who lied first lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldgit Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Arguementative/baiting post removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadeeken Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Old Croc said: I can't believe lying is considered to be an offence in Thailand. You are absolutely right................. After all lying is so 'common and acceptable' in Thailand.......... From the 'TOP' downward............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieAus Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Oh what a tangled web you weave when you first set out to deceive !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxcorrigan Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 8 hours ago, sawadeeken said: You are absolutely right................. After all lying is so 'common and acceptable' in Thailand.......... From the 'TOP' downward............. They have to lie, it goes hand in hand with saving face, which in itself is a fare stronger reason in Thailand than simply just lying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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