silent Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 18 hours ago, worgeordie said: Something to hide ? regards Worgeordie I'm not saying a word https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/10/us/marine-drill-instructor-sentenced.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 19 hours ago, stephen tracy said: Well, what a surprise. Either they're so dumb they actually think people believe their BS or their so arrogant they simply don't care. To rub salt in the wounds on the victim's family, they're saying they only want recruits who are tough, thus implying to the family that the victim was not tough. Tough or not, anyone can die after being beaten to death. Prayut and Prawit saying they also experience this kind of treatment in the army is laughable. Can you seriously imagine either of these buffoons taking a beating? Never happened. It is an insult to man and women in uniform all over the world that Prayut and Prawit have the nerve to call themselves soldiers. Would you follow them onto a battlefield? Would you trust somebody you knew was not up to the task to protect your back on the ground under fire? Unfortunately it is a double edged sword, on one side yes, the recruit needs to be tough to carry out what he is being ultimately trained for, but on the other proper supervision needs to be maintained to achieve this. All speculation I know but I'm sure there was a medical issue involved in this tragic incident. Otherwise you would be hearing of these sort of incidents every single day as this is standard operating procedure for recruit training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Code Red and this time it sticks on the Army's back. What a difference in cultures! Remember the student, Otto Warmbier, who was airlifted out of North Korea back to the US in a rescue operation? Nobody ever will find out why he died, because his Jewish parents could follow their faith. From a medical or political point of view possibly wrong, but definitely the right thing from a human point. Bottomline is, a Thai cadet is a slave in the hands of despots under the rule of Prawit and his cronies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jools Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 The French Revolution righted many wrongs. Thailand needs a similar event with public executions of military officials and a reorganization of the military under civilian control. Automatic death penalty for anyone above the rank of Lieutenant would be a good place to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nausea Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Thai's a difficult language, here let me help with a proper translation of this phrase ""Army Won't Allow Civilian Inquiry Into Cadet Death": "Guilty as charged, M'lud" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon789561 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 pirbright barracks to name just one? happens everywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi49jr Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 On 24-11-2017 at 12:23 PM, stephen tracy said: Well, what a surprise. Either they're so dumb they actually think people believe their BS or their so arrogant they simply don't care. To rub salt in the wounds on the victim's family, they're saying they only want recruits who are tough, thus implying to the family that the victim was not tough. Tough or not, anyone can die after being beaten to death. Prayut and Prawit saying they also experience this kind of treatment in the army is laughable. Can you seriously imagine either of these buffoons taking a beating? Never happened. It is an insult to man and women in uniform all over the world that Prayut and Prawit have the nerve to call themselves soldiers. Would you follow them onto a battlefield? 'Either they're so dumb they actually think people believe their BS or their so arrogant they simply don't care.' My money would be on the latter : they are pretty dumb, but what it comes down to is that they really don't give a toss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Media1 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 A organisation obviously being run by lunatics. The best thing is to sue them. The public are already waiting to vote this regime out. Prayut is desperate and knows he must become the number 1 D now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 18 hours ago, Happy enough said: pirbright barracks to name just one? happens everywhere but was there an open inquiry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon789561 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 31 minutes ago, AGareth2 said: but was there an open inquiry? yeah but what did that change? nothing "Over the past 15 years there have been 126 deaths during training across all three services, including four so far this year" that quotes from 2015, doubt much has changed, could be wrong, often am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 yeah but what did that change? nothing "Over the past 15 years there have been 126 deaths during training across all three services, including four so far this year" that quotes from 2015, doubt much has changed, could be wrong, often amAnd that is 126 too many. But, and I am not excusing them, they will have been the subject of a military enquiry, and a civilian coroner's inquest.Those responsible will have been disciplined, properly and openly.None of these deaths have been as a result of the recruit having been beaten to death during training.Sent from my KENNY using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtongtourist Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 2 hours ago, Media1 said: A organisation obviously being run by lunatics. The best thing is to sue them. The public are already waiting to vote this regime out. Prayut is desperate and knows he must become the number 1 D now. They cannot be sued, dont you know? Very early on they did make laws that they can never be held accounted or prosecuted for any decision they make or are a part of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 On 24/11/2017 at 6:18 PM, White Christmas13 said: Army Won’t Allow Civilian Inquiry Into Cadet Death That says it all Would they in your country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardrunner Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Just now, FritsSikkink said: Would they in your country? yes in fact they would not be allowed to stop a coroners inquest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, yardrunner said: yes in fact they would not be allowed to stop a coroners inquest What country is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 On 25/11/2017 at 12:29 PM, thaiguzzi said: No. He does not need a good PR advisor. He needs to keep shooting himself in the foot. He needs to fail. He needs to be more disliked, by the day, week, month, until this country is finally rid of him. And then he needs to stand trial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon789561 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 On 11/25/2017 at 5:29 AM, thaiguzzi said: No. He does not need a good PR advisor. He needs to keep shooting himself in the foot. He needs to fail. He needs to be more disliked, by the day, week, month, until this country is finally rid of him. And then he needs to stand trial. never gonna happen 555 stand trial i mean. just can't see that happening mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 A post containing a disallowed reference to the current government has been removed. An off topic conspiracy deflection post has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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