Morch Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 10 minutes ago, Russell17au said: The Times of Israel reported that Biton was found guilty of robbing and attacking an old woman in Israel in the 1990s. He was sentenced to five years in jail but escaped before entering prison. He was caught four years later in Belgium and extradited to Israel where he served two years, then fled to Thailand during a furlough. He was eventually extradited back to Israel after spending time in jail in Thailand for concealing a body, and became a police informant following his release from jail two years later. You are confusing the 2 cases. this is the extract from the Times of Israel and it was a murder that he committed in Israel in the 1990's that he was extradited back to Israel, at present he is still in custody here in Thailand. Three cases, actually. ...found guilty of robbing and attacking an old woman in Israel in the 1990s. .... spending time in jail in Thailand for concealing a body. and the current case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell17au Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Morch said: Three cases, actually. ...found guilty of robbing and attacking an old woman in Israel in the 1990s. .... spending time in jail in Thailand for concealing a body. and the current case sorry, yes you are right, there was another case here in Thailand where he concealed another body. But the point that I was making was that he was still here in Thailand and the case that showed he was extradited was back in the 1990's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnehaha Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 On 12/2/2017 at 10:43 AM, joeyg said: Some illegal alien felon, just shot and killed a girl walking with her father on a pier in San Francisco. Said he found the gun and shot her by accident. Walked "scott free" No manslaughter. He will be deported for the 6th time... http://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/30/us/kate-steinle-murder-trial-verdict/index.html Yeah. Saw that in the news. what's the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell17au Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Here is another story about this man. Cohen was convicted of murdering his wife in 2004 and sentenced to life in prison. Cohen bought a one-way ticket for his ex-wife to fly to Bangkok and within 24 hours murdered her in his hotel him. He dumped her mutilated body in a river in the city and called the Israeli Embassy in Bangkok to report the missing person. Cohen spent eight years in prison, however in 2012 the King of Thailand pardoned him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Russell17au said: Here is another story about this man. Cohen was convicted of murdering his wife in 2004 and sentenced to life in prison. Cohen bought a one-way ticket for his ex-wife to fly to Bangkok and within 24 hours murdered her in his hotel him. He dumped her mutilated body in a river in the city and called the Israeli Embassy in Bangkok to report the missing person. Cohen spent eight years in prison, however in 2012 the King of Thailand pardoned him. Nope, that's not the victim, but another Israeli man with a similar name. Edited December 3, 2017 by Morch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell17au Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Morch said: Nope, that's not the victim, but another Israeli man with a similar name. The Times of Israel reported that Biton was found guilty of robbing and attacking an old woman in Israel in the 1990s. He was sentenced to five years in jail but escaped before entering prison. He was caught four years later in Belgium and extradited to Israel where he served two years, then fled to Thailand during a furlough. He was eventually extradited back to Israel after spending time in jail in Thailand for concealing a body, and became a police informant following his release from jail two years later. Then Cohen murdered his ex-wife in Thailand in 2004 and is given a Kings pardon in 2012 Now his body has been found buried in concrete and he was killed by Biton and his son. All these are linked in someway. What was the case of Biton concealing a body back in the 1990's that he served 2 years in a Thai jail? Edited December 3, 2017 by Russell17au Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, Russell17au said: The Times of Israel has linked them altogether as being the one person Yeah, initially there was some confusion. Still not the same person, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Multiple off topic 'mutual admiration' posts have been removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell17au Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 8 minutes ago, Morch said: Yeah, initially there was some confusion. Still not the same person, though. So which one is not the same man Biton or Cohen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Russell17au said: So which one is not the same man Biton or Cohen? Two Cohens. One is the victim, another is the guy who butchered his wife and stuffed her in a suitcase. Ah, alright...the older case Biton was charged with (body hiding), is not the same one as the above mentioned butchered-wife-in-suitcase. Edited December 3, 2017 by Morch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell17au Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Just now, Morch said: Two Cohens. One is the victim, another is the guy who butchered his wife and stuffed her in a suitcase. ok, thanks you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHTel Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 I don't understand why they keep dishing out the death penalty. It's defunct by all accounts in Thailand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertthebruce Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Scruples.....ZERO..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtrnuno41 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 On 2-12-2017 at 7:06 PM, Just Weird said: You'll find that not only did the Red Bull heir not murder anyone and so wasn't charged with murdering anyone but he couldn't get any kind of sentence because his case hasn't been to court yet. Over and over again it's shown in many countries, law is not straight, you can bend it if you are rich. Not only Thailand, aswell USA, Holland, Suriname and many more. In the case of rb heir, they didnt arrest him, decided on top level. Matter of money. They gave him the change to get away, same as with former prime ministers. Well family of police officer happy , as they received just $ 100000, probably husband (papa?) wasnt worth that much. Nowadays it isnt just weird, but common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hashmodha Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 It's nonsense they never carry it out for even child rapists and murderers. Therefore it's more 'face saving' with little substance.Passing sentences is show time..implementation will never be heard by us again...Sent from my HUAWEI LUA-L21 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 On 12/3/2017 at 12:19 AM, Morch said: There was a detailed account of his "career", movements and whereabouts on the previous topic (some months back). Couldn't be bothered to look it up, a bit late, and perhaps a Rusty Nail or two too many, so might have mixed up up some details: He was a criminal in Israel, imprisoned, did a runner, ended up in Thailand (that was years ago), and was involved in crime here as well (murder and hiding the body, think more related to the latter). Kicked back to Israel, imprisoned again, turned informant in some drug case, released and headed back to Thailand (about 2-3 years ago). Then the OP, still imprisoned in Thailand. As to how he got into the country first time around, fake ID (and/or immigration control issues). As to how he got in country the second time considering his record, I think it was, at least in part, a give and take between respective police forces. Sounds like words with no evidence easy to call someone a police informa with no back up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 hour ago, BigC said: Sounds like words with no evidence easy to call someone a police informa with no back up It's easy to make spurious claims without checking. His record and past deeds were covered, in detail, on quite a few articles. Some of these were cited on related topics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurkAussie Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 On 02/12/2017 at 12:35 PM, CARBO said: Seems fair to me. There is no fair punishment for a murderer! If you kill him then your a murderer too, if you torture him then your inhumane! Mans this is where I get a little old school , in cases where the murder is proven without a doubt such as this, the punishment should come from the family of the murdered and the title of “human” be stricken from the convicted, therefore any punishment prescribed by the family may be implemented by the family including forced Slavery, but like I said I’m a bit old school in some ways and I know they will never come to pass, but how you you compensate a family from the financial loss of a family member? Enslave the murderer in a capacity where that person can replace the financial loss , even if that means being an asswhore!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyg Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 9 hours ago, TurkAussie said: There is no fair punishment for a murderer! If you kill him then your a murderer too, if you torture him then your inhumane! Mans this is where I get a little old school , in cases where the murder is proven without a doubt such as this, the punishment should come from the family of the murdered and the title of “human” be stricken from the convicted, therefore any punishment prescribed by the family may be implemented by the family including forced Slavery, but like I said I’m a bit old school in some ways and I know they will never come to pass, but how you you compensate a family from the financial loss of a family member? Enslave the murderer in a capacity where that person can replace the financial loss , even if that means being an asswhore!!! That is an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 10 hours ago, TurkAussie said: There is no fair punishment for a murderer! If you kill him then your a murderer too, if you torture him then your inhumane! Mans this is where I get a little old school , in cases where the murder is proven without a doubt such as this, the punishment should come from the family of the murdered and the title of “human” be stricken from the convicted, therefore any punishment prescribed by the family may be implemented by the family including forced Slavery, but like I said I’m a bit old school in some ways and I know they will never come to pass, but how you you compensate a family from the financial loss of a family member? Enslave the murderer in a capacity where that person can replace the financial loss , even if that means being an asswhore!!! Good sentiment , but in reality it wouldnt work . For example , if a Thai killed a rich old felang , his Family may decide that the correct punishment will be a 100 000 Baht reward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurkAussie Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 On 06/02/2018 at 2:49 PM, sanemax said: Good sentiment , but in reality it wouldnt work . For example , if a Thai killed a rich old felang , his Family may decide that the correct punishment will be a 100 000 Baht reward I do see how this may be a dillema , but getting it passed the senate and ok’ing it through the Geneva convention might be the first hurdles my way of thinking would have to face , I’d say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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