Blacklisted! Advice needed

[Joe UK]

I was blacklisted from TH for a year following a visa overstay. I am now in a nearby country, but really need to get back into TH to support my wife & kid. 

Any advice on how to get the blacklist cleared and return to TH in the short term? I know I will have to pay, but I am looking for the right well-connected contacts to help my case. 

 

Kindly spare me the comments about how irresponsible I was, I do know that, I am looking for a constructive solution. 

 

Thanks in advance. 

[Get Real]

This is like people always answer in a lot of threads before, always very hard. The question is how long time ago it was that you got blacklisted. Your best choice as I see it would be to stay a year away, support your wife and kid economically and later come back. I know that might hurt, but I guess it´s the economy that needs most of your support.

If you anyway want to try and get your blacklisting cleared, there are no safe and sure ways to get a fixer or well connected person to help you out of the ordinary preceedings. Here you will have to find a good lawyer that specializes in the area, and go through the court system. Here there are still no guarantees and mostly the people that works with this wants a sum up front for taking the case, and after that people have not got any results at all. Maybe somebody else have a better idé for you, but that´s the view I´ve got on the matter.

[anon789561]

I think the problem that you have finding those well connected people. You are setting yourself up to be conned potentially out of a lot of money by someone who claims to be well connected but who may in fact not be and is just after your money. A good lawyer would be the way to go but this would be seriously expensive and I suspect the process would also take quite a long time. This is just my opinion and I hope you find a better solution, but you say you want to support your wife and kid. A year really isn't a long time and i know that is easy for me to say and certainly not what you are feeling. i just think that the money it would cost to 'attempt' to remove the blacklist might be better spent on supporting your wife and kid and they can visit you easily as you are in a neighboring country. i reckon to go through the legal route of removing the blacklist would take at least 6 months and cost at least a million baht anyway (no fact in those figures just guessing). see what others say later but i suspect they will be suggesting something similar, to hold out. Anyway, i wish you the best mate.

[saakura]

My advise is to stay away for a year. Dont get involved with touts, it may worsen your problem and you may lose whatever money you have.

[BritTim]

As others have said, there is no possibility of resolving this without going to great expense with no guarantees of success. If willing to use fixers, it probably would have been possible to avoid the blacklisting before it was applied. Now, there are very few people with the power to remove the blacklisting, which must be somehow treated as having been applied in error.

 

I am sure this is very painful for you and your family, but unless you can afford to risk US$10,000+, hoping a fixer will be able to deliver, resign yourself to waiting this out. If you are currently in a nearby country, you should be able to arrange to have your family visit.

[Briggsy]

"To support your wife & kid" you are able to send money internationally to Thailand through the banking system.

 

In order to see them, you can ask them to travel to the "nearby country" where you are and you can see them there. Perhaps your wife may consider relocating to the "nearby country" for a year.

 

Otherwise, use this opportunity to earn as much as you can in the UK where you are presumably from. For instance, there is lots of farm work particularly in Kent. They always need workers. Then, when the year is up, you can support them to a greater extent.

 

Good luck.

[tonray]

You can teach English in neighboring country, live like your skint and send as much monthly as you can to your wife and kid. Monthly they can arrange a quick visit to maintain family unity. Sorry to see you in this situation but when life throws you lemons....

[Lite Beer]

Maybe you should have thought about your wife and kid before breaking the law.

Wait out your ban and learn from it.

Send them money from abroad.

[George Bowman]

My advice is to wait it out. With the current government in place, I have seen corruption being addressed here locally. Something I have not ever seen before. People seem to be a bit more hesitant about circumventing the law. 

 

The OP's story is just another reminder to me, what could happen, if I don't jump through the hoops when needed.

[007 RED]

OP… I would endorse the sentiments and advice given by some of the previous posters.  I appreciate that it must be very hard for both you, and your family, to be separated and it’s certainly not a situation I would wish to find myself in.

 

Unfortunately, your chances of having the ban for overstay overturned are going to be extremely remote.  Sorry to say, but there are lots of so called fixers and lawyers out there who will tell you that they have connections in high places and can arrange for your ban to be expunged.  In reality, they will ‘string’ you along for as long as they can with lots of excuses and not come up with the good at the end of the day.  All you will be left with is a seriously large bill.  Remember, if you don’t pay the bill it highly likely that legal action (or worse) will be waiting for you when you do return.

 

No doubt someone will come on the forum and tell you that a mate of their mate got banned and had it overturned.  I would treat such comments as barstool talk.  It just does not happen.

 

As others have suggested, you would do best to ‘bite the bullet’.  Use the money to support your family and perhaps arrange for them to visit you in a neighbouring country.

 

Best of luck.

[OJAS]

6 hours ago, Joe UK said:

Any advice on how to get the blacklist cleared and return to TH in the short term? I know I will have to pay, but I am looking for the right well-connected contacts to help my case

How long has your ban got left to run?

 

Even if you were able to enlist the assistance of well-connected individuals to get your blacklist cleared, the wheels aimed at achieving this end would in all probability still turn so slowly that your ban might well have expired in the natural course of things by the time the process had reached its conclusion one way or the other.

 

In any case, there is no cast-iron guarantee that these well-connected individuals would deliver your desired outcome despite your remunerating them handsomely on the strength of promises which turned out to be hollow!

Edited December 27, 2017 by OJAS

[Rhys]

Seems you are going to have to bite the bullet... Work on getting support to your family.

[Raymonddiaz]

Go back to your home country and then get a name change and a new passport.....I guess that's the best solution. also get 20k in case they ask you.

[sirmud63]

there is a visa agent in chaing mai that i just saw advertising on face book for overstay/black ban reversals . PM me and ill give you his name .

Edited December 27, 2017 by sirmud63

[mitsubishi]

If it's any consolation a friend of mine got visa banned for 5 yrs over something much more trivial than an overstay (this wasn't LOS either) so chin up and good luck.

[jacko45k]

Joe I do hope you are not considering something naughty, haven't we learned?

Apart from sitting out the term, or getting your wife and kid to move near the border.

Other than that I would worry a lawyer would take you for a ride.

[Joe UK]

Thanks for your comments everyone, really appreciate the advice. 

[Ron19]

A flame post has been removed.

[holy cow cm]

How long is the ban? That might give you more of a sense if doable or not doable 

We all signed papers at immigration saying that we won't overstay. Well most have.

[Stevemercer]

I haven't heard/read about anyone overturning a blacklist to date?

 

You can go through the courts, on hardship grounds, but this would probably take over a year. 

 

Can your family visit you, every now and then, if you meet them in a neighbouring country?

[German farang]

9 hours ago, tonray said:

You can teach English in neighboring country, live like your skint and send as much monthly as you can to your wife and kid. Monthly they can arrange a quick visit to maintain family unity. Sorry to see you in this situation but when life throws you lemons....

Native english speakers are well payed in Vietnam & Laos, even you don't have an degree.

[stevenl]

6 hours ago, Raymonddiaz said:

Go back to your home country and then get a name change and a new passport.....I guess that's the best solution. also get 20k in case they ask you.

And after that jump through hoops here to get the name of wife and kid changed as well.

 

I would not recommend this.

[Koratjohn77]

Joe UK if you don't mind me asking what happened how did you end up in that situation?  What kind of visa were you on?  I'm really sorry to hear that this has happened to you.  I don't know if they can help or not but I know of a damn good visa agency in Bangkok called TSL.  The only contact phone number I can find at the moment is for Korn one of the employees his number is 089-819-9930.  Ask to speak with David Lam he runs the company.  Every time I have used them just for basic services only they have always been very honest with me.  Although I don't know anything about how to deal with an overstay situation and I never plan on finding out unless some unforeseen circumstances occur God forbid.  Sorry to hear about that I don't know if TSL can help you but I'm sure they can at least probably tell you who to contact who's honest or at least point you in the right direction.  All I've ever used them for is basic visa extension services nothing like this but they're really good maybe they can help you.  Good luck and I hope you're able to get back in the country soon.  Again their contact phone number is 089-819-9930 and that's TSL in Bangkok.  

[SiSePuede419]

9 hours ago, Lite Beer said:

Maybe you should have thought about your wife and kid before breaking the law.

Wait out your ban and learn from it.

Send them money from abroad.

Isn't it strange that criminals aren't interested in "constructive solutions" before they're caught, only after?

 

It's called the School of Hard Knocks, Mate.

 

If you can't learn from people smarter than yourself, you're in for a few "hard knocks".

 

Wake up.  No one forced you to overstay.  That was your decision, over and over again. ?

[Joe UK]

29 minutes ago, Koratjohn77 said:

Joe UK if you don't mind me asking what happened how did you end up in that situation?  What kind of visa were you on?  I'm really sorry to hear that this has happened to you.  I don't know if they can help or not but I know of a damn good visa agency in Bangkok called TSL.  The only contact phone number I can find at the moment is for Korn one of the employees his number is 089-819-9930.  Ask to speak with David Lam he runs the company.  Every time I have used them just for basic services only they have always been very honest with me.  Although I don't know anything about how to deal with an overstay situation and I never plan on finding out unless some unforeseen circumstances occur God forbid.  Sorry to hear about that I don't know if TSL can help you but I'm sure they can at least probably tell you who to contact who's honest or at least point you in the right direction.  All I've ever used them for is basic visa extension services nothing like this but they're really good maybe they can help you.  Good luck and I hope you're able to get back in the country soon.  Again their contact phone number is 089-819-9930 and that's TSL in Bangkok.  

Thank you very nuch, John. I will talk to them. Cheers. 

[bkk6060]

You broke the law.

I have no sympathy for those who do this.  They just make it much harder for us who obey the rules and follow the law.

 

You can send your family money without being here.  I am sure they can come visit you.

 

Figure it out and good luck.

 

 

[fuzzie]

Joe Your overstay,? were you caught by the Immigration,

[thaibreaker]

10 hours ago, Raymonddiaz said:

Go back to your home country and then get a name change and a new passport.....I guess that's the best solution. also get 20k in case they ask you.

I have a friend who was given that actual advice from the immigration officer at Suvarnabhumi, when he left the country with a 3 years ban, and just over a year overstay. He asked if there was any way to get around it, because of wife and kids.

 

Not sure what happened later, this was just a few weeks ago, if he did just that, but it was a strange suggestion from the officer himself.

[gandalf12]

Maybe I missed it but I didn't read why he was blacklisted for a year. Presumably he overstayed by a significant amount of time.

Be interesting to know how this all came about

[ubonjoe]

A inflammatory off topic post and the expected replies it have been removed.