British man arrested over death of bar girl in Pattaya

[TheFishman1]

Everyone thinks he guilty with the balcony railing so low  maybe she just fell but him not being Thai well he is done TIT

[sammieuk1]

Looks like his next hotel room will be a lot smaller and running will make his story look just that a story guilty or not .

[thaiguzzi]

32 minutes ago, cardinalblue said:

premature speculation

Mmm, that's a new one on me...

[Torfinn Sporkland]

How on earth is it possible to fell over the railings whilst doing it,.. I mean it could happen,.. but that so extremely unlikely. 

[mauGR1]

17 minutes ago, impulse said:

Someone help me out here.  Where does it say he took viagra?

 

In the first report i read yesterday, there was mention of some viagra or similar found on the scene, i think.

That's a very sad story, it could have been just an accident, but this guy is in deep trouble.

May the poor girl rest in peace.

[catman20]

1 hour ago, Jeremy50 said:

Why would a 26yo man need to be anywhere near bargirls [prostitutes], and on Viagra too? Poor girl probably refused unreasonable sexual demands and things deteriorated from there,[ it's amazing how fast the 'girlfriend experience' can turn nasty], violence resulted, girl gets thrown off balcony. If this is the case I hope he gets 50years in Bang Kwang. 

agree with your first points with pros and Viagra then you became judge jury and executioner.

[johnnyonesock]

more than likely an accident due to alcohol and a low balcony but running from the scene is plain stupidity and shows a lack of empathy...i suppose the fight or flight syndrome kicked in and the fool chose the latter

[Guderian]

Somebody must scent money or else it would be an open-and-shut suicide verdict!

[catman20]

35 minutes ago, Torfinn Sporkland said:

How on earth is it possible to fell over the railings whilst doing it,.. I mean it could happen,.. but that so extremely unlikely. 

not if she was sitting on the edge of the balcony she could easily slip over the edge, sounds like you have limited experience.

Edited January 8, 2018 by catman20

[BigC]

Arrested because he left the scene 

[kcpattaya]

Pretty stupid to leave the scene - guilty or not.

 

[cyberfarang]

1 hour ago, 4MyEgo said:

What a dog of a man, just left, no call for help, an ambulance perhaps, he was stressed and decided to leave, yeh right, looks more like you through her off the balcony now, doesn't it sunshine 555.

 

What did you think, if I leave, she might get back up, dog, life in prison !!!

And it`s people like you with your the obvious must be the fact that will mean the English guy will be assumed guilty to be proved innocent.

 

If I had been in his situation I`d probably had done a runner too, rather then have to face being a number one murder suspect. Sadly unless there is any CCT footage of what happened and I very much doubt there will be, then the guy may be facing months of jail time while under arrest, court attendances, maybe legal fees and media attention until if and when he is proved innocent. I feel sorry for the poor sod.

Edited January 8, 2018 by cyberfarang

[DipStick]

1 hour ago, Jeremy50 said:

Why would a 26yo man need to be anywhere near bargirls [prostitutes], and on Viagra too? Poor girl probably refused unreasonable sexual demands and things deteriorated from there,[ it's amazing how fast the 'girlfriend experience' can turn nasty], violence resulted, girl gets thrown off balcony. If this is the case I hope he gets 50years in Bang Kwang. 

Can you direct me to the page and post that mentions viagra

[Pattaya46]

6 minutes ago, cyberfarang said:

// until if and when he is proved innocent. I feel sorry for the poor sod.

 

How could he be innocent ?

In "best case" he would be guilty of reckless homicide.  (IMHO )

Edited January 8, 2018 by Pattaya46

[farcanell]

8 minutes ago, BigC said:

Arrested because he left the scene 

In Thailand?

 

scene fleeing is seemingly normal and allowable.... 

[hansnl]

1 hour ago, sanemax said:

I dont think there would have been any difference as to whether which Nationality he was 

You think so?

[catman20]

53 minutes ago, balo said:

Why will anyone defend a coward who runs away from the scene ? If he was innocent and it was an accident he would have called for help. But no he ran away, guilty in my book.

i hear what your saying, but here in Thailand i think its very hard to make the right decision that you might make in your own country  until your in a similar Poisson to him, but i hope none of us ever are. RIP

[farcanell]

1 minute ago, Pattaya46 said:

 

How could he be innocent ?

In "best case" he would be guilty of reckless homicide.  (IMHO )

OTT..... “best case”, the court / coroner/ bribe recipient/ will find this to be death by misadventure and dismiss the case

 

Worst case?... I doubt homicide would be mentioned... but ok... worst case negligent manslaughter

 

but then, charges are different in this country... and... it is this country...

so, who knows

[Pattaya46]

10 minutes ago, DipStick said:

Can you direct me to the page and post that mentions Viagra

 

On this video at 01:18

(BTW not Viagra but Kamagra)

Edited January 8, 2018 by Pattaya46

[bananafish]

1 hour ago, Jeremy50 said:

Why would a 26yo man need to be anywhere near bargirls [prostitutes], and on Viagra too? Poor girl probably refused unreasonable sexual demands and things deteriorated from there,[ it's amazing how fast the 'girlfriend experience' can turn nasty], violence resulted, girl gets thrown off balcony. If this is the case I hope he gets 50years in Bang Kwang. 

Why would a 26yo man not go near bargirls [easy sex] and viagra [easy better erection]? 

[Radar501]

I would be skeptical of the integrity of any police investigation into this accident/suicide/homicide.

 

Panic and a confused state of mind causes individuals to do illogical things.  I can somewhat understand if Mr Vella did a runner from the scene, but if so, strange that he didn't get the hell out of Dodge City altogether.

 

Here's hoping that justice prevails in this case, whatever the circumstances were.

 

[Easy Come Easy Go]

1 hour ago, 2008bangkok said:

Running makes you look guilty. That's for sure.

Here's the thing though, IF they were having sex and she fell through accident, and he then went to the authorities, would they believe him? If you were in the situation where you were his age, having a good time and the girl you were having sex with fell from the balcony, would you turn yourself into the hands of the RTP? I know I wouldn't because most likely they'd eat you alive even if you were innocent. Your farang word against their native tongue. 
IF he is innocent, he should have called an ambulance and then skipped country or something. 

[dangermouse]

Likely scenarios....they argued he pushed her...she jumped...she accidently fell when having sex sitting on balcony...

Fact is he knew she fell...he left her to die...he says he was distraught....so much he checked into a spa hotel...then got picked up having a beer in a bar.

Real caring guy..

[impulse]

34 minutes ago, kcpattaya said:

Pretty stupid to leave the scene - guilty or not.

 

What was stupid is stopping before he got across a friendly border.  Into a country that acknowledges the weakness and inherent corruption of the Thai judicial system.  Then turning himself in.

 

[smotherb]

2 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

What a dog of a man, just left, no call for help, an ambulance perhaps, he was stressed and decided to leave, yeh right, looks more like you through her off the balcony now, doesn't it sunshine 555.

 

What did you think, if I leave, she might get back up, dog, life in prison !!!

Well, was he drunk? If so, he was just a lad, and after having a couple just couldn't think straight.

[4MyEgo]

47 minutes ago, cyberfarang said:

And it`s people like you with your the obvious must be the fact that will mean the English guy will be assumed guilty to be proved innocent.

 

If I had been in his situation I`d probably had done a runner too, rather then have to face being a number one murder suspect. Sadly unless there is any CCT footage of what happened and I very much doubt there will be, then the guy may be facing months of jail time while under arrest, court attendances, maybe legal fees and media attention until if and when he is proved innocent. I feel sorry for the poor sod.

Feel sorry for the lad, that's your prerogative, while I feel sorry for the girl's family, you know the girl he says he was banging on the balcony, where she allegedly fell to her death, while he walked off stressed, no doubt saying to himself OMG, I wonder if she is alive, OMG, I wonder should I have called an ambulance, nah, what for, they will think she fell off someone else's balcony, she just a hooker, a piece of meat, she is just a working girl, extracting dollars off of me to make a living to feed her family.

 

Regardless of what will transpire, a human being fell off a balcony and died, to walk away from that, regardless of what or how cold blooded you are, speaks for itself, one must always render some kind of help, but then again, people like yourself and your mate behind bars only think of themselves, don't they, talk about low life's !

 

[Tradewind777]

The number of people launched off balconies in Pattaya is a staggering figure. This is one more. RIP.

[mikiea]

2 hours ago, sanemax said:

I dont think there would have been any difference as to whether which Nationality he was 

please ,  delusion has no  part in this sad tale .

[DipStick]

1 hour ago, Jeremy50 said:

Why would a 26yo man need to be anywhere near bargirls [prostitutes], and on Viagra too? Poor girl probably refused unreasonable sexual demands and things deteriorated from there,[ it's amazing how fast the 'girlfriend experience' can turn nasty], violence resulted, girl gets thrown off balcony. If this is the case I hope he gets 50years in Bang Kwang. 

 

1 hour ago, Lingba said:

He's toast!

Sad as  this case is, he may not be toast, this because if there were no witnesses or CCTV coverage, then what proof could the police produce to convict him, whether it be murder, manslaughter or at the least, accidental death.

unlike a lot of posters on this forum, I don't get involved with speculation, the facts will come out in due course. Is it not likely that if he was directly involved with this death, he would have cleaned the room of evidence such as used condoms etc and hightailed it to Swampy instead of another close by resort.

up to now, the only concrete  claim against him is the fact that he fled the scene, but that could be because of shock and panic and it's likely a lot of people would have done the same. Of course if it turns out he is married with a family back in Th UK, for sure he is toast.

 

[mikiea]

his name .... anyone mention it ?