Why Doesnt "Me Too" Apply to Democrats?

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UK PM May's lawmakers considering coup if local elections go badly - Guardian

 

Britain's Prime Minister Theresa May addresses a speech during the World Economic Forum (WEF) annual meeting in Davos, Switzerland January 25, 2018. REUTERS/Denis Balibouse

 

LONDON (Reuters) - Lawmakers in British Prime Minister Theresa May's Conservative Party are considering another attempt to oust her if the local elections go badly in May, the Guardian reported.

 

The newspaper said lawmakers were growing increasingly frustrated with what they saw as a lack of ideas coming from the government, and criticised a botched reshuffle and a changing strategy on Brexit.

 

It cited one former minister as saying May would be vulnerable after the local elections in May if they go badly.

 

"She's on very thin ice," the newspaper quoted one unidentified lawmaker as saying.

 

(Reporting by Guy Faulconbridge; editing by Kate Holton)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-01-26

[baboon]

Yes, she's hopeless, but why would anyone else want to take up the poisoned chalice when they can let her carry the can for the Brexit pig's breakfast? 

[Cherjam]

The sooner, Scotland is free from this auld biddy, the better

[DoctorG]

5 hours ago, Cherjam said:

The sooner, Scotland is free from this auld biddy, the better

Yes, but you have your very own idiot.

[Scott]

Please keep the discussion civil.  

[the guest]

Hopefully the British will have the good sense of having another referendum. This time knowing all the facts, rather than a prime idiot promoting a red-bus campaign. They cannot survive without the EU.

[SheungWan]

Remove May and whoever steps in is just keeping the seat warm for Corbyn. I wouldn't put it past them to do it though. The hard brexiteers still spitting blood for the Government having cut the first stage agreement with the EU whatever their pretences otherwise. Maybe they would prefer a second rater like the excrutiatingly embarrassing David Davis to lead them down the proverbial plughole.

[nauseus]

9 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

Remove May and whoever steps in is just keeping the seat warm for Corbyn. I wouldn't put it past them to do it though. The hard brexiteers still spitting blood for the Government having cut the first stage agreement with the EU whatever their pretences otherwise. Maybe they would prefer a second rater like the excrutiatingly embarrassing David Davis to lead them down the proverbial plughole.

Hope you were wearing a bib when you wrote this dribble.

[nauseus]

55 minutes ago, the guest said:

Hopefully the British will have the good sense of having another referendum. This time knowing all the facts, rather than a prime idiot promoting a red-bus campaign. They cannot survive without the EU.

'Good sense of having another referendum' - sounds like the old EU backup line when referendum results don't go their way! 

[RuamRudy]

14 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

Remove May and whoever steps in is just keeping the seat warm for Corbyn. I wouldn't put it past them to do it though. The hard brexiteers still spitting blood for the Government having cut the first stage agreement with the EU whatever their pretences otherwise. Maybe they would prefer a second rater like the excrutiatingly embarrassing David Davis to lead them down the proverbial plughole.

Or maybe they are happy to lose a snap election to Corbyn, let him lead us out of Europe and therefore cop the blame for the resulting fall-out, then push him aside as the Tories proclaim that they are the only party equipped to lead us out of the mire and return us to the glorious days of the empire?

[roquefort]

5 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Hope you were wearing a bib when you wrote this dribble.

I think you mean drivel, but the threat of a Corbyn government is a very real one. He may well get the chance to turn Britain into a socialist paradise/failed state, like the Venezuela of his idol, Hugo Chavez.

[RuamRudy]

1 hour ago, roquefort said:

I think you mean drivel, but the threat of a Corbyn government is a very real one. He may well get the chance to turn Britain into a socialist paradise/failed state, like the Venezuela of his idol, Hugo Chavez.

While I am not going to suggest that Corbyn is the answer to our problems, the neo-liberal ideology of successive Tory and faux Labour governments has led us to the point where inequality in our country has never been greater; our public institutions are being allowed to fall apart around us as a precursor to privatisation; record numbers of homeless people line the streets of our towns and cities; record low wage growth for the many and, for the first time, the very real prospect that our children will be poorer than we are now. You may not like Corbyn, but a vote for the Tories is an endorsement of all the above and more. You are voting for your children and their children to be poorer than you are now.

[robertson468]

1 hour ago, roquefort said:

I think you mean drivel, but the threat of a Corbyn government is a very real one. He may well get the chance to turn Britain into a socialist paradise/failed state, like the Venezuela of his idol, Hugo Chavez.

If Corby gets elected and becomes Prime Minister, I will leave the UK.........oh sorry I have already left, just in case.  Now happily living under pseudo military rule.

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, roquefort said:

I think you mean drivel, but the threat of a Corbyn government is a very real one. He may well get the chance to turn Britain into a socialist paradise/failed state, like the Venezuela of his idol, Hugo Chavez.

Dribble for the last bit. Drivel for the first bit. Sorry. 

[roquefort]

15 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

While I am not going to suggest that Corbyn is the answer to our problems, the neo-liberal ideology of successive Tory and faux Labour governments has led us to the point where inequality in our country has never been greater; our public institutions are being allowed to fall apart around us as a precursor to privatisation; record numbers of homeless people line the streets of our towns and cities; record low wage growth for the many and, for the first time, the very real prospect that our children will be poorer than we are now. You may not like Corbyn, but a vote for the Tories is an endorsement of all the above and more. You are voting for your children and their children to be poorer than you are now.

I would agree with you that the current Tory government are the most incompetent bunch of politicians the UK has had in the last 50 years. However, it's going to be a choice between bad and worse...........much, much worse. There are no alternatives on the table at the moment, unless a UK version of Macron suddenly appears from nowhere and reboots the whole system.

[RuamRudy]

2 minutes ago, roquefort said:

I would agree with you that the current Tory government are the most incompetent bunch of politicians the UK has had in the last 50 years. However, it's going to be a choice between bad and worse...........much, much worse. There are no alternatives on the table at the moment, unless a UK version of Macron suddenly appears from nowhere and reboots the whole system.

Incompetent, sure, but that is in their execution of Brexit. The situation I described above is not the result of incompetence but of an insidious neo-liberal ideology that has been in place since the days of Thatcher. The NHS, social security, the prison service, policing, schooling and every other vestige of the state are being prepared to be privatised. At the same time, the government and their supporters are lining themselves up to take full personal advantage of their efforts while the majority of the country are oblivious to what is going on around them.

 

I have absolutely no doubts that what I described will come to reality before too long if we keep the tories in power. So, from my perspective, we have a choice between the certain destruction of the institutions that have defined our British sense of equality and compassion, or a possible leap into the unknown. I.e. guaranteed sh!t for our progeny, or the possible emergence of a truly equitable and fair path for us to follow. 

[dick dasterdly]

20 hours ago, baboon said:

Yes, she's hopeless, but why would anyone else want to take up the poisoned chalice when they can let her carry the can for the Brexit pig's breakfast? 

"why would anyone else want to take up the poisoned chalice when they can let her carry the can"

 

And that pretty much sums up the argument against this article.  It would take a seriously stupid Conservative politician to seek to take over from May at this point!

[BigC]

20 hours ago, baboon said:

Yes, she's hopeless, but why would anyone else want to take up the poisoned chalice when they can let her carry the can for the Brexit pig's breakfast? 

How can we have a remainer in charge of leaving 

 

doesn’t make sense

 

candidited that should be nominiated must be leavers 

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, roquefort said:

I would agree with you that the current Tory government are the most incompetent bunch of politicians the UK has had in the last 50 years. However, it's going to be a choice between bad and worse...........much, much worse. There are no alternatives on the table at the moment, unless a UK version of Macron suddenly appears from nowhere and reboots the whole system.

Disagree. The Labour shadow cabinet have to be the most useless set of goons in 50 years. Present gov gets 2nd place though.  

[Baerboxer]

11 hours ago, Cherjam said:

The sooner, Scotland is free from this auld biddy, the better

 

The sooner the UK is free from her the better. Of which Scotland is still and integral part.

 

Although a minority want Scotland to leave the UK so Nippy can fulfill her dream of being a "world leader - 555" and hand control over to Brussels at the earliest opportunity.

[Baerboxer]

51 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Disagree. The Labour shadow cabinet have to be the most useless set of goons in 50 years. Present gov gets 2nd place though.  

 

Agree with you. Close call, very close call, but you made it right!

[dunroaming]

2 hours ago, dick dasterdly said:

"why would anyone else want to take up the poisoned chalice when they can let her carry the can"

 

And that pretty much sums up the argument against this article.  It would take a seriously stupid Conservative politician to seek to take over from May at this point!

That's pretty much been my view up to now but!  I am sure that JRM is having talks behind the scenes and weighing up whether a challenge is viable.  There is a possibility that a hardline pro-leave group of politicians (probably led by Rees Mogg) would want a crack now that they can see that May and Davis are backtracking on a daily basis.  The aim would be to push ahead with their little Britain mentality and end up walking away from the EU with nothing.

 

So the question then would be "who would be best to be PM out of JRM or Corbyn?".  That really would be scary thought!  Given that threat I think we should hope that May keeps her role for now.

[SheungWan]

7 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

Or maybe they are happy to lose a snap election to Corbyn, let him lead us out of Europe and therefore cop the blame for the resulting fall-out, then push him aside as the Tories proclaim that they are the only party equipped to lead us out of the mire and return us to the glorious days of the empire?

A little bit too far-fetched for me I am afraid.

[RuamRudy]

2 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

A little bit too far-fetched for me I am afraid.

Maybe I have been watching too much House of Cards...

[SheungWan]

2 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

Maybe I have been watching too much House of Cards...

They are not that smart.

[dunroaming]

52 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

A little bit too far-fetched for me I am afraid.

I would say the same but in a world where Trump can be President of the USA, all bets are off!

[Orac]

3 hours ago, dunroaming said:

That's pretty much been my view up to now but!  I am sure that JRM is having talks behind the scenes and weighing up whether a challenge is viable.  There is a possibility that a hardline pro-leave group of politicians (probably led by Rees Mogg) would want a crack now that they can see that May and Davis are backtracking on a daily basis.  The aim would be to push ahead with their little Britain mentality and end up walking away from the EU with nothing.

 

So the question then would be "who would be best to be PM out of JRM or Corbyn?".  That really would be scary thought!  Given that threat I think we should hope that May keeps her role for now.

 

Also worth  noting that Aaron Banks, the money man behind LeaveEU and big player behind the scenes of UKIP, has appealed to his followers to ditch UKIP and join the Tories to help the hard brexiteers out.

[dunroaming]

11 minutes ago, Orac said:

 

Also worth  noting that Aaron Banks, the money man behind LeaveEU and big player behind the scenes of UKIP, has appealed to his followers to ditch UKIP and join the Tories to help the hard brexiteers out.

Yes. I think that UKIP is a dead party walking and it is only a matter of time.  However I did say that about May

[dick dasterdly]

16 hours ago, dunroaming said:

Yes. I think that UKIP is a dead party walking and it is only a matter of time.  However I did say that about May

It depends on whether or not brexit turns out to be nothing of the sort - which would likely lead to UKIP being resurrected.

[steve187]

On 1/27/2018 at 3:48 AM, Cherjam said:

The sooner, Scotland is free from this auld biddy, the better

rebuild Hadrian wall, with a one way turnstile like they had on the exits at lido's

 

 

who does this remind you of,  not a PM i believe

Edited January 28, 2018 by steve187