Jingthing Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, heybruce said: Unfortunately the Trump base would still support him. They don't care about the constitution (except the Second Amendment), look how easy it was for Trump to turn them against the First Amendment. Yes his hard core base would accept anything from their demagogue clown but then the question is just how large is that base? A big difference between 30 and 45 percent. Personally I don't know how large it is but it's clearly under the majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 I don't believe that "trump" can get to Mueller as far as corrupting him but I do believe he could manage to fire him if he decides that's his best option. But that would be admitting guilt and would at the very least create a large political problem not just for "trump" but his complicit republican party. Firing Mueller would do nothing to stop the investigation.He could order the investigation shut down, which makes him look bad as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, heybruce said: Clearly Mueller's probe is guided by law, not emotion. If a case is made for impeachment, it will be based on law and the constitution. Mueller won't make a case for impeachment either way. He'll simply present his findings and they will be very credible and well documented and send it to the Assistant Attorney General (as things stand now with the Attorney General recused). Presumably that report gets to the house. From there, it isn't really a legal process as in a regular court of law. It becomes a POLITICAL process but the severity of the findings can make a difference, especially if the democrats take over in November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, mogandave said: Firing Mueller would do nothing to stop the investigation. He could order the investigation shut down, which makes him look bad as well. It's hard to say. Firing Mueller would put the U.S. into very untested waters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stud858 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Sorry to be a little off topic,but I was thinking if someone were to have the sole responsibility about deciding on Trump, who would it be. A ruler of the whole world so to speak. My choice would be David Suzuki. A very clever and ethical person in my view. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Suzuki I'm not sure on his view on Trump though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Sorry to be a little off topic,but I was thinking if someone were to have the sole responsibility about deciding on Trump, who would it be. A ruler of the whole world so to speak. My choice would be David Suzuki. A very clever and ethical person in my view. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Suzuki I'm not sure on his view on Trump though. Deciding what about tRrump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stud858 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 39 minutes ago, mogandave said: Deciding what about tRrump? If he is fit or unfit to be the big boss of the U.S. Just a dream of mine to have a ruler of the world being the judge jury and executioner all in one. Kind of like a God. Because I can't see a real God. We should create our own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Becker Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Who knew!!!: https://www.yahoo.com/news/report-trump-commission-did-not-widespread-voter-fraud-205624433--election.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulfsailor Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 1 hour ago, stud858 said: If he is fit or unfit to be the big boss of the U.S. Just a dream of mine to have a ruler of the world being the judge jury and executioner all in one. Kind of like a God. Because I can't see a real God. We should create our own. Trump fully agrees with you on this. He just has a different person in mind to fulfill such role... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Gulfsailor said: Trump fully agrees with you on this. He just has a different person in mind to fulfill such role... Sean Hannity? ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Carl Bernstein is always worth listening to on matters of criminally corrupt presidents. Worse than Watergate, he says. Quote Veteran journalist Carl Bernstein says the Trump presidency is worse than Watergate because Republicans are undermining the Mueller probe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 4 hours ago, stud858 said: If he is fit or unfit to be the big boss of the U.S. Just a dream of mine to have a ruler of the world being the judge jury and executioner all in one. Kind of like a God. Because I can't see a real God. We should create our own. Someone like Stalin or Mao you mean? Yikes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayned Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 16 hours ago, Jingthing said: Yes he throws people under the bus. Yes his ego is bizarre. But he's caved other times in the past as long as he can tell himself and his fans he's still the big winner somehow. Such as his failed casinos where he screwed everyone else but had a big payday for himself. What I'm saying is agree an impeachment plus conviction is highly unlikely but depending on what comes out a resignation with an ego boosting gimmick is hardly impossible. Sent from my Lenovo A7020a48 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app He's as close to being "King of the World" that he could ever hope for. I truly think that anybody that attempts to get in his way, including his immediate family, will end up with bus tire tracks all over their body. Hus mental instability has taken over completely and when he opens his mouth what comes out is what he thinks that the audience wants to here and will benefit him the most no matter if it's the truth or a lie. Just look at the debriefing that took place on the Russian meddling yesterday and 2 hours later he was spouting off that the "Russia thing is a Hoax" at a rally. He did it knowing full well it was a lie but also that he would motivate the rally with what he said rather than agreeing that Russia was involved and admitting that he was wrong. He couldn't even ignore the subject, he just can't help himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayned Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 An interesting article about Trump's mental state, you be the judge! http://uk.businessinsider.com/hare-psychopath-checklist-test-sociopath-2016-11/#2-do-you-have-a-grandiose-sense-of-self-worth-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 RUSSIA STOLE U.S. PRESIDENCY, PRO-KREMLIN POLITICIAN CLAIMS ON LIVE TV https://www.newsweek.com/russia-stole-us-presidency-claims-russian-politician-live-tv-663441 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 9 hours ago, wayned said: An interesting article about Trump's mental state, you be the judge! http://uk.businessinsider.com/hare-psychopath-checklist-test-sociopath-2016-11/#2-do-you-have-a-grandiose-sense-of-self-worth-2 I remember watching a BBC program about psycopaths about a year ago. It used a 20 point checklist to determine if someone was a psychopath. I applied the list to Trump and by any sane person's rationale he scored at least 75% which put him in the bracket of "dangerous psychopath". Do not let this man babysit your children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slip Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 45 minutes ago, Spidey said: I remember watching a BBC program about psycopaths about a year ago. It used a 20 point checklist to determine if someone was a psychopath. I applied the list to Trump and by any sane person's rationale he scored at least 75% which put him in the bracket of "dangerous psychopath". Do not let this man babysit your children. or your country... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thakkar Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 10 hours ago, Jingthing said: Ambiguous message that. The Russians in Thailand may often crack a smile at that. It's nice to own an American president. The Trump Tower meeting *was* about adoptions, as DT Jr said—it was about Putin adopting Trump! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bornredi Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Trump is the best president in modern American history just his handling of the economy alone is proof enough to support my premise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, bornredi said: Trump is the best president in modern American history just his handling of the economy alone is proof enough to support my premise Because the economy was on a downward trajectory before Trump assumed office? Trump supporters should acquaint themselves with the logical fallacy called "Post hoc ergo propter hoc". Which means "after this therefore because of this". In this case the "this" is Trump's accession to the Presidency. I will concede he has given the economy a short term boost thanks to massively increasing the deficit. And lots more soybeans were sold this year to beat the onset of tariffs, which may have temporarily boosed GDP by as much as one percent. But that means next year lots less will be sold. And he has partially rolled back regulations on banks and hedge funds. So we could be getting the same kind of stimulus the economy enjoyed under George W. Bush. You know, the one that ended in financial disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayned Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 10 hours ago, Spidey said: I remember watching a BBC program about psycopaths about a year ago. It used a 20 point checklist to determine if someone was a psychopath. I applied the list to Trump and by any sane person's rationale he scored at least 75% which put him in the bracket of "dangerous psychopath". Do not let this man babysit your children. I borrowed Alec Baldwin's Trump costume and took the test. I only scored 36 out of 40 and in true Trump style went back and corrected the answers that I did not get full credit for, so my score was 40 out of 40. I then scrolled down the page and connected to the link to determine is I was a Sadist. I scored 100% on the 9 questions asked. After I took the Trump disguise off and took a loong shower, I went back and reviewed the tests. It was only then that I realized that the LOWER the score on both tests was the best. 40 out of 40 on the Psychopath test and 100% on the Sadist test as a Trump surrogate. I guess he, or at least the surrogate, is a Sadistic Psychopath!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utalkin2me Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 THis is the second time, maybe the third but who is counting, that I have felt trump has really done it and is going down. The first time was with the pussy and grabbing audio recordings. That seemed to almost give him a boost. Whatever. It seems to me he will be going down for this new stuff, sooner or later. Even his own twitter feed seems to be against him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Some good news about the REAL news -- Quote Donald Trump’s attacks on the media may have backfired Trust in mainstream American newspapers has grown, even among conservatives https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2018/07/30/donald-trumps-attacks-on-the-media-may-have-backfired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, utalkin2me said: THis is the second time, maybe the third but who is counting, that I have felt trump has really done it and is going down. The first time was with the pussy and grabbing audio recordings. That seemed to almost give him a boost. Whatever. It seems to me he will be going down for this new stuff, sooner or later. Even his own twitter feed seems to be against him! Nothing he does or says shakes off his 35 - 40 percent hard core base. Stay tuned. It's not over yet. "Trump tweeted what?!? ... The notion that collusion with a hostile power is no big deal is so preposterous and unpalatable, you would think Republicans would not dare try to defend Trump on this point. But this crowd? They might just try it." https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2018/08/05/trump-tweeted-what/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 1 hour ago, bornredi said: Trump is the best president in modern American history just his handling of the economy alone is proof enough to support my premise If you measure the quality of a President by the performance of the economy, wouldn't that make Obama the best President in modern American history? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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utalkin2me Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Jingthing said: Nothing he does or says shakes off his 35 - 40 percent hard core base. Stay tuned. It's not over yet. "Trump tweeted what?!? ... The notion that collusion with a hostile power is no big deal is so preposterous and unpalatable, you would think Republicans would not dare try to defend Trump on this point. But this crowd? They might just try it." https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2018/08/05/trump-tweeted-what/ He seems to inch closer every day to implicating himself, to soften the blow or something. I think this is stick a fork in him stuff. I don't know when, but he is practically admitting on twitter he has been in contact with russians to alter and influence the presidential campaign. My read on this us he actually didn't think that getting together with russia was illegal at the time. What else explains why his story has changed so many times? He just thought, "this is war and I need to win" and went to russia, and thought nothing of it, like it was a real estate deal or something. It is plausible because we know he does not listen to anyone but his own ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebike Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 4 hours ago, bornredi said: Trump is the best president in modern American history just his handling of the economy alone is proof enough to support my premise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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