SURVEY: Do you want Trump to finish his first term?

[stud858]

4 hours ago, mcambl61 said:

I did not have sexual relations with that woman..

 

it depends on what your definition of is  is.....

 

get over the emotional outrage and get a job or hobby

Yep. Political discussion leads to stress.  How about this.  Hugs all round deep breathing, ok.  Back at it then.  Go Trump!

Just remember there's always someone worse off than yourself.  And all these bickerings will be less stressful. 

[Opl]

How Trump Is Repelling Foreign Investment . The Long-Term Costs of Economic Nationalism

"Beyond the cost of President Trump’s trade war with longtime US friends and rivals, his policy of economic nationalism has taken a toll in another important sphere: Net inward investment into the United States by multinational corporations—both foreign and American—has fallen almost to zero, an early indicator of the damage being done by the Trump administration’s trade conflicts and its arbitrary bullying of companies and governments. "

[bristolboy]

4 hours ago, ELVIS123456 said:

I think Kanye West summed up Obama's claims of acomplishment with the reality:

 

 

I didn't know that Obama held the office of President of Chicago.

[heybruce]

11 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

I didn't know that Obama held the office of President of Chicago.

On a similar note; what has Trump done for New York City, other than embarrass it?

[bristolboy]

1 minute ago, heybruce said:

On a similar note; what has Trump done for New York City, other than embarrass it?

Actually, he's sabotaging funding for  the Hudson River train tunnel. If that fails, the whole NE will suffer  economic damage. But he's managed to find 12 billion to fund farmers damaged by his trade policy.

[bristolboy]

Surprise! Something possibly good coming from the Trump Administration. A proposal to stop hospitals overcharging Medicare. Of course Trump backed down on allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices so let's see if he has the guts he lacked to stand up to Big Pharma but will have to impose cost cutting on the Big hospital chains.  I wonder where Trump supporters stand on this.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/7/27/17623072/trump-administration-medicare-hospital-costs-site-neutrality

[bristolboy]

Prankster puts Putin’s portrait in Trump’s place in presidential gallery

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-news-trump-putin-portrait-prankster-20180729-story.html

[Opl]

"NYT columnist warns ‘cruel bigot’ President Pence would be worse than Trump: ‘From a kleptocracy to a theocracy’

"“Is America worse off with Trump or Pence?” the author argued for Trump because he is so “obvious” about what he wants. Pence tends to “disguise his agenda.” D’Antonio explained, while adding that, should Pence assumed the presidency by way of impeachment with two years remaining on Trump’s term, he’d could run for president in 2020 and 2024 giving him ten years to do damage from the Oval Office."

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/nyt-columnist-warns-cruel-bigot-president-pence-worse-trump-kleptocracy-theocracy/

[Silurian]

Now and then, the clouds part and the sun shines brightly.

 

SUPPORT FOR DONALD TRUMP'S IMPEACHMENT IS HIGHER THAN HIS APPROVAL RATING, POLL INDICATES

 

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President Donald Trump is a mere 1 percentage point away from former commander in chief Richard Nixon when it comes to the number of Americans who want him impeached, according to a new poll released Friday.

 

Edited July 29, 2018 by Silurian

[wayned]

Time for Trump to change the narrative.  His latest tweets have been about shutting down the government at the end of the budget cycle in September if he doesn't get funding for his "wall" and and reform of the immigration policy  to eliminate the "lottery" and family reunification!  We've already forgotten about the over 700 children that have not been reunited with their families, NAFTA, NATO, Korean denuclearization, the Putin summit, etc>!!!  Chaos and diversity in action!  He causes the problem and them jumps in and does something and says that he has fixed it.

[FritsSikkink]

I thought the Mexicans were paying for it:

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-tweets-hed-shut-down-government-if-democrats-dont-fund-us-mexico-wall/ar-BBLcUY6?ocid=spartanntp

Edited July 29, 2018 by FritsSikkink

[stud858]

Has anybody seen any cool trump tshirt at Pattaya markets. For or against slogans.

 

[Jingthing]

13 minutes ago, stud858 said:

Has anybody seen any cool trump tshirt at Pattaya markets. For or against slogans.

 

No. Nothing.

 

The only political t-shirts I've seen people wearing here in recent years are Putin worship stuff worn by Russians.

 

Close enough? 

Edited July 30, 2018 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

Checking in on Carl Bernstein (one of the greatest journalists in American history and a man I had the honor of briefly speaking to) and "trump" (the worst president in American history).

 

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Reporter Carl Bernstein has seen it all, from Nixon to now. But nothing quite like Trump.

...

He described Trump as “sui generis” — one of a kind — not only in his “habitual aversion to telling the truth” and his “willingness to embrace authoritarian and racist notions,” but also in his “considerable brilliance in figuring out and tapping into something in the country” that was forming before his arrival as a candidate.

As for the Cohen news itself, Bernstein says the nub of it “goes to the question of intent to collude.”

 

 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/reporter-carl-bernstein-has-seen-it-all-from-nixon-to-now-but-nothing-quite-like-trump/2018/07/27/4accb1e0-919e-11e8-8322-b5482bf5e0f5_story.html

Edited July 30, 2018 by Jingthing

[FritsSikkink]

Trump is in so much trouble that his lawyer says colluding with the Russians isn't a crime:

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rudy-giuliani-just-obliterated-the-goal-posts-on-trump-russia-collusion/ar-BBLg9R6?ocid=spartanntp

[wayned]

1 hour ago, FritsSikkink said:

Trump is in so much trouble that his lawyer says colluding with the Russians isn't a crime:

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rudy-giuliani-just-obliterated-the-goal-posts-on-trump-russia-collusion/ar-BBLg9R6?ocid=spartanntp

Collusion is not a crime, however the result/outcome of the collusion could be  "Conspiracy to defraud the federal government" or "Obstruction of justice".

[Silurian]

Looks like the Obama/Biden bromance continues even after their term was finished.

 

Barack Obama and Joe Biden got lunch together, because some bromances never die

 

The only way Traitor Trump and Pence will eat together after their term finishes is at the lunch line in the same federal lockup.

 

 

 

Edited July 31, 2018 by Silurian

[FritsSikkink]

1 hour ago, wayned said:

Collusion is not a crime, however the result/outcome of the collusion could be  "Conspiracy to defraud the federal government" or "Obstruction of justice".

An American who isn't in a official government position can't collude with Russian agents without informing the government, it is called treason. Trump was still a candidate when this happened.

Edited July 31, 2018 by FritsSikkink

[bristolboy]

On 1/28/2018 at 2:56 PM, heybruce said:

No.  Did you forget he lost the popular vote by a 3 million vote margin?

It shows how deluded Trump supporters are that 2 members actually tagged your post with the "confused" emoji? What is so confusing about the fact that Trump lost the popular vote by 3 million votes? Maybe one of them will explain the source of the confusion?

[Scott]

22 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

It shows how deluded Trump supporters are that 2 members actually tagged your post with the "confused" emoji? What is so confusing about the fact that Trump lost the popular vote by 3 million votes? Maybe one of them will explain the source of the confusion?

It's called Trolling.   Don't bother asking.  

[Becker]

26 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

It shows how deluded Trump supporters are that 2 members actually tagged your post with the "confused" emoji? What is so confusing about the fact that Trump lost the popular vote by 3 million votes? Maybe one of them will explain the source of the confusion?

Well I bet one of them was TVF's unofficial sad/confused champion Mr BuaBS who liberally sprinkles every thread negative to the Swamp King with his sadness and confusion.

 

PS. He's also very sad and confused about anti-Brexit posts.

[lannarebirth]

On 7/29/2018 at 7:41 AM, bristolboy said:

Actually, he's sabotaging funding for  the Hudson River train tunnel. If that fails, the whole NE will suffer  economic damage. But he's managed to find 12 billion to fund farmers damaged by his trade policy?

Why can't the states and municipalities fund the tunnel and then raise fares to pay for it? By the same token, why should NYC commuters pay for the vagaries of grain and bean prices.

 

On a side note, I haven't met a poor farmer in at least 30 years.

[bristolboy]

2 hours ago, lannarebirth said:

Why can't the states and municipalities fund the tunnel and then raise fares to pay for it? By the same token, why should NYC commuters pay for the vagaries of grain and bean prices.

 

On a side note, I haven't met a poor farmer in at least 30 years.

For that matter why not highways? Maybe because when it comes to interstate commerce, the Federal government has a role to play in funding as it has since at least the Eisenhower administration.

[Berkshire]

Trump is adding more to the national debt.  And to benefit who exactly?  Certainly not the typical Trump supporter...

 

[The Trump administration is considering bypassing Congress to grant a $100 billion tax cut mainly to the wealthy, a legally tenuous maneuver that would cut capital gains taxation and fulfill a long-held ambition of many investors and conservatives.]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-administration-mulls-a-unilateral-tax-cut-for-the-wealthy/ar-BBLhtZx?ocid=wispr

 

The GOP is becoming the party of bailouts and corporate welfare...

 

[Layoffs from Trump tariffs are piling up. So are calls for more bailouts]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/layoffs-from-trump-tariffs-are-piling-up-so-are-calls-for-more-bailouts/ar-BBLh2uY?ocid=wispr

 

[bristolboy]

27 minutes ago, mcambl61 said:

what parts exactly, especially since Steele himself said it was not verified.

 

there was no russian anything in the original repub research. none

 

no diversion here brucey

The Steele Report, Revisited

How much of the infamous document ended up being corroborated elsewhere? A whole lot

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/09/a_lot_of_the_steele_dossier_has_since_been_corroborated.html

[heybruce]

38 minutes ago, mcambl61 said:

what parts exactly, especially since Steele himself said it was not verified.

 

there was no russian anything in the original repub research. none

 

no diversion here brucey

You are maybe correct on your "no russian anything" part, original opposition research on Trump was with Fusion Research and its unclear what, if any, specific requests were made by the sponsor, "The Washington Free Beacon", a conservative political website.   However it is safe to assume this website would have been happy to take any dirt tying Trump to illegal Russian activities had it been available before Trump secured the Republican nomination.

 

" Some of the dossier's allegations have been corroborated, while others remain unverified^[19] or may require access to classified information for verification.^[20] In February 2017, some details related to conversations "solely between foreign nationals" were independently verified. Some of those individuals were known to be "heavily involved" in efforts to damage Clinton and help Trump. The conversations "took place between the same individuals on the same days and from the same locations as detailed in the dossier", giving US intelligence and law enforcement "greater confidence" in the credibility of parts of the dossier.^[21] "    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump–Russia_dossier

 

There are many other sources describing, as much as security limitations permit, what parts of the dossier were verified.

[mcambl61]

On 7/29/2018 at 11:42 PM, Silurian said:

Now and then, the clouds part and the sun shines brightly.

 

SUPPORT FOR DONALD TRUMP'S IMPEACHMENT IS HIGHER THAN HIS APPROVAL RATING, POLL INDICATES

 

 

impeached for what? exact factual evidence of impeachable crimes please

[mcambl61]

On 7/29/2018 at 5:10 PM, heybruce said:

Really?  Pick that one accomplishment that was better than taking office during an economic freefall and leaving office with a sound economy.

The tax reform, which will start showing up in FY 2018/2019

not paying millions for hostages

not trading 5 taliban for a deserter and a traitor

getting hostages back without paying anything

stopping catch and release

Making NATO pay their share

 

there will be more bruce, just try to not get the vapors during the moral selective outrage fest you have going on

[bristolboy]

13 minutes ago, mcambl61 said:

The tax reform, which will start showing up in FY 2018/2019

not paying millions for hostages

not trading 5 taliban for a deserter and a traitor

getting hostages back without paying anything

stopping catch and release

Making NATO pay their share

 

there will be more bruce, just try to not get the vapors during the moral selective outrage fest you have going on

Tax reform which has so far resulted mainly in stock buybacks that favor the wealthiest Americans. And it has increased the deficit far more than the Trump administration promised it would. In fact, the Trump administration promised it would pay for itself. Now they've changed their tune.

So Trump has put a stop to catch and release? I thought that principled gentleman did a 180 degree turn on that one.

Has he made NATO "pay their share."? You got some evidence for that?

 

Seems like the reports here are from an alternative universe.

 

[Jingthing]

19 minutes ago, mcambl61 said:

well if the WP says it, it MUST be true. there are no biased reporters there at all....like the last time they endorsed a repub president

Cheap deflection. The article was about Carl Bernstein. His ethics are top rate. He deals in facts, He doesn't lie. If he makes an error, he corrects it. Dude, supporting that sleazy mega-liar demagogue "trump" just won't hold up historically. "trump" isn't a normal republican. He's a bizarre aberration of all decent American values of any party. The sooner "trump" fans realize that, the better for everyone. Of course most won't.