Neeranam Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Ok quite pleased with what the current government has achieved, for personal reasons. No corruption in many places there used to be. The economy is going really well. Time to wait for citizenship has halved. There were no roots, and foreigners being lynched when HM died, liked so many people said there would be for years. I prefer this government to the one in the UK or USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucec64 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Ok quite pleased with what the current government has achieved, for personal reasons. No corruption in many places there used to be. The economy is going really well. Time to wait for citizenship has halved. There were no roots, and foreigners being lynched when HM died, liked so many people said there would be for years. I prefer this government to the one in the UK or USA.As long as you are ok...Sent from my SM-N950U1 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 If you are making plans for the next decades as the general does.....why the hell he should go for elections? Only a fool would believe this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavemanwww Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 12 hours ago, steven100 said: we can hope that there is no election .... Thailand certainly doesn't need an election at this time. With the country ticking over at a good pace and economic development ongoing , the last thing Thailand needs is to go back to the protests, unruly parties, fighting, killings, insecurity, bolcked roads, and many other things. This government is the best thing that has happened ..... the last 3 years of security and sustainability only helps to prove that. Khun Prayut is doing a good job ... much better than his predecessors. Yes doing an excellent job! As good as if not better than his predecessors who have all absconded to the UK with billions. Saw Prayut at the UK embassy the other day with a new UK passport. Just in case! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 34 minutes ago, brucec64 said: As long as you are ok... Sent from my SM-N950U1 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Not just me buddy, most Thai people are happy with the present government. One reason I've never voted in my life is because I'm an anarchist. Whoever you vote for the government wins. Don't you vote for someone that makes your life easier, or better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toughlove Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 It doesn't matter who gets democratically elected. The bashers will attack that corrupt politician from all angles demanding he or she step down... Well... Then.. The J-U-N-T-A Shows up. And THEN GUESS WHAT?Rinse repeat. got to love the jaded expats and the comedy that TV provides [emoji23] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucec64 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Not just me buddy, most Thai people are happy with the present government. One reason I've never voted in my life is because I'm an anarchist. Whoever you vote for the government wins. Don't you vote for someone that makes your life easier, or better?Good to know that you have your finger on the pulse of the Thai nation. Bangkok Poll can save some time and money and just ask you.But I'm confused, or maybe you are. You say you are an anarchist but support a fascist government. Aren't they at the complete opposite ends of the spectrum?And yes, I have voted for governments that overall have made things better. But I'm not disaffected...Sent from my SM-N950U1 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfill Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 14 hours ago, rooster59 said: Indefinite poll delay possible I am not too worried about this, as long as it is only for a short time; February perhaps. ** I believe 'indefinite' means a bit after February. ** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 11 minutes ago, brucec64 said: Good to know that you have your finger on the pulse of the Thai nation. Bangkok Poll can save some time and money and just ask you. But I'm confused, or maybe you are. You say you are an anarchist but support a fascist government. Aren't they at the complete opposite ends of the spectrum? And yes, I have voted for governments that overall have made things better. But I'm not disaffected... Sent from my SM-N950U1 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app No need for a personal attack. I just happen to know and work with many Thai people, and listen to all walks of life talk about the state of the nation. Indeed, you are confused, I don't support a fascist government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucec64 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 No need for a personal attack. I just happen to know and work with many Thai people, and listen to all walks of life talk about the state of the nation. Indeed, you are confused, I don't support a fascist government. Not a personal attack. I just call BS on those that claim to know what "most" Thai people want. And if "most" people want the junta, why is the junta so scared too have an election, even after completely rigging the voting system and the senate? Sent from my SM-N950U1 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air Smiles Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 23 minutes ago, brucec64 said: Not a personal attack. I just call BS on those that claim to know what "most" Thai people want. To be fair you must also call bs on those small groups who claim that "most" Thai people want an election that might very well endanger the hard fought and fragile stability the country currently has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucec64 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 To be fair you must also call bs on those small groups who claim that "most" Thai people want an election that might very well endanger the hard fought and fragile stability the country currently has.In a poll released today, 47% of people disagreed with the poll delay while only 21% agreed with the delay. I'm not claiming anything, just stating facts. Sent from my SM-N950U1 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 31 minutes ago, brucec64 said: Not a personal attack. I just call BS on those that claim to know what "most" Thai people want. Do you read the Thai press, watch Thai TV, and join Thai web forums? I resent your remarks about BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air Smiles Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, brucec64 said: In a poll released today, 47% of people disagreed with the poll delay while only 21% agreed with the delay. I'm not claiming anything, just stating facts. Sent from my SM-N950U1 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Cherry picking polls to support your view of what "most" thai people want? I'll see your local poll with its tiny sample and raise you the 2016 nationwide constitutional referendum in which 61% of voters backed Prayut's charter( offered only semi-democracy and was seen to tighten military rule in Thailand ). Edited January 28, 2018 by Air Smiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucec64 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Cherry picking polls to support your view of what "most" thai people want? I'll see your local poll with its tiny sample and raise you the 2016 nationwide constitutional referendum in which 61% of voters backed Prayut's charter( offered only semi-democracy and was seen to tighten military rule in Thailand ).Refresh my memory on that one. Isn't it the poll where there was a 10 year jail sentence for campaigning for "no"? Must be why I didn't consider it when looking for legitimate results.Sent from my SM-N950U1 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 hour ago, toughlove said: Rinse repeat. got to love the jaded expats and the comedy that TV provides Do you wish you were one yourself - expat I mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marginline Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 10 hours ago, Mickmouse1 said: Haha ,clever boy!! THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I predicted if those do called activists will carry on protesting and antagonise the Leadership. Simple. Yep! Kudos to you Mickmouse1; I've been saying exactly the same thing too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air Smiles Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, brucec64 said: Refresh my memory on that one. Isn't it the poll where there was a 10 year jail sentence for campaigning for "no"? Must be why I didn't consider it when looking for legitimate results. Yes, your memory only contains half the story as no campaigning was allowed either way to prevent manipulation, so Thailand avoided the 'largest campaign fund wins' dynamic that exists in' most "democratic" countries(case in point, do some research on how Trump paid Facebook $200m to help buy the presidency) ....instead the Charter proposal documents were made available to the public to quietly talk amongst themselves and make up their own minds. ps As you like facts, how many redshirts went to jail for 10 years for campaigning to boycott the referendum? Edited January 28, 2018 by Air Smiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toughlove Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Do you wish you were one yourself - expat I mean?Zzzzzzzz gee how original Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucec64 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Yes, your memory only contains half the story as no campaigning was allowed either way to prevent manipulation, so Thailand avoided the 'largest campaign fund wins' dynamic that exists in' most "democratic" countries(case in point, do some research on how Trump paid Facebook $200m to help buy the presidency) ....instead the Charter proposal documents were made available to the public to quietly talk amongst themselves and make up their own minds. ps As you like facts, how many redshirts went to jail for 10 years for campaigning to boycott the referendum?Complete nonsense. The military was mobilized to go door to door to "instruct" how to vote and no independent observation of the election was allowed. Any documents and analysis were provided by the junta and were completely biased, and it would take a constitutional lawyer to decipher the monstrosity of a constitution that was put forward. Saying no campaigning on any side is a falsehood. It was a completely one side propaganda with pressure on village heads to deliver then vote. Worse than any election tactics. And still only got 61%.Would you accept this bastadization of electoral process in your country? Yet somehow you overlook here because it delivered the result you wanted.Sent from my SM-N950U1 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 15 hours ago, steven100 said: we can hope that there is no election .... Thailand certainly doesn't need an election at this time. With the country ticking over at a good pace and economic development ongoing , the last thing Thailand needs is to go back to the protests, unruly parties, fighting, killings, insecurity, bolcked roads, and many other things. This government is the best thing that has happened ..... the last 3 years of security and sustainability only helps to prove that. Khun Prayut is doing a good job ... much better than his predecessors. I used to believe that back in 2014. In 2015 not so much. 2016 I believed very little. 2017 I started to believe that they were no better than the previous governments. 2018 has only just started but my faith in them is lower than a snakes belly. Granted that there are no more riots or street occupations by either the reds or the yellows and that they have improved a few things, but their claim to eliminate corruption and reform the police simply hasn't happened. Now IMHO they are trying to rig the elections and they will probably succeed but they are not students of history and they have short memories and forget about 1993.at their peril. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 14 hours ago, YetAnother said: thais just cannot govern themselves ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesimps Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 17 hours ago, steven100 said: we can hope that there is no election .... Thailand certainly doesn't need an election at this time. With the country ticking over at a good pace and economic development ongoing , the last thing Thailand needs is to go back to the protests, unruly parties, fighting, killings, insecurity, bolcked roads, and many other things. This government is the best thing that has happened ..... the last 3 years of security and sustainability only helps to prove that. Khun Prayut is doing a good job ... much better than his predecessors. Pratt, pratt and double pratt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 6 hours ago, Neeranam said: Ok quite pleased with what the current government has achieved, for personal reasons. No corruption in many places there used to be. The economy is going really well. Time to wait for citizenship has halved. There were no roots, and foreigners being lynched when HM died, liked so many people said there would be for years. I prefer this government to the one in the UK or USA. Yes, they re-arranged corruption. The military is doing much better now. Transparency International registers no decline in net corruption. The economy continues to lag the rest of southeast Asia. The income disparity, which was too high before the coup, is getting worse. I don't recall anyone predicting "roots" or foreigners being lynched when the king died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 5 hours ago, Neeranam said: Not just me buddy, most Thai people are happy with the present government. One reason I've never voted in my life is because I'm an anarchist. Whoever you vote for the government wins. Don't you vote for someone that makes your life easier, or better? Another one who claims to speak for "most Thai people". How many of the 60+ million have you consulted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 4 hours ago, mrfill said: I am not too worried about this, as long as it is only for a short time; February perhaps. ** I believe 'indefinite' means a bit after February. ** It's been just a short time since 2014. Have you not detected the pattern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Mr p has been quiet lately. Rather unusual for him. I think I miss him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 As much as I would like to see real democracy, the junta is getting things done and clamping down on corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 22 hours ago, steven100 said: we can hope that there is no election .... Thailand certainly doesn't need an election at this time. With the country ticking over at a good pace and economic development ongoing , the last thing Thailand needs is to go back to the protests, unruly parties, fighting, killings, insecurity, bolcked roads, and many other things. This government is the best thing that has happened ..... the last 3 years of security and sustainability only helps to prove that. Khun Prayut is doing a good job ... much better than his predecessors. Maybe the police should keep order like other places? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 23 minutes ago, Basil B said: As much as I would like to see real democracy, the junta is getting things done and clamping down on corruption. Other than repression and rich generals, what has the junta accomplished? Transparency International doesn't agree with your optimistic view on corruption. https://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_perceptions_index_2016#table Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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