Foreign manager of Koh Phangan hostel faces deportation for cannabis possession

[mogandave]

14 minutes ago, rwdrwdrwd said:

From another perspective, what percentage in fact started with alcohol or tobacco? Most, I suspect.

And what percentage of alcoholics (also drug addicts) started with weed? They tend to be exclusively tobacco and alcohol aficionados in my experience.. legal though so I guess their screwed up lives that affect themselves and those around them are perfectly fine.

I grew up in SoCal and most of the people I know started smoking grass before they started drinking. 

 

Arguing that because one thing that ruins lives is legal all things that ruin lives should be legal does not make a lot of sense to me. 

 

[rwdrwdrwd]

33 minutes ago, mogandave said:

I grew up in SoCal and most of the people I know started smoking grass before they started drinking. 

 

Arguing that because one thing that ruins lives is legal all things that ruin lives should be legal does not make a lot of sense to me. 

 

I see, I grew up in the UK and most people I know started drinking before they started smoking weed. I visit the bay area regularly for business though and it's very common there - and plenty of people seem to get along perfectly fine doing it.

I'm not arguing that weed should be legal *because* alcohol is (though my opinion is that all substances should be legal for an adult to consume, it's their own responsibility).

What doesn't make a lot of sense to me is drawing a line from marijuana-heroin and claiming statistical importance, whilst ruling out any statistical importance of the lines from alcohol-heroin, nicotine-heroin or indeed sugar-heroin.

Edited February 15, 2018 by rwdrwdrwd

[Acemaker]

10 hours ago, miamiman123 said:

What country is he from? 

Lebanon, Red Leb, Ahhh, those were the days.  

[Jimdandy]

Potheads, they do it every time. Claim they don't sell anything and then take a hit and laugh all the way to the bank. 

[gamesgplayemail]

Sorry I am new and wonder how some people can tell that it's acceptable to do something illegal in Thailand ? We have to respect the law !

 

 

[jabis]

1 hour ago, rwdrwdrwd said:

I see, I grew up in the UK and most people I know started drinking before they started smoking weed. I visit the bay area regularly for business though and it's very common there - and plenty of people seem to get along perfectly fine doing it.

I'm not arguing that weed should be legal *because* alcohol is (though my opinion is that all substances should be legal for an adult to consume, it's their own responsibility).

What doesn't make a lot of sense to me is drawing a line from marijuana-heroin and claiming statistical importance, whilst ruling out any statistical importance of the lines from alcohol-heroin, nicotine-heroin or indeed sugar-heroin.

Wholeheartedly agreed.

 

There isn't anyone against summer or ice cream, while people consume the most ice cream during summertime, and most drownings happen to happen during summertime. Arbitrary correlations pulled out of subjective ass don't develop the data necessary to reinforce any of these "statistical" beliefs.

 

Edit: and yes - the sales volume and drownings happen to correlate equally, according to statistics...

Edited February 15, 2018 by jabis
Addendum

[Henrik Andersen]

When foreigners learn drugs are illegal in Thailand 

Have a nice trip home to Lebanon 

[gamesgplayemail]

9 hours ago, Jonah777 said:

All the hard drugs and dealers have gone to Koh Chang.  An island swimming in drugs. 

 

There si not drug on Koh chang, I have been there already !

 

 

[gamesgplayemail]

7 hours ago, tryasimight said:

Why are people blaming the current government?

The laws regarding marijuana are not new.... Been around for a very long time. 

Under Thaksin he may have been shot  on the spot. 

 

Maybe people blame government because if everybody was smart, weed would be legalized ?

 

 

 

[faraday]

1 hour ago, gamesgplayemail said:

 

Maybe people blame government because if everybody was smart, weed would be legalized ?

 

 

 

Bollerques

[watcharacters]

10 hours ago, tryasimight said:

Many countries have made homosexuality legal as well.  Go try it Saudi or Iran. 

The pros and construction of weed are irrelevant.  It is illegal under the law of Thailand. Arguments about it are futile. 

 

Personally I wish it was decriminalised but not legal.... Just a parking fine offence for personal use and possession of a few plants. 

I think legalising will only (eventually)  lead to Government regulation to the point it will be like buying a packet of smokes and become bland and boring with the profits going to the likes of Philip Morris and CO and the ( heavy)  taxes going to the Government. 

 

 

Over time some individuals and even governments become enlightebed.

 

"The pros and construction of weed are irrelevant."

[F4UCorsair]

 He must have upset a local dealer, or he forgot his monthly brown envelope

It matters not why he's in this situation or that the police had no warrant, none of that nonsense, or as some bush lawyer suggested, evidence 'illegally' obtained can't be used against him. This is Thailand!! Different rules from home, wherever that is.

The fact is he's been caught with drugs, wrong/no permits for his operation, so he pays the price.....back to $hithole Beirut!!

You play the game...you take the knocks.

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[F4UCorsair]

Closing down hostels has a knock on effect for all local business the little Thai restaurants or shops in the nearby vicinity where these hotels must now be feeling the loss of business. Soon there will be a lot of businesses being closed down which in the end will result in an increase in theft / robberies because people need a means of surviving all this is not good for such a small island .

So let these illegal operations continue??

 

If a guy kills his wife he shouldn't be jailed because the knock on effect is that his kids then don't have a father???

 

Seriously?

 

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[F4UCorsair]

Why was he not charged and jailed? Is that not a violation of the law? Deportation but no jail time? 

More cost effective to unload the trash than the court and detention costs.

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[F4UCorsair]

Wholeheartedly agreed.
 
There isn't anyone against summer or ice cream, while people consume the most ice cream during summertime, and most drownings happen to happen during summertime. Arbitrary correlations pulled out of subjective ass don't develop the data necessary to reinforce any of these "statistical" beliefs.
 
Edit: and yes - the sales volume and drownings happen to correlate equally, according to statistics...

Of course they do....more people at the beach consume more ice cream, and more people at the beach results in more drownings.

Nobody suggests surely, the people vet drunk on ice cream and drown as a consequence......surely?

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[mogandave]

I see, I grew up in the UK and most people I know started drinking before they started smoking weed. I visit the bay area regularly for business though and it's very common there - and plenty of people seem to get along perfectly fine doing it.

I'm not arguing that weed should be legal *because* alcohol is (though my opinion is that all substances should be legal for an adult to consume, it's their own responsibility).

What doesn't make a lot of sense to me is drawing a line from marijuana-heroin and claiming statistical importance, whilst ruling out any statistical importance of the lines from alcohol-heroin, nicotine-heroin or indeed sugar-heroin.

I think one can make an argument that everything should be legal for all adults to consume as long as the argument includes adults be responsible for themselves. That argument is never included. Drug addicts are a drag on society.


I can buy alcohol, cigs and sugar all at the grocery store. I have to participate in criminal activity to buy pot and dope, I see a significant difference.

[jacko45k]

19 hours ago, webfact said:

Officials also say that that hostel was operating without the correct permits.

These days I expect that is frequently the case... have a dart board and a small dance floor and you are likely missing a few.

[Jimdandy]

36 minutes ago, watcharacters said:

 

Personally I wish it was decriminalised but not legal.... Just a parking fine offence for personal use and possession of a few plants. 

I think legalising will only (eventually)  lead to Government regulation to the point it will be like buying a packet of smokes and become bland and boring with the profits going to the likes of Philip Morris and CO and the ( heavy)  taxes going to the Government. 

Exactly

[catman20]

6 hours ago, rwdrwdrwd said:

What you've never had contact with any 'professional' level foreigners outside of Thailand? Look west and you'll see their point is true.

back in the day when i had my own Law practice NO i never came in touch with any professional people smoking weed maybe things have changed as that was 20 years ago. 

Edited February 15, 2018 by catman20

[Annunaki]

40 minutes ago, catman20 said:

back in the day when i had my own Law practice NO i never came in touch with any professional people smoking weed maybe things have changed as that was 20 years ago. 

You had your own law practice and you gave it all up to slum it in Thailand?

Of course you did.

Edited February 15, 2018 by Annunaki

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[soalbundy]

19 hours ago, Get Real said:

Good! Get rid of the junkie or pusher. What ever he might be. He break the law and should be deported or jailed. Gives more room for the real people that wants to do things the right way.

I can see your point of view but it should be done the legal way without bias, no search warrant and using the army as bully boys is breaking and entering, if he has done wrong then get proof and prosecute him in a court of 'law', alleging and assumption is not proof. While they are being so 'legal' about it they could prosecute the police for trespassing.  

[huberthammer]

17 minutes ago, Annunaki said:

You had your own law practice and you gave it all up to slum it in Thailand?

Of course you did.

what an idiotic comment. Might be news to you but people make life choices that are not just career or money based. As for "slum it in Thailand" I know many people who live a more luxurious life here than back home,  

[soalbundy]

1 hour ago, catman20 said:

back in the day when i had my own Law practice NO i never came in touch with any professional people smoking weed maybe things have changed as that was 20 years ago. 

Professional people are into cocaine, weed is for back packers.

[Annunaki]

1 minute ago, huberthammer said:

what an idiotic comment. Might be news to you but people make life choices that are not just career or money based. As for "slum it in Thailand" I know many people who live a more luxurious life here than back home,  

 

That may be the case but the majority of ex-pats on this forum are full on Walts and I have no reason not to believe that our Johnnie Cochran wannabee is any different.

 

[Get Real]

10 hours ago, thaiguzzi said:

Shows your lack of understanding or lack of intelligence.

There is no such thing in the whole wide world as a cannabis/marijuana/hashish "junkie or pusher".

They do not exist.

Try again.

Maybe with heroin or meth or crack cocaine.

In those circles "junkies and pushers" do exist.

Two completely different scenes.

Dude.

Yep! Appearently illegal scenes, right? 

[Get Real]

10 hours ago, car720 said:

Just curious.  Have you never broken the law?

No

[Get Real]

10 hours ago, holy cow cm said:

You can’t be serious! A recreational weed? 

Recreational weed??? That you can start call it when it´s legal.

[catman20]

22 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

Professional people are into cocaine, weed is for back packers.

 apparently not ! go back and read the post from the start before you post

 

  13 hours ago, alex8912 said:

Unless you live under a rock you have met many scientists , lawyers, Doctors, teachers , professors, policeman , firemen, pharmacists, politicians and hippies that all smoke WEED REGULARLY!! 

Edited February 16, 2018 by catman20

[ttrd]

36 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

I can see your point of view but it should be done the legal way without bias, no search warrant and using the army as bully boys is breaking and entering, if he has done wrong then get proof and prosecute him in a court of 'law', alleging and assumption is not proof. While they are being so 'legal' about it they could prosecute the police for trespassing.  

I see Your point and I fully agree to it, but we must take into consideration and not forget that Thailand is 100 years behind and for 100 years ago the same would have happen anywhere in the world if not worse...;)