1 minute ago, dunroaming said:

Well it was £26,000 when we came but that can be in assets as well.  In other words if you own a house, even with a mortgage that negates the cash in the bank.

£62,000 in savings is an alternative 

5 hours ago, Hupaponics said:

I read to page 8, than i fast forward it to here.

 

Is UK social security that bad?

For the family's sake, why not go back WITH his son to get doctors attention. As there is a child involved sure social security will provide with some housing and finance. And than start the process of getting the mother over based on here son living in UK.

Doing so I think his family will get better of if he (God forbid) passes away.

 

Pls, it's not bashing with "go home" stuff, but a plan to help his family (and himself).

When he gets beter, than the family can decide if they want to go back or stay. After 2-3 years (depending on local country laws, some have 5 years) his wife gets a permanent permit to stay.

Now he have secured his families future. However, not financially but nevertheless with a ticket to stay in Europe if they wish.

 

Couple of years ago my ego was so strong wanting to stay in Thailand that I almost put my family in "danger". Luckily i woke up from that illusion b4 it was to late. Sad to see when people don't realize that "game over" is approaching. 

 

Honestly, while we still are in god health, it's not that hard to ho back to ones home county and make a few bucks. Why wait till it's too late.

If he was alone I wouldn't care less about his choices, but he have a wife and a child to be responsible for.

I can understand the feeling of being "a loser" by retreating back home, but hey. I'm back in Thailand and stronger than ever :). No shame in that.

 

 

He could go back to the U.K with his son, assuming his son is eligible for a British passport. Then the U.K authorities would more than likely consider it best for the child, to put him in a foster home, until, if ever his father could take care of him.

His mother would not receive permission to enter the U,K solely due to her child residing there. Her husband would have to prove that he could financially support her, without resorting to state support.

Approximately 4years ago, I moved from a relevantly secure lifestyle on the false promise  from  a fellow country man that myself and my families  future were guaranteed a living wage, make a fortune, etc,etc. Within that period of time,  we had free lodging (3mx3m security guards house ) , 10,000 Baht wage for my ex for looking after the resorts gardens and not  1 Baht for any construction, translation or otherwise work undertaken by myself.

In the meantime I split up from my ex as I couldn’t stand the constant lies and I went blind  through cataracts in both eyes to the point where I couldn’t cross a road.

If I hadn’t of bitten the bullet and asked for financial help from an old friend of mine, I dread to  think what would have happened to my son.

For you soulless, w……s out there, the time will come when you lose your pensions, your homes and your beloved concubines. Maybe then you’ll wake up to what is really important.  

On 16/02/2018 at 8:44 AM, smedly said:

surely he has a UK state pension of some sort and no harm to him but his health issues look like he has stuffed himself over the years into a slug state, does he smoke drink ?

 

Pretty sad state of affairs that only he has responsibility for

if he paid no insurance stamps for 30 years in the uk  he be intiteled to nothing as you have to pay for 30 years to get any thing  his best option really to get money for flight back but they wont let him fly if he to ill he got no insurance me thinks another fool 30 years of work and has nothing  should stayed in the uk but that no good now i will say yes he looks like lump lard he must have expected to get ill or heart attack well good luck becuase think your going to need it feel sorry for the wife and child

On 2/16/2018 at 3:44 PM, smedly said:

surely he has a UK state pension of some sort and no harm to him but his health issues look like he has stuffed himself over the years into a slug state, does he smoke drink ?

 

Pretty sad state of affairs that only he has responsibility for

maybe he is not entitled to a UK pension.

Look so like he has been eating well, but sorry I don’t donate money to losers.

 

2 hours ago, dunroaming said:

Well the law changes so I can only compare it to my experience some years ago.  The child will not have a UK birth certificate if they were born in Thailand but will be eligible for UK citizenship.  I got my son a British passport when I was in the UK on business  He was 4 years old and we were lucky in having a British doctor friend who did the declaration over knowing him since birth.  Obviously there was a cost to that.  Up until then my boy had a Thai passport.

 

When we moved to the UK there were a lot of hoops my wife had to jump through but no difficulty or cost for our son.  The original "leave to remain" visa came first and then when she was in the UK she had to do the "Living in the UK" test and also the "Spoken English Test".  Then depending on your bank balance and earnings a second "leave to remain" after two and a half years (cost was about £1,000) and then after five years an "indefinite leave to remain".  Having a child with a British Passport makes a big difference too.

 

I know it is now harder and some of the regulations have been tightened.  It isn't easy and you must make sure it is what your wife wants to do and not just you.  Life in the UK can be a tough call for a homesick wife.

 

My son was born 14 years ago in the Army hospital at Nakhon Sawan and I registered his birth at the British embassy and he was given a UK birth certificate. Whether this happens now I cannot say. He has a UK passport which has expired but it should be easily renewed.

 

In a way I am lucky as my wife has never really wanted to live in the UK and I worked offshore and in the military before that and I could feel at home almost anywhere

2 hours ago, mickyboy said:

if he paid no insurance stamps for 30 years in the uk  he be intiteled to nothing as you have to pay for 30 years to get any thing  his best option really to get money for flight back but they wont let him fly if he to ill he got no insurance me thinks another fool 30 years of work and has nothing  should stayed in the uk but that no good now i will say yes he looks like lump lard he must have expected to get ill or heart attack well good luck becuase think your going to need it feel sorry for the wife and child

Another one spouting total nonsense or are you just taking the micky boy

1 hour ago, cat handler said:

Look so like he has been eating well, but sorry I don’t donate money to losers.

 

 

Since winners don't typically have a need for charity, I guess that means you don't ever help out those in need. Helping one another and showing compassion aren't desirable qualities? 

4 hours ago, Syduan said:

Approximately 4years ago, I moved from a relevantly secure lifestyle on the false promise  from  a fellow country man that myself and my families  future were guaranteed a living wage, make a fortune, etc,etc. Within that period of time,  we had free lodging (3mx3m security guards house ) , 10,000 Baht wage for my ex for looking after the resorts gardens and not  1 Baht for any construction, translation or otherwise work undertaken by myself.

In the meantime I split up from my ex as I couldn’t stand the constant lies and I went blind  through cataracts in both eyes to the point where I couldn’t cross a road.

If I hadn’t of bitten the bullet and asked for financial help from an old friend of mine, I dread to  think what would have happened to my son.

For you soulless, w……s out there, the time will come when you lose your pensions, your homes and your beloved concubines. Maybe then you’ll wake up to what is really important.  

So  you made some   bad  choices, bad  wife bad  job and bad financial planning.......soulless maybe, stupid not. What's important? planning mate.

On 16/02/2018 at 9:19 AM, watcharacters said:

Send what you can afford.

 

Do not worry about if is a scam or not.

 

 

Give blindly to the lad who could not manage his life.

 

Good goal.

 

Watcharacters,

i can understand some of the chagrin and frustration in your posts in reply to this matter but I think you are being seriously disingenuous

 

Scam or otherwise, if it is genuine 

The worst of this story is that he appears to have made no provision for his late years, his wife or more sadly his yound child and that is disgraceful.

 

However please think for a moment that here for the grace of whomever go the rest of us. Were it not that the majority of us place ourselves in a postition of ensuring we survive the trials and tribulations of life.

 

Yes this man appears to be very fat and unfit but it is possible that he DID make provision but lost it all through other nefarious means.

 

I was lucky when the thief of Downing Street during the last labour administration stole my private pension, “ £30,000 a year “ I had made contingency plans because I know what socialist thieves are all about, but this man may not have had the same insight or opportunity. 

 

So so please just ease back on the bad vibes it does not enhance the situation

 

 

 

 

4 hours ago, mickyboy said:

if he paid no insurance stamps for 30 years in the uk  he be intiteled to nothing as you have to pay for 30 years to get any thing  

wrong

On 2/16/2018 at 3:44 PM, smedly said:

surely he has a UK state pension of some sort and no harm to him but his health issues look like he has stuffed himself over the years into a slug state, does he smoke drink ?

 

Pretty sad state of affairs that only he has responsibility for

It sounds like he dug a hole and fell into it, so is now begging.

But what has that to do with whether he drinks and smokes?

On 2/16/2018 at 9:37 PM, simon43 said:

He looks to be morbidly obese. I would hazard that he doesn't have long in this world.

I'd be more concerned about the welfare of his wife and child after he is gone.

 

He should have bought them a hotel when he had money.

"But in the last year he was not paid by a company for five months and now has no money at all."

Money does not grow on trees, but food does and he surely must have a lot of trees.

3 hours ago, George FmplesdaCosteedback said:

It sounds like he dug a hole and fell into it, so is now begging.

But what has that to do with whether he drinks and smokes?

I once saw an interview on TV were a woman was complaining she didn't get enough benefits to support her kids, she was asked during the interview if she smoked and she replied yes, so she was spending quite a large portion of her kids food money on cigarettes 

 

are you getting it ?

 

When money is tight and you are struggling to put food in the mouths of your children then certain none essentials need to take a hit

 

and for all those that are offering money to this guy, I would need to know a lot more about him before I would even consider it - so far I have a lot more questions than answers - in fact very few answers at all.

10 hours ago, steve187 said:

maybe he is not entitled to a UK pension.

so he is 65 and claims he is living in Thailand 30 years and if we assume he was in the UK for 35 years 

 

He could have been working from he was aged 16, that means he would have 19 years of NI contributions even if he was on benefits, that should now qualify him for a UK state pension of about 100 sterling a week, I doubt he was on benefits because he must have qualifications to enable him to hold a job in Thailand and would have been well compensated by Thai standards, he should also have a private pension with his previous employers one would have thought.

 

Like I said above - I would need to know a lot more about this mans past before I would consider parting with any of my own hard earned cash to help support him.

 

 

Will the British Consulate help this guy in getting help someway?

If he was working here legally for so long I believe that he will have Thai Social Security and rights to get into the Thai free medical scheme....or not?

5 hours ago, George FmplesdaCosteedback said:

It sounds like he dug a hole and fell into it, so is now begging.

But what has that to do with whether he drinks and smokes?

This question was a typical response you hear back home.

In my home country, if the doctors know you are a chronic alcoholic, or smoker and are other patients on a waiting list, they give you little or no help, since the thinking is

"well you did this to yourself"

 

sad to say about this guy, but what is the difference if what you choose to put in your mouth contribute to a faster death?

 

If choose not to smoke or drink then society accept you ok.

but come on, to get this huge this guy must be eating 2 bbq chickens for breakfast topped off with a tub of deepfried bannana.

 

its just self control really i think the other words are greed and gluttony?

 

sorry but my opinion, hugely obese people should be treated the same as they do alcoholics and smokers

Some baiting and bickering posts have been removed. Time to end it.

8 hours ago, gunderhill said:

So  you made some   bad  choices, bad  wife bad  job and bad financial planning.......soulless maybe, stupid not. What's important? planning mate.

Fair comment.

 

1 hour ago, tingtongtourist said:

sorry but my opinion, hugely obese people should be treated the same as they do alcoholics and smokers

No need to say sorry.

You mean they should be treated like all sick people, with love and compassion. Overeating can be a mental disorder, similar to alcoholism. 

Also, eating too much or drinking too much can be a choice. There is  HUGE  difference between an alcoholic, who has lost the power of choice, and a heavy drinker.

Smoking is a choice, but very addictive. It's much harder to quit than alcohol or heroin. But I have 6 weeks off them damn cigs now, all by will power.

Alcoholics can't quit on will power alone, as with some food addicts.

13 hours ago, nontabury said:

He could go back to the U.K with his son, assuming his son is eligible for a British passport. Then the U.K authorities would more than likely consider it best for the child, to put him in a foster home, until, if ever his father could take care of him.

His mother would not receive permission to enter the U,K solely due to her child residing there. Her husband would have to prove that he could financially support her, without resorting to state support.

His son would automatically receive a passport, unless he married a woman already with a son, which is something not wise at all in Thailand. 

A person could work for 30 years and still not qualify if they didn't pay NI contributions during that time, I'm sure posters who say he does qualify must surely have seen the NI record of the person in the OP.......or maybe not!

1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

Some baiting and bickering posts have been removed. Time to end it.

And now another bunch of them have been removed. Bickering just derails the topic.

13 hours ago, mickyboy said:

if he paid no insurance stamps for 30 years in the uk  he be intiteled to nothing as you have to pay for 30 years to get any thing  his best option really to get money for flight back but they wont let him fly if he to ill he got no insurance me thinks another fool 30 years of work and has nothing  should stayed in the uk but that no good now i will say yes he looks like lump lard he must have expected to get ill or heart attack well good luck becuase think your going to need it feel sorry for the wife and child

Totally WRONG, you only have to pay NI for 10 years to be entitled to a pension, not a large one obviously. He is almost certainly eligible for something now, surely somebody living there could help him fill out the online application for it? It is now 35 years for a full pension, but you will not get the full amount if you were opted out over those years.

4 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

Totally WRONG, you only have to pay NI for 10 years to be entitled to a pension, not a large one obviously. He is almost certainly eligible for something now, surely somebody living there could help him fill out the online application for it? It is now 35 years for a full pension, but you will not get the full amount if you were opted out over those years.

correct and thx for posting 

4 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

Totally WRONG, you only have to pay NI for 10 years to be entitled to a pension, not a large one obviously. He is almost certainly eligible for something now, surely somebody living there could help him fill out the online application for it? It is now 35 years for a full pension, but you will not get the full amount if you were opted out over those years.

Thank you for that, I know I should not be surprised by the lack of knowledge on here in general but as regards your entitlement to a UK state pension its quite laughable

6 minutes ago, oldlakey said:

Thank you for that, I know I should not be surprised by the lack of knowledge on here in general but as regards your entitlement to a UK state pension its quite laughable

"Nevah in the field of human intellectual endeavour has so many posted about pensions to so few"

 

 

 

12 minutes ago, oldlakey said:

Thank you for that, I know I should not be surprised by the lack of knowledge on here in general but as regards your entitlement to a UK state pension its quite laughable

Indeed, it's all on the official website if people take the time to look.