connda Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 We'll all have to "watch" to see how timely corruption is left in the past in Thailand 4.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 A big load of meaningless political double-speak. Translated: No progress now, no progress in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKDfella Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Corruption here must be dealt sincerely and with certainty starting at the top. Nothing else will work. Even this will take a long time but the important point the government has to be seen to be doing the job. Unfortunately, if anything, the reverse is true. Currently in the news (apart from the watch saga) is another rich person being called by the police and a lawyer says (according to today's news) that he is too busy to see police. Complete and utter nonsense but until this type of procedure changes, corruption here will forge on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Eric Loh said: No choice words for the military? Eric, the military should be subject to the same impartial, unbiased, efficient and effective justice system, the same as anyone else. Part of that justice system is enforcement. The police and the several various agencies charged with that, as we've seen, are somewhat lacking in those characteristics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Baerboxer Posted February 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2018 15 minutes ago, TKDfella said: Corruption here must be dealt sincerely and with certainty starting at the top. Nothing else will work. Even this will take a long time but the important point the government has to be seen to be doing the job. Unfortunately, if anything, the reverse is true. Currently in the news (apart from the watch saga) is another rich person being called by the police and a lawyer says (according to today's news) that he is too busy to see police. Complete and utter nonsense but until this type of procedure changes, corruption here will forge on. Those changes are not likely to happen. Too many of the top echelons, the ones from the right families with vast wealth, enjoy their privileged status and all the perks, like telling the police you're too busy, to permit those changes. And can't see anyone on the political horizon championing changing that. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Katipo said: So how exactly do the corrupt fight corruption? Corruptly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOD Robin Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Another story, another LIE Have they nothing better to do ??? Oh wait.... T i T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 40 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: Eric, the military should be subject to the same impartial, unbiased, efficient and effective justice system, the same as anyone else. Part of that justice system is enforcement. The police and the several various agencies charged with that, as we've seen, are somewhat lacking in those characteristics. Nothing you say that I can disagree. Just add that the appointment of the police chief and the various agencies should be more transparent, merit base and the panel should consist of impartial members. Leave that to the junta and we have Prayut and Prawit appointing the police chief, AG and presidents of the corruption agencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Baerboxer Posted February 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2018 Just now, Eric Loh said: Nothing you say that I can disagree. Just add that the appointment of the police chief and the various agencies should be more transparent, merit base and the panel should consist of impartial members. Leave that to the junta and we have Prayut and Prawit appointing the police chief, AG and presidents of the corruption agencies. Of course. Whether it's the current set up or any others, the trick is to get your relatives, cronies, mates, extended family members and those you can easily influence into as many key positions as possible. And make sure they all regard themselves as your "junior"! Until that is broken, little of anything will change. The ones doing the appointing certainly won't change anything as it suits their purpose. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 These old fools in the military helped invent different modes and polish corruption. Fat P and his TOP savior Bigger P saving him are two prime examples. Do as I say, but not ass I do or did. Besides, I am untouchable. The law states it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 31 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: Of course. Whether it's the current set up or any others, the trick is to get your relatives, cronies, mates, extended family members and those you can easily influence into as many key positions as possible. And make sure they all regard themselves as your "junior"! Until that is broken, little of anything will change. The ones doing the appointing certainly won't change anything as it suits their purpose. Absolutely, will like to see the junta implement and reform this once and for all. With 44, the process can be shortened and need not go through all the legal hoops and loops. Others don’t have that sort of power. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patje55 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 , they already started???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megasin1 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I didn't know that 'work' was a currency. This is a terrible mis-spelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvavin Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 This word. corruption is making the ordinary look stupid day by day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIWIBATCH Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I was once told that Thais are born with a corruption "gene".....at the time I called BS...but now I am 99.99% convinced it's true...!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnyBangkok Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 19 hours ago, Pattaya28 said: The above report is "jibberish". Absolutely non-sensical. How many Deputy PM's are there ? If they wanted to really clean up the corruption it needs to start from the top down, Follow Singapore, they too were bad but cleaned themselves up and the citizens there are enriched with a better quality of life and wealth. Any time politicians are appointed rather than elected by the people, you will get little mini warlords and corruption. You have some good ones but most of them are crap with a hand in your pocket and the other patting you on the back. First I would look at all the "appointed governors" from the BKK and get rid of them as soon as Thailand has permission to have a legal and free election, if you leave them in place they will continue to work for their big boss and you will never get the military out of government. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 10 hours ago, JohnyBangkok said: you will never get the military out of government. So true - they will always be hovering around in the background waiting for their time again in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 10 hours ago, JohnyBangkok said: Follow Singapore, they too were bad but cleaned themselves Singapore was a smuggling haven and bribing the police was a norm and bribing the public officers were standard practice before LKY. The country got “cleaned” because of his strong political will and vision that to survive without any resources, the country need to shape up to attract investors. Eradicating corruption was his personal agenda. He too lead by example through his frugal life style and he appointed judiciary officers by merits. He changed the corruption culture. Thais are not born with corruption gene. It is the culture of disregard for the law, weak institutions and poor leadership that the country mired in corruption. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peperobi Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 It's need of course time but, you must really begin with, not only talking about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallen52 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 They certainly have an hydraulic gene. (will lift anything, as long as it's not physical work involved). Just moving apartment to a town house. Final cleaning yesterday and left the mop and bucket and broom on the balcony. Came back to finish today and they had grown legs. Plus three bikes in my car spot. I stood there until they moved them all. Then said, "where's me <deleted> mop and bucket". Sorry. Sorry.. They have all re appeared. It was the males. As if they know what a floor mop is for????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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