Two American women held in Thailand after allegedly caught with fake US dollars

[sanemax]

Just now, giddyup said:

Then why are you arguing about an alleged crime? Now you say no crime has been committed.

..............because they "allege" that they found some money and tried to change fake money at a money changers , which is a crime and "alleged" .

   I am not "now" saying that no crime has been committed , I said that some time before , a few pages back .

  Go back to page 12 , read all the posts and keep up to date and then comment , rather than me having to explain everything to you

[BobbyL]

These cryptic Facebook posts make it seem more and more like a scam. 

 

If it was real there would surely be news reports, photos from the Currency Exchange CCTV of them, police info etc. The police here CANNOT wait to have a photo pointing at the assailants, especially some bad foreigners, yet there is nothing. 

 

The only info is from their Facebook and gofundme. Very suspicious. 

[giddyup]

Just now, sanemax said:

..............because they "allege" that they found some money and tried to change fake money at a money changers , which is a crime and "alleged" .

   I am not "now" saying that no crime has been committed , I said that some time before , a few pages back .

  Go back to page 12 , read all the posts and keep up to date and then comment , rather than me having to explain everything to you

You are talking around in circles, go and have a lie down. I've hit the ignore button.

[Justfine]

I would have thought making up stories to get crowd funding happens every week.

 

What clowns are giving money to strangers for sob stories?

[ravip]

2 minutes ago, Justfine said:

I would have thought making up stories to get crowd funding happens every week.

 

What clowns are giving money to strangers for sob stories?

Seems like the infamous Nigerian Scams are infectious! 

[giddyup]

7 minutes ago, Justfine said:

Same reason you do.

No, I respond because I do give a stuff, otherwise I wouldn't bother.

[Justfine]

Billions raised they say. People getting money for their dogs. Probably don't even own a dog 555

[scorecard]

8 minutes ago, BobbyL said:

These cryptic Facebook posts make it seem more and more like a scam. 

 

If it was real there would surely be news reports, photos from the Currency Exchange CCTV of them, police info etc. The police here CANNOT wait to have a photo pointing at the assailants, especially some bad foreigners, yet there is nothing. 

 

The only info is from their Facebook and gofundme. Very suspicious. 

 

Agree.

 

In other words, looks very much like a planned scam.

 

 

[Justfine]

Just now, giddyup said:

No, I respond because I do give a stuff, otherwise I wouldn't bother.

You care deeply about strangers in the news? Of course you do.

[giddyup]

Just now, Justfine said:

You care deeply about strangers in the news? Of course you do.

Not the people, the topic, but that might be a little deep for you to grasp.

[Justfine]

1 minute ago, scorecard said:

 

Agree.

 

In other words, looks very much like a planned scam.

 

 

What laws does that break?

[Justfine]

Just now, giddyup said:

Not the people, the topic, but that might be a little deep for you to grasp.

No, it just smells like something.

[giddyup]

Just now, Justfine said:

No, it just smells like something.

It's your breath.

[Justfine]

1 minute ago, giddyup said:

It's your breath.

I was right.

[scorecard]

Just now, Justfine said:

What laws does that break?

 

There's also the point about ethics and morals.

 

It's well possible that no law has been broken (in all sorts of situations) but the actions taken are immoral and unethical and take advantage of naive people and emathima to what's acceptable to civil society.

 

 

[sanemax]

8 minutes ago, BobbyL said:

These cryptic Facebook posts make it seem more and more like a scam. 

 

If it was real there would surely be news reports, photos from the Currency Exchange CCTV of them, police info etc. The police here CANNOT wait to have a photo pointing at the assailants, especially some bad foreigners, yet there is nothing. 

 

The only info is from their Facebook and gofundme. Very suspicious. 

Nothing adds up about this story :

They were on the way to jail , then got bail .

No, if you are on the way to jail, you go to jail , you dont get bailed on the way .

They said they needed $80 000 US$ bail money .

Where did they get that money from to get bail ?

They have told people not to contact the media or the U.S. Embassy.

They cannot reply or answer any questions , because of limited Wifi and the time difference , although they seem to have enough Wifi to post about their situation and also if they are on bail, they wouldnt even have any Wifi restrictions .

   No local media coverage or Police confirmation .

Continually asking for money  , a huge amount of money (130 000 US$)

 

[Justfine]

Just now, scorecard said:

 

There's also the point about ethics and morals.

 

It's well possible that no law has been broken (in all sorts of situations) but the actions taken are immoral and unethical and take advantage of naive people and emathima to what's acceptable to civil society.

 

 

Hello crowd funding. Hello third world charity.

[OldSiamHand]

4 minutes ago, Justfine said:

What laws does that break?

Fraud, a civil and criminal offense in Thailand.

[Justfine]

Just now, OldSiamHand said:

Fraud, a civil and criminal offense in Thailand.

Are they currently living in Thailand?

[scorecard]

1 minute ago, Justfine said:

Hello crowd funding. Hello third world charity.

?

[Justfine]

1 minute ago, scorecard said:

?

You're kidding right?

[ravip]

3 minutes ago, Justfine said:

Hello crowd funding. Hello third world charity.

A what?

 

[OldSiamHand]

1 minute ago, Justfine said:

Are they currently living in Thailand?

Good question, but even if they aren't in Thailand then they may be somewhere else where fraud is recognized as a crime (unless they're scam artists in Nigeria or some similar jurisdiction). 

[sanemax]

Just now, scorecard said:

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Come on you two, stop squabbling and wasting space , we are trying to solve an alleged crime here and we dont need pointless bickering .

[Justfine]

Just now, Father Fintan Stack said:

Cases like this bring the point that it's a shame that we don't have money in a digital form, on an immutable ledger, that is completely secure and stored solely by the owner and can't be faked or counterfeited and every single transaction can be traced and proven. It would be amazing if it was debt-free and deflationary too, and could not be reproduced by governments on a whim, when they decide to counterfeit themselves (quantitative easing). 

 

Yet we are told that this type of 'money' will be used by criminals. 

Yeah like crypo crap that gets hacked every week and expensive to use.

[Justfine]

4 minutes ago, ravip said:

A what?

 

Geez

[ravip]

4 minutes ago, Justfine said:

Geez

Hello crowd funding. Hello third world charity.

 

Can you please explain?

('cos the subject was Two American women held in Thailand after allegedly caught with fake US dollars)

 

Edited February 28, 2018 by ravip

[OldSiamHand]

4 minutes ago, Father Fintan Stack said:

Cases like this bring the point that it's a shame that we don't have money in a digital form, on an immutable ledger, that is completely secure and stored solely by the owner and can't be faked or counterfeited and every single transaction can be traced and proven. It would be amazing if it was debt-free and deflationary too, and could not be reproduced by governments on a whim, when they decide to counterfeit themselves (quantitative easing). 

 

Yet we are told that this type of 'money' will be used by criminals. 

I was with you up until your last sentence.  A debt-free, deflationary currency would be a disaster.  And if you think that quantitative easing is a form of counterfeiting, then you might as well take a step back and look at the bigger picture of fiat currencies - as they are "counterfeit" from the get go.

[Justfine]

Just now, ravip said:

Hello crowd funding. Hello third world charity.

Can you please explain?

 

You don't know that billions in aid have gone missing?

 

You don't know crowd funding is dodgy?

 

Ok

[Justfine]

1 minute ago, Father Fintan Stack said:

Even a half decent crypto can't be hacked as it is a distributed network. In addition, it is far cheaper to use than fiat money. 

 

Exchanges and wallets can be hacked though, but that is if you are stupid not to use security precautions and/or leave your funds on centralised exchanges. 

Rubbish.