Sturgeon says Scottish parliament will not consent to UK PM May's Brexit bill

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Sturgeon says Scottish parliament will not consent to UK PM May's Brexit bill

 

Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon speaks at the launch of an analysis paper on Scotland's future relationship with Europe, at the University of Edinburgh, Scotland, Britain January 15, 2018. REUTERS/John Linton/Pool/Files

 

LONDON (Reuters) - Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said on Tuesday that the Scottish parliament would not consent to British Prime Minister Theresa May's European Union (Withdrawal) Bill as outlined so far by ministers.

 

"I will not sign up to something that effectively undermines the whole foundation on which devolution is built," Sturgeon told BBC radio.

 

(Reporting by Elisabeth O'Leary; editing by Michael Holden/Guy Faulconbridge)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-02-27

[NanLaew]

Yes you will Nicola, yes you will.

[overherebc]

I really wish she would just go away.

[nauseus]

Re-enter the dragon.

[Cherjam]

More yes than ever, westminster is not to be trusted

[jacko45k]

Who on earth keeps voting this repugnant person in!

[John1012]

Who really cares what the Scottish parliament does or says, except perhaps the people of Scotland who are slowly going bankrupt.

[meinphuket]

If Scotland is wise, they leave the UK, and let the UK sink in its self-created swamp. The UK will also shrink significantly as it will instantly lose 32% of its landmass and mooring for its nuclear sub toy. The EU also needs to dscuss forcible repatriation of unncessary Brits in Europe, and those staying will need visas and work permits. No more Brits working for EU institutions too immediately after Brexit. Britain should refrain from complaining about 'unfair'  exit conditions,since they have been instrumental  in creating these together with the EU for the past umpteen decades. Thanks.

[meinphuket]

23 minutes ago, John1012 said:

Who really cares what the Scottish parliament does or says, except perhaps the people of Scotland who are slowly going bankrupt.

Look what the EU did for Eire...it will do the same for a divorced Scotland.

[RuamRudy]

28 minutes ago, John1012 said:

Who really cares what the Scottish parliament does or says, except perhaps the people of Scotland who are slowly going bankrupt.

Can you explain that one please? Bankrupt? We balance our books annually.

[RuamRudy]

3 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Who on earth keeps voting this repugnant person in!

The elctorate - by a significant margin.

[RuamRudy]

14 hours ago, overherebc said:

I really wish she would just go away.

Don't you like deomcracy?

[overherebc]

1 minute ago, RuamRudy said:

Don't you like deomcracy?

I do yes.

I just don't see the need for independence.

 

[RuamRudy]

6 minutes ago, meinphuket said:

Look what the EU did for Eire...it will do the same for a divorced Scotland.

There is no doubt about it - Scotland has been held back by Westminster for generations. I don't see it as what the EU will do for Scotland, per se, more what an unshackled Scotland can do for itself.

 

As for England, that is the problem child. Once they lose the financial sector to Frankfurt, what does England really have to sell to the rest of the world other than money laundering services? Scotland will thrive but England will need to readjust to not being propped up by Scottish subsidies.

[Baerboxer]

7 hours ago, Cherjam said:

More yes than ever, westminster is not to be trusted

 

And you think Sturgeon is! 

[Baerboxer]

27 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

There is no doubt about it - Scotland has been held back by Westminster for generations. I don't see it as what the EU will do for Scotland, per se, more what an unshackled Scotland can do for itself.

 

As for England, that is the problem child. Once they lose the financial sector to Frankfurt, what does England really have to sell to the rest of the world other than money laundering services? Scotland will thrive but England will need to readjust to not being propped up by Scottish subsidies.

 Yeah right. Based on what? Oil revenue, only the UK paid to develop that just like Scotland has been well looked after on government spending compared to other areas over the years. 

 

The SNP can't balance their budgets and rely on Westminster. An independent small nation, outside the EU, struggling to meet the criteria for EU membership will survive? Sure like Albania, Kosovo, Montenegro etc. Perhaps Whisky sales will go up? Or Scottish nationality and passports can be sold off?

 

Scotland and Scots have played an important role in the UK for generations, military, government, civil service, business, medicine, science, academia. Punching weight above its weight in so many areas.

 

This chip on the shoulder attitude has no real basis other than prejudice.

[Baerboxer]

How does she know in advance how the Scottish parliament will vote?

 

Nicola I wanna be leader for live president and dictator Sturgeon.

[Baerboxer]

After May became Tory leader, and Sturgeon had her first meeting, she announced in the Scottish press that May had told her she could veto Brexit. That was certainly reported in The Scotsman at the time.

 

Wee Nippy has serious delusions about herself becoming a big leader on the international scene. Just like she hinted how well she personally gets on with Juncker and Tust and how she'd been tipped the wink it would be fixed for an independent Scotland to get in the EU quickly. Not in so  many words but plenty of hints. Only Juncker and Tusk denied that was the case, very clearly. And the latter actually refused to meet her.

 

God help Scotland if she ever manipulates to leave the UK with herself and hubby at the helm.

[siam2007]

45 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 

 

As for England, that is the problem child. Once they lose the financial sector to Frankfurt, what does England really have to sell to the rest of the world

 

Hundreds of "islamic Centers", perhaps ?

[RuamRudy]

2 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

Yeah right.

So much misinformation in one post...

 

3 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

Oil revenue, only the UK paid to develop that

Are you sure about that? It wasn't the oil companies themselves that paid to develop the North Sea?

 

4 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

Scotland has been well looked after on government spending compared to other areas over the years. 

The Barnett formula was devised for a reason - you should investigate more.

 

5 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

The SNP can't balance their budgets and rely on Westminster.

You do realise, don't you, that the SG does not have full fiscal autonomy? They did ask for it but the Unionist parties rejected that proposal so we do not so much rely upon Westminster; rather, we receive back a portion of what we send.

 

As for balancing budgets, the SG has no borrowing powers. They have no alternative but to balance their budget.

 

9 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

Scotland and Scots have played an important role in the UK for generations, military, government, civil service, business, medicine, science, academia. Punching weight above its weight in so many areas.

I think a more appropriate statement would have been Scotland and Scots have played an important role in the WORLD for generations - the Scottish enlightenment wasn't initiated by the Act of the Union.

 

13 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

This chip on the shoulder attitude has no real basis other than prejudice.

That statement has no actual basis other than your failure to understand that not everyone sees London and England as the centre of the universe.

[RuamRudy]

14 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

How does she know in advance how the Scottish parliament will vote?

 

Nicola I wanna be leader for live president and dictator Sturgeon.

They have the backing of the Greens so, combined, represent an majority in Holyrood. That is not a dictatorship - that is democracy. You may not like it, but to condemn it because it is not what you want, and to liken it to a dictatorship is somewhat amusing and ridiculous at the same time.

[lagavulin1]

2 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

There is no doubt about it - Scotland has been held back by Westminster for generations. I don't see it as what the EU will do for Scotland, per se, more what an unshackled Scotland can do for itself.

 

As for England, that is the problem child. Once they lose the financial sector to Frankfurt, what does England really have to sell to the rest of the world other than money laundering services? Scotland will thrive but England will need to readjust to not being propped up by Scottish subsidies.

Interested Rudy in what you think Scotland has to offer on its own. Depleted oil reserves perhaps ? Whisky ? Scotland truly produces the Worlds finest but every man and his dog are producing the spirit now. 

As for Eire I think they did well enough on their own by becoming a tax haven and robbing UK inc Scotland and the EU of billions in taxes.

[dick dasterdly]

At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter.

 

No doubt sturgeon and other Scot. MPs will vote against any 'brexit bill', but they  (and the Scots) are a very small minority of the overall voting population.

 

I would be sad if the Scots voted to leave the british union as they have produced SO many brilliant innovators.  But sturgeon is proving herself to be (yet again...) nothing other than a loud, largely irrelevant voice....

Edited February 28, 2018 by dick dasterdly

[dunroaming]

Scotland is a country that forms part of the UK.  Their elected politicians have a duty to protect their citizens as they see fit.  England is the same and so is Northern Ireland.  It is not for the English or the N.Irish to dictate what Scotland does.  Same applies to all. 

[RuamRudy]

3 hours ago, lagavulin1 said:

Interested Rudy in what you think Scotland has to offer on its own. Depleted oil reserves perhaps ? Whisky ? Scotland truly produces the Worlds finest but every man and his dog are producing the spirit now. 

As for Eire I think they did well enough on their own by becoming a tax haven and robbing UK inc Scotland and the EU of billions in taxes.

Reports on the death of North Sea Oil have been greatly exaggerated. So much so that Shell has announced their first new field since, I think, the mid 90s and 13 other fields are currently in development. As tight oil becomes a necessity worldwide, opportunities within the  existing North Sea infrastructure are opening up all the time.

 

But it would be foolish to base an economy on hydrocarbons, and Scotland is a leader in renewables: wind, wave and hydro. Food and drink brings in GBP 10 billion a year; technology, IT, services - in fact all the vestiges of a mature and diverse economy.

 

But don't take it from me:

 

"It would be wrong to suggest that Scotland could not be another successful, independent country."

David Cameron

 

"Now our case is not that Scotland could not survive as a seprate state. Of course it could."
Alastair Darling

 

"Scotland is perfectly capable of being an independent nation."
Nigel Lawson

Edited February 28, 2018 by RuamRudy

[RuamRudy]

2 hours ago, dick dasterdly said:

At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter.

 

No doubt sturgeon and other Scot. MPs will vote against any 'brexit bill',

Not all - despite every constituency in Scotland voting to remain in the EU, most, if not all Tory and Labour MPs elected last year all seem to be fully behind Brexit.

 

2 hours ago, dick dasterdly said:

but they  (and the Scots) are a very small minority of the overall voting population.

True - which highligts the inherent problem with the Union.

 

2 hours ago, dick dasterdly said:

I would be sad if the Scots voted to leave the british union as they have produced SO many brilliant innovators. 

Why sad? Nothing will change our shared history; we won't, overnight, declare war against our neighbour. That we choose to make our own decisions is no reason to assume that the relationship between the people should do anything other than flourish .

 

2 hours ago, dick dasterdly said:

But sturgeon is proving herself to be (yet again...) nothing other than a loud, largely irrelevant voice....

If irrelevant, why is the story recieving such prominence? I appreciate that there are many in the UK who feel that we Scots should know our place, but I am afraid that for many of us, that is no longer acceptable.

[lagavulin1]

13 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

Reports on the death of North Sea Oil have been greatly exaggerated. So much so that Shell has announced their first new field since, I think, the mid 90s and 13 other fields are currently in development. As tight oil becomes a necessity worldwide, opportunities within the  existing North Sea infrastructure are opening up all the time.

 

But it would be foolish to base an economy on hydrocarbons, and Scotland is a leader in renewables: wind, wave and hydro. Food and drink brings in GBP 10 billion a year; technology, IT, services - in fact all the vestiges of a mature and diverse economy.

True true. I must confess that I've only been north of the border once. It was a fried haggis and chips under an umbrella sort of honeymoon.

UK is broken let's hope everybody gets the  share of the spoils they need.

[malagateddy]

Born and worked in Glasgow till I retired over here almost 4 years ago..let me tell you that sturgeon is a very bitter anti British/English twisted reptile.
Ditto her followers..mostly weekly giro collectors.
My friends back in Glasgow are sick the back teeth of her mouthing off.
But then again..empty vessels make the most noise!!!
Me..I am proud to be a Glasgow Brit, a Unionist and a Royalist.
Long Live The Union
Ps..I am also a Brexit man[emoji6]

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[RuamRudy]

9 minutes ago, malagateddy said:

Born and worked in Glasgow till I retired over here almost 4 years ago..let me tell you that sturgeon is a very bitter anti British/English twisted reptile.
Ditto her followers..mostly weekly giro collectors.
My friends back in Glasgow are sick the back teeth of her mouthing off.
But then again..empty vessels make the most noise!!!
Me..I am proud to be a Glasgow Brit, a Unionist and a Royalist.
Long Live The Union
Ps..I am also a Brexit man

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You forgot to add 'WATP'

[malagateddy]

Yip..I am a Rangers Man..and your point is??????

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