webfact Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Trump won Stormy Daniels legal case in arbitration: White House FILE PHOTO: Adult-film actress Stephanie Clifford, also known as Stormy Daniels, poses for pictures at the end of her striptease show in Gossip Gentleman club in Long Island, New York, U.S., February 23, 2018. REUTERS/Eduardo Munoz/File photo WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump has already won a legal case against adult-film actress Stormy Daniels in arbitration, his spokeswoman said on Wednesday, a day after Daniels sued seeking to invalidate a "hush agreement" she signed with Trump's lawyer. Daniels, whose legal name is Stephanie Clifford, said in the lawsuit that Trump never signed the nondisclosure agreement, designed to keep her quiet about an "intimate relationship" she said she had with him over a decade ago. Trump's failure to sign renders the pact invalid, the lawsuit said. Clifford has said she was taking legal action to be able to speak freely about the "intimate relationship" without fear of retribution. According to the lawsuit, Clifford and Trump had an intimate relationship that began in the summer of 2006, not long after Trump's wife Melania gave birth to their son Barron, and lasted well into 2007. Reuters could not independently confirm any of the allegations. White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders denied Trump had an affair with Clifford and said arbitration over the legal case with the actress was won by the president's personal attorneys. "The president has addressed these (allegations by Clifford) directly and made very well clear that none of these allegations are true," Sanders said at Wednesday's White House press briefing. "This case has already been won in arbitration and anything beyond that, I would refer you to the president's outside counsel." A lawyer for the actress, Michael Avenatti, did not respond to a request for comment on Wednesday. Clifford's lawsuit said Trump lawyer Michael Cohen initiated a "bogus arbitration proceeding" against her on Feb. 27, without notifying her, as part of efforts to "shut her up" and "protect Mr. Trump." Cohen's lawyer Lawrence Rosen said in a statement on Wednesday that Cohen obtained an order from an arbitrator prohibiting Clifford from disclosing confidential information related to the nondisclosure agreement. Cohen has previously acknowledged he paid Clifford $130,000 in October out of his own pocket to not discuss her claims of an affair with Trump. Asked about the payment by Cohen to Clifford, Huckabee Sanders said she was not aware Trump knew of it at the time. Cohen did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Trump attorneys John Dowd and Jay Sekulow were not immediately available for comment. (Reporting by Steve Holland, additional reporting by Andrew Hay; editing by Grant McCool) -- © Copyright Reuters 2018-03-08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoePai Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Must have helped Dow Chemicals profits 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Sounds like a Storm in a D - cup to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotsak Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 I always find a good use for a big rack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmarlin Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Reporters must be jealous to make this news. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RobFord Posted March 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2018 555. Trump stiffed his personal lawyer. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-lawyer-cohen-reportedly-complained-to-associates-that-stormy-daniels-payment-had-not-been-reimbursed-2018-03-05 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKr Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 won in arbitration like " I win but you have to take the money " or what does it mean ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beats56 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 5 hours ago, JoePai said: Must have helped Dow Chemicals profits Better living thru science.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 The papers filed by SD’s lawyers refer, to amongst other things, ‘paternity claims’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zaphod reborn Posted March 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2018 38 minutes ago, KKr said: won in arbitration like " I win but you have to take the money " or what does it mean ? Trump didn't win. He applied ex parte (without the other party's knowledge) to an arbitrator on an emergency basis for preliminary injunction which was granted until the arbitration case was heard. The problem is that Trump abandoned the arbitration. However, before Stormy moves to dismiss the arbitration, it is better to attack the contract and get a court order that there never was an agreement and that will invalidate the arbitration proceeding. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Srikcir Posted March 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2018 5 hours ago, PatOngo said: Sounds like a Storm in a D - cup to me! Probably what Trump was thinking when he chose the pseudonym David Dennison for the agreement. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Boon Mee Posted March 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2018 It was already decided under arbitration several years ago so it's a dead issue. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ilostmypassword Posted March 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2018 55 minutes ago, Boon Mee said: It was already decided under arbitration several years ago so it's a dead issue. Evidence? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Boon Mee said: It was already decided under arbitration several years ago so it's a dead issue. Trump had a confidentiality agreement with SD. Trump and his lawyers openly discussed what they believe is their side of the story. SD is now going to court to argue that since Trump and his lawyers broke the agreement then the agreement has been invalidated and she can now speak on the matter and/or sell her story. Seems fair to me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 And then there’s the matter of where did the $130K come from?! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HLover Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: And then there’s the matter of where did the $130K come from?! Services rendered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 15 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: And then there’s the matter of where did the $130K come from?! Actually, it came from Trump's lawyer. There were reports that the lawyer was complaining that Trump hadn't reimbursed him for the expenditure. Now that the expenditure has been revealed, the lawyer says he gave it on his own, unprompted by Trump. Sounds believable. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted March 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2018 31 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said: Actually, it came from Trump's lawyer. There were reports that the lawyer was complaining that Trump hadn't reimbursed him for the expenditure. Now that the expenditure has been revealed, the lawyer says he gave it on his own, unprompted by Trump. Sounds believable. Do you mind if we drop the 'actually'. Trumps advisors and associates, including lawyers, have a habit of making categorical statements that they later retract. I think it advisable to wait for the investigation to be completed before we state what 'actually' happened. Incidentally, lawyers are prohibited from making payments on behalf of clients without the client's consent (instruction), so either instruction was received [why pay SD if there was no story] or the payment was not instructed in which case the lawyer has questions to answer. I'm betting Mueller leans on the lawyer and I'll wager the lawyer sings. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Again, Trump is between zebra poop and alligator vomit. And again, there is absolutely nothing too low for Trump to do - nothing will alienate his hard core fan base. Gary Hart was running for prez in 1988. He was leading the field among Dems - heading to the convention. He was a fine man; intelligent, well-versed, capable, .....all the qualities Americans should look for in a president. .....yet he dropped out. Why? Because of one still photo showing an attractive woman sitting on his lap, outside on a boat. How times have changed! Even what Bill Clinton did for 3 minutes with Monica Lewinski looks quaint from today's perspective - where Trump gets Putin to pre-approve his Cabinet picks, and is in 29 other quagmires. The only good thing about Trump staying in office, is it shows Americans the depravity of the Republican Party and Bible-Thumpers (who have no problem with a man grabbing pussies, and lying as easily looking out a window). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 the title: trump-won-stormy-daniels-legal-case-in-arbitration .....is simply not true. I've been watching/listening to a bunch of commentaries from today's news shows, and not one lawyer backs up that assertion. It was a mouth fart from Sarah Huckabee, nothing more. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JCauto Posted March 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2018 3 hours ago, Boon Mee said: It was already decided under arbitration several years ago so it's a dead issue. So why was Trump's lawyer paying a porn star $130,000 and then going to arbitration to get a gag order? If Obama had done this, would you have been taking the same position? What a fine leader and exemplar for the world is your man Donald. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 4 hours ago, Boon Mee said: It was already decided under arbitration several years ago so it's a dead issue. Not several years ago. More likely a ruling from the arbitration (retired) judge last year came after Daniels reacted with innuendos of undisclosed information when Cohen began revealing some of the information covered by the nondisclosure agreement. As to "decided," the arbitrator only imposed a "temporary restraining order," ie., until a final decision was made. According to Daniel's attorney even this is faulty as there's no evidence that Trump has an agreement with Daniels (restraining order was applied by a shield entity, not by Trump) nor did Trump pay her for nondisclosure. But should the nondisclosure agreement itself be deemed incomplete, ie., lacks appropriate signatures, Daniel's attorney argues in a lawsuit against Trump that it is then unenforceable. Trump has won little if anything. Especially now if he has to respond to the lawsuit, ie., give testimony. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langsuan Man Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 And Trump is "upset" with his press secretary for giving the story legs......how could you win something that you were not a part of...... http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/377346-cnn-trump-upset-with-sarah-sanders-over-handling-of-stormy-daniels Quote President Trump is upset with White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders for her handling on Wednesday of questions about allegations that the president once had an affair with adult-film actress Stormy Daniels. CNN's Jim Acosta reported that Trump is "very unhappy" with his press secretary after she acknowledged at a press briefing on Wednesday that Trump has been involved in a legal dispute with Daniels stemming from her allegations. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bundooman Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 13 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: And then there’s the matter of where did the $130K come from?! Yes, good point. Why would Trumpy's lawyer fork out to the woman such a large sum of money from, 'his own pocket', in the first place if the story isn't true? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Trump is like a hairless cat stuck in a cage with 120 porcupines. Whichever way he turns to escape, he's in trouble. Watching this is more fun than watching fireworks on Satchmo's b'day (4th of July). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 On 3/8/2018 at 8:00 PM, Chomper Higgot said: Do you mind if we drop the 'actually'. Actually, Cohen took out a home equity loan of $130,000 to pay Daniels. Surely, he expected to be reimbursed, ie., from the Trump Organization that was notified of Cohen's payment. https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/09/politics/michael-cohen-trump-organization-email-stormy-daniels/index.html When it comes from statements by people associated with the Trump Organization, never expect the first version to be the truth - maybe several irritations later when the truth box them in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 (edited) On 08/03/2018 at 7:04 PM, Chomper Higgot said: Trump had a confidentiality agreement with SD. Trump and his lawyers openly discussed what they believe is their side of the story. SD is now going to court to argue that since Trump and his lawyers broke the agreement then the agreement has been invalidated and she can now speak on the matter and/or sell her story. Seems fair to me. The agreement was only signed by his lawyer and not by him, so it shouldn't be valid to start with. Edited March 10, 2018 by FritsSikkink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 1 hour ago, FritsSikkink said: The agreement was only signed by his lawyer and not by him, so it shouldn't be valid to start with. And if not valid, another porn star Jessica Drake who was another party to the agreement would be free to tell her story. During the 2016 presidential campaign, Drake accused the future president of grabbing her, kissing her and offering her $10,000 for sex at a July 2006 event in Lake Tahoe, the same one where Clifford said she met Trump. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jessica-drake-stormy-daniels-trump_us_5aa1c7f2e4b01b9b0a39a37d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 On 3/8/2018 at 10:53 AM, webfact said: Clifford and Trump had an intimate relationship that began in the summer of 2006, not long after Trump's wife Melania gave birth to their son Barron, and lasted well into 2007. Like father, like son? Donald Trump Jr. reportedly had an affair with singer Aubrey O’Day in 2011-2012 while he was still married to his wife, Vanessa, who was pregnant with their third child at the time. https://www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/a19492610/donald-trump-jr-and-aubrey-oday-affair-rumors/ Do the Evangelists have a family package deal for Trump mulligans? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 15 minutes ago, Srikcir said: Like father, like son? The douche doesn't fall far from the bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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