First Attempt - Tourist Visa for Thai Girlfriend..... Any advice would be appreciated!

[Discover]

This is my first post, I have never had any dealings with Visa's before.  I have read through many posts on this forum which I have found very helpful.

I have drafted my Invitation/Sponsorship letter, I hope to gain some feedback from anyone whom have experience on this subject.

 

Thanks.

 

 

Dear Immigration Office,

 

This letter I am writing this statement in support of Miss XXX XXX visa application, this to confirm the genuine between XXX XXX and XXX XXX.

I XXX XXX am pleased to provide this letter of invitation for my girlfriend Miss XXX XXX who resides at:

Address: Bangkok, Thailand

 

Personal Details

Name: XXX XXX

D.O.B: XXX

Status: Single

 

I am a British National. I am thirty-five years old, a qualified professional and employed as a Civil Enforcement Office in a firm in the North West of England and have been for the last 3 Months, as I currently changed job roles. Before taking on this role, I worked as an Army Recruiting and Mentoring Staff for the past 6 Years. Also I am a qualified fully trained Army Reserve Soldier based in XXX and have been so for the past 13 Years.

 

Please see enclosed documents of:

·         Date of Birth Certificate

 

Accommodation

During her visit in the UK Miss XXX XXX will be staying in my semi-detached house which has sufficient size to accommodate. The house is mortgaged to XXX XXX and is living with his father and mother.

   House Address:  Merseyside, England

The House has 4 bedrooms, 2 living rooms, 1 study/computer room, 1 kitchen and poultry, 2 toilets, garden and front parking area.

Please see enclosed documents of:

·         House Title Deed

·         Documentation of the Mortgage Offer

·         Full payment history – Monthly payments

·         Council Tax Bill

·         Pictures of the house and rooms

 

History of our relationship

I first met XXX XXX on the 25^th of May 2017 whilst on holiday in Thailand we met in a Coffee Shop in Terminal 21 Shopping mall complex Bangkok, where we shared a table because of extremely busy hours at the time, there was an attraction on both sides, and I eventually asked her out for dinner. Over the next few days we struck up a close friendship that quickly developed into a relationship. For the remainder of my holiday in Thailand we were inseparable and Miss XXX XXX ended up staying together with me at my hotel.

When I returned to UK we kept in touch on a daily basis via ‘WhatsApp Video Call’.

I returned to Thailand to visit Miss XXX XXX on the 26^th of September 2017 and this time Miss XXX XXX invited me to live with her in her apartment in Bangkok for the duration of my stay. During that time I had the opportunity to meet his son whom is 17 years old.  We also travelled to Hong Kong spent 2 days to visit my family and 3 days in Macau China. Our relationship grew very strong and Miss XXX XXX thought it was time I met her family members whom resides in a remote village, we spent 3 days in Nakhon Si Thammarat. I returned to England on the 11^th of November due to work and travel commitments. Whilst in England we kept in contact daily via ‘WhatsApp’s Video Call’.

The future intentions of our relationship is marriage. After discussing we both wish to live as man and wife in England, returning to Thailand periodically to her family. I like to invite Miss XXX XXX to England, see if it’s possible for her to settle in another environment. I have a mortgage that has been payed into many years, so we will owe our home one day.

Please see enclosed documents of:

·         Flights for Thailand (May& Sept 2017)

·         Visa for Thailand (May & Sept 2017)

·         Flights for Hong Kong

·         Hotel for Hong Kong

·         Visa for Hong Kong

·         Hotel for Macau, China

·         Visa for Macau, China

·         Flights for Nathon Si Thammarat

·         Evidence of Video Calls (June 2017 – March 2018)

·         Photos of staying together

 

Purpose and Period of stay in the United Kingdom

I have asked Miss XXX XXX to visit me in England to meet my parents and family in the UK. We would like to spent time in England for 45 days. Arrive UK Wednesday 25^th of April 2018 and return to Thailand on the 09^th of June 2018.

After the 45 days duration Miss XXX XXX will return to Thailand and continue working, continue her responsibilities as a mother looking after her Son and currently owes 4 acre of land in her home town.

Please see enclosed documents of:

·         Travel Itinerary

 

Financial and Living Expense

While Miss XXX XXX travels to UK she will spend a majority of the time staying in the address stated above free of charge, as its spacious enough to uphold an extra individual.

During Miss XXX XXX stay I be providing £2250 funds and attend to expenditures required whilst she in the UK to keep her personal expenditures to a minimum.

Please see enclosed documents of:

·         Annual Tax Free Bonus £1850 to be credited for 01/05/2018

I am a Civil Enforcement Officer Based in XXX, a Parking Services Company NSL. I am Full Time permanent basis but have only been working with them for 3 months which I have already passed my probation period. Also I’m an Army Reservist and have been for the last 13 years which is currently based in XXX.

I understand that you require 6 months’ Payslip and bank statements but due to my change of job role and couple of month’s unemployment in the process, I do not meet that criteria. That is why I have asked my job to provide evidence of incoming funds to support the statement above.

I will still try and provide all the up to date bank statements and payslips available.

 

Travel Insurance purchased

Name: XXX XXX

D.O.B: XXX

Destination: Worldwide Ex USA, Canada, Canary Islands and Mexico

Scheme:

Start Date:

End Date:

Duration: 46 Days

Type: Single Trip

 

Please see enclosed documents of:

·         Full Travel Insurance Scheme

 

Declaration

I will be responsible for my girlfriends travel costs, maintenance, accommodation and care and shall ensure that during her stay in the UK, she does not have recourse to any public funds. I also undertake and responsible to ensure her return to Thailand, after visit in the UK.

 

Should you require any further information, please contact me on:

Phone: XXXX XXX XXXX

Mobile: +44 XXXXXXXXXX

E-mail: [email protected]

Sincerely,

XXX XXX

 

 

Edited March 19, 2018 by Discover

[BritTim]

First, I wish you both all the good fortune in the world.

 

You should be aware that this post is in the wrong forum. Do not worry. Within a few hours, a moderator will move it for you.

 

Assuming cost is not a major consideration, get the assistance of a good immigration lawyer, familiar with visa applications to the UK. I am no expert, but I do know your proposed letter will raise some red flags. Framing applications for visas for Thai girlfriends to visit the UK is a skilled process, not easy to get right. Besides engaging a good immigration lawyer, it is desirable that you attend the Embassy with her when she is instructed to attend for interview (which you should expect).

 

There are others with more recent experience of applying for UK visas, and I think it best if I leave any further comments to them. Once again, good luck!

[anon789561]

if you can. cut all that and get her to get a tourist visa as going to the uk as a visitor to your family, sightseeing or better still an english language course for a month  or so. funds may well be required in her name which hopefully you can sort. (going down the route you are thinking they'll try to block everything as they'll suspect her as moving there). best your name isn't brought into it other than friends, no long term plans. as soon as she is in the UK get married at a registry office and you take it from there.

cute story BTW best of luck

Edited March 19, 2018 by Happy enough

[rasg]

The OP has had mostly poor advice so far.

 

Lost of mistakes in the letter including missing words and I'm not sure where poultry comes into it!  The language used in the letter is a bit off to me. Too tired to reply right now and I'll go through it in the morning.

 

The OP does not need a visa company to do this. Or stuff her account with money. It's the worst thing to do and very poor advice. The OP does need to be the sponsor on this.

[theoldgit]

@Discover in my humble opinion the your supporting letter is full of waffle, the ECO will most likely speed read it and may well miss any salient points you're trying to make.

 

Let's go back to the begining and start again, I hope I'm not sounding too patronising, my apologies if I do.

 

You need to keep in mind that it's your girlfriends application, it's her that needs to convince the Entry Clearance Officer, the person who makes the decision, whether to grant your girlfriend a visa, or refuse her application, that her proposed visit is genuine, afforadable and that, on the balance of probabilities she will return home, or at least leave the UK, at the conclusion of her trip..

 

Your girlfriend should detail the purpose and the length of her proposed visit to the UK, and briefly outline what she would be doing there, especially when you may be at work. 

She should detail, and provide evidence of, her finances and living arrangements here in Bangkok and, most importantly her ties here. You have mentioned her work so she should give details of her empoyment, these details should include the name of her employer and position, her salary and she should include a letter from her employer confirming that she has been granted leave of absence for her holiday, though 45 days might be considered a fairly long holiday for an employed person, I don't think that the ECO would be convinced that looking after her children is, on its own, a sufficient tie to her home country. 

 

As you're offering her accomodation and will be supporting her during her trip you should detail what support you're providing, provide evidence that you can do so, and satisfy the ECO that it's appropriate for you to do so.

 

If I may go through the points in your letter, para by para. You've over egged the first para giving your details, most of this will be on the application form, your details can be found on the copy of your passports bio page which your girlfriend will have included.

 

Likewise you have, IMO, given too many details of your girlfriend, all the details are in her application.

 

I'm confused at the details of your house, do you share the house with your parents, it isn't clear. All you need is a brief description of the property and confirmation that there's sufficient room for her to stay, you don't need all the supporting evidence.

 

By all means include details of your relationship, though cut out some of the detail, certainly mention your trips to Hong Kong and Macau, though there are no visas to include as neither you or your girlfiend needed visas for either, stamps in her passport will suffice along with the correspondingstamps in your passport, inlude the pages with the application, no photos either.

 

You are right in including details of you financial position and employment, this is very important as you need to satisfy the ECO that you can afford to support her during her stay.

 

There is no requirement for travel insurance to be purchased, though it's obviously vital that she purchases adequate insurance once her visa has been issued.

 

Your declaration is meaningless and unenforcable, you have already stated that you will support her during her stay, but you cannot ensure that she will return home, if for any reason she didn't, you couldn't be held accountable.

 

I have reworded your initial letter, I have to say that this is only my opinion and how I would have drafted your words, at the end of the day you must write as you see fit.

 

Good luck to you both.  

 

 

 

Dear Entry Clearance Officer

 

I write in support of Miss XXX XXX  application for a  General Visit Visa to visit me at my home in the UK from xxx to xxx.,

 

I am a British National. I am thirty-five years old, and  have been employed as a Civil Enforcement Officer for 3 Months. My previous role was as an Army Recruiting and Mentoring officer, I held that role for 6 Years, I have been an Army Reservist 13 Years.

 

Accommodation

During her visit in the UK Miss XXX XXX will be staying at my home which I can confirm has sufficient accommodation for us both. The house is has four bedrooms with my father and mother one of the bedrooms. [You need to clarify who actually owns the property and how many bedroom are free, you don't need all the supporting evidence]

 

·          

History of our relationship

I first met XXX XXX on the 25^th of May 2017 whilst on holiday in Thailand we met in a Coffee Shop in Bangkok where we shared a table and chatted, I eventually asked her out for dinner. Over the next few days we struck up a close friendship that developed into a relationship. 

When I returned to UK we kept in touch on a daily basis via ‘WhatsApp Video Call’.

I returned to Thailand to visit Miss XXX XXX on the 26^th of September 2017,  Miss XXX XXX invited me to stay with her in her apartment in Bangkok for the duration of my stay. During that time I had the opportunity to meet her son whom is 17 years old.  We also travelled to Hong Kong spent 2 days to visit my family and 3 days in Macau China. Our relationship grew very strong and Miss XXX XXX thought it was time I met her family members whom resides in a remote village, we spent 3 days in Nakhon Si Thammarat. I returned to England on the 11^th of November due to work and travel commitments. Whilst in England we kept in contact daily via ‘WhatsApp’s Video Call’.

 

Purpose and Period of stay in the United Kingdom

I have asked Miss XXX XXX to visit me in the UK to meet my parents and family in the UK in my home enviorment. She would like to visit me for 45 days, from  25^th of April 2018 returning home to Thailand on the 09^th of June 2018. 

During her stay in the UK we plan to [write a sentence or two about your plans]

 

Financial and Living Expense

During her time in the UK Miss XXX XXX plans spend a majority of the time staying at my home [say where else she would stay]

During Miss XXX XXX visit I be providing sufficient fund to support her and have provided evidence of my ability to do so. and attend to expenditures required whilst she in the UK to keep her personal expenditures to a minimum.

As I have previously mentioned, I am a Civil Enforcement Officer where I am employed full time permanent basis and have been so for 3 months, my current salary is £45,000 [or whatever] and I am due to be paid a tax free bonus of £1,850 on 1 May [only include the bonus if you can provide evidence to support] 

I have attached bank statements covering a six month period, this period includes the period I was unemployed prior to my current employment, along with payslips for my current role.

 

I trust I have provided you with sufficient evidence to satisfy you that I am able to provide suitable accomodation and financial support to Miss XXX during her proposed trip to he UK, in the event that you feel I can offer any further information, or you require any clarification, please feel free to contact me on: [they won't contact you]

Phone: XXXX XXX XXXX

Mobile: +44 XXXXXXXXXX

E-mail: [email protected]

 

Sincerely,

XXX XXX

 

As I say this is how I would draft your letter, you must do as you see fit, I'm sure others will also have a view.

 

Once again, good luck to you both.

 

 

 

 

[theoldgit]

I have removed a couple of unhelpful or off topic posts.

[Bangkok Barry]

The main interest of the UK authorities is whether or not there is a risk of her remaining in the UK. So they need to have details of her ties to Thailand and reason(s) to return to her own country. They will want details of her employment. As simple as that. Your letter reads as if you are applying for a visa for yourself. They read through applications all day long and really don't care much about your circumstances and there is a risk they will get bored reading through things they are not interested in and don't need to know and just bin it.

 

Keep it simple and concise.

[bigyin]

When I did this a couple of years ago I completed the application form first and only wrote the letter afterwards to fill in any gaps and to stress anything I thought was unclear.  The application almost forces you to address the major issues.  As stated earlier showing a strong reason to return to Thailand is critical to the success of the application.  Just on an earlier post there is certainly no need to employ an immigration lawyer or use an agent and there is no interview anymore.  It is simply a drop off of the completed documentation and you can accompany your girlfriend but will not be allowed in with her.

[anon789561]

I did it about 20 years ago and it took 4 appointments at the embassy and then it was face to face interviews. we had lived together for a few years in bkk and produced all our bills etc to prove i was'nt trafficking her 555 and that we both had decent jobs to come back to and she was a graduate bla bla bla. they suspected we were moving there so made it very difficult. the last interview i really had to convince the guy. said to him basically. mate, we've been together a few years and i have spent alot of time with her family and we just want to visit my family for xmas. wasn't convinced. said to him. listen mate, i hate england, hardly even spent anytime there when i was a kid, we are coming back. please mate! he looked at me unconvinced and said OK. make sure she's back as planned. got married within a few weeks at wandsworth registry office, got her indefinate leave to remain then lived between BKK and LDN for a couple of years. the rest is history. still together, she's a british citizen now and ended up doing her masters at surrey uni. i lied basically, naughty me ; ). anyway, what i am trying to point out for the OP is had she just applied for her own tourist visa or student visa without them knowing about our relationship then i think it would have been easier. all they cared about is that she would not stay in the uk. for the OP as he has solid work in the UK and is showing that their is a relationship between them then they may suspect that she will end up staying there with him which i think they would try to block. mine was a long time ago so may be different now. just trying to help. and best of luck to the OP

Edited March 20, 2018 by Happy enough

[jamie2009]

14 hours ago, BritTim said:

First, I wish you both all the good fortune in the world.

 

You should be aware that this post is in the wrong forum. Do not worry. Within a few hours, a moderator will move it for you.

 

Assuming cost is not a major consideration, get the assistance of a good immigration lawyer, familiar with visa applications to the UK. I am no expert, but I do know your proposed letter will raise some red flags. Framing applications for visas for Thai girlfriends to visit the UK is a skilled process, not easy to get right. Besides engaging a good immigration lawyer, it is desirable that you attend the Embassy with her when she is instructed to attend for interview (which you should expect).

 

There are others with more recent experience of applying for UK visas, and I think it best if I leave any further comments to them. Once again, good luck!

 

14 hours ago, BritTim said:

First, I wish you both all the good fortune in the world.

 

You should be aware that this post is in the wrong forum. Do not worry. Within a few hours, a moderator will move it for you.

 

Assuming cost is not a major consideration, get the assistance of a good immigration lawyer, familiar with visa applications to the UK. I am no expert, but I do know your proposed letter will raise some red flags. Framing applications for visas for Thai girlfriends to visit the UK is a skilled process, not easy to get right. Besides engaging a good immigration lawyer, it is desirable that you attend the Embassy with her when she is instructed to attend for interview (which you should expect).

 

There are others with more recent experience of applying for UK visas, and I think it best if I leave any further comments to them. Once again, good luck!

 

Immigration lawyer for what ? I applied and got a Visitors Visa for my Thai G.F. last year. Completed the Application Form, Sponsors Letter, proof of relationship, where we would be staying in the UK and proof that I could support her whilst she was in the U.K.

She doesn’t work, own property, car, land but in the Sponsors letter I put other reasons why she would return to Thailand.

Appointment VFS at Trendy, you are not allowed in to the Waiting Area with her, they checked her papers at the Counter, fingerprinted. Passport returned in 2 weeks, Visa included.

One tip don’t tell lies or the Visa will be refused and possibly any subsequent applications.

 

Edited March 20, 2018 by jamie2009

[KBsinter]

In your circumstances you MUST have a letter from her employers,stating 

that 45 days is within there boundarys ( rather a long time, especially for first time

application) good luck !!! 

[maddox41]

I take my gf back to Australia all the time  and it's harder to get a visa for Thais then the UK.

You are giving to much info on the letter keep it  short only tell them what they need to know or ask. 

If you have money in your UK acc a job and you own the house all the better 

If your gf does not work or if she works in a spa or massage  you may have a issue  if she does have a government job or high end private sector no drama 

The best thing to supply if she is working is a letter from her employer 

Good luck 

If Yingluck can live there Scot free I'm sure you gf will get a tourist visa 

 

[anon789561]

1 minute ago, ScotBkk said:

Pot calling the kettle black comes to mind ........................

and the claim that the wise one will be commenting to set him straight in the morning didn't transpire

[worrab]

Only thing that is missing as far as I can see is proof of your relationship. This is in regards of photos of you together and anything written between you. This was all crucial when I did the same for my g/f back in 2015. Ended up printing off around 60 odd pages of Skype conversations when unable to video chat!!

And as mentioned by other members, the reason for her return to Thailand cannot be stressed strongly enough!! 

Our first application was rejected and within their letter stating why, it was very obvious they had not read all the supporting papers. I had stated in my papers, as had my g/f in hers, that as I was retiring from work and moving to Thailand, she would be returning home. The second application passed when the agent I was using very craftily put some barbed comments within my g/f's letter pointing out the fact they had not read everything. 

Good luck to you in your application. 

[krabi local]

I think there is far too much waffle in your letter.

My GF applied for a U.K. visitors Visa and was successful first time.

 

Completed the form online and I wrote a short covering letter.

 

Regarding accommodation in UK I just said she will be living with me at xxxxxaddress.

I gave them details of my money in the U.K. and who was paying for the trip.

 

She added details of her savings in Thailand, a letter from her employer with current salary and details of her health insurance.

 

That was about it

[terryofcrete]

1 hour ago, jamie2009 said:

 

 

Immigration lawyer for what ? I applied and got a Visitors Visa for my Thai G.F. last year. Completed the Application Form, Sponsors Letter, proof of relationship, where we would be staying in the UK and proof that I could support her whilst she was in the U.K.

She doesn’t work, own property, car, land but in the Sponsors letter I put other reasons why she would return to Thailand.

Appointment VFS at Trendy, you are not allowed in to the Waiting Area with her, they checked her papers at the Counter, fingerprinted. Passport returned in 2 weeks, Visa included.

One tip don’t tell lies or the Visa will be refused and possibly any subsequent applications.

 

I am interested because I understood that there was little chance of a girl getting a tourist visa if she has no “official” job or proof of earnings or no job to return to. 

My ex wife’s brother is a diplomat and said she would not get it ! I am Irish, but I think the rules are the same if not more strict in Ireland. A friend of mine , who is quite wealthy was unsuccessful in obtaining a tourist visa for his  Thai lady friend . What is your secret... ... well done ! 

[Jip99]

9 minutes ago, terryofcrete said:

I am interested because I understood that there was little chance of a girl getting a tourist visa if she has no “official” job or proof of earnings or no job to return to. 

My ex wife’s brother is a diplomat and said she would not get it ! I am Irish, but I think the rules are the same if not more strict in Ireland. A friend of mine , who is quite wealthy was unsuccessful in obtaining a tourist visa for his  Thai lady friend . What is your secret... ... well done ! 

 

 

My missus doesn’t work and has had 4 UK Standard Visit Visas. I have been involved in dozens more where the applicant does not work.

 

Show evidence of valid reasons for her to return to Thailand and that will satisfy 1 out of 3 of the key criteria. The risk of flight is deemed to be quite high with Thais so having strong family ties and owning land/property is fairly important. Having a job to go back is quite a strong reason for returning...... things like children are not.

[rasg]

33 minutes ago, Happy enough said:

and the claim that the wise one will be commenting to set him straight in the morning didn't transpire

No need. Theoldgit said it all when he rewrote the OP's letter.

 

What you don't know is that I also sent a private message to the OP offering copies of the sponsor letters that I used for my wife's visit visas...

[anon789561]

5 minutes ago, rasg said:

No need. Theoldgit said it all when he rewrote the OP's letter.

 

What you don't know is that I also sent a private message to the OP offering copies of the sponsor letters that I used for my wife's visit visas...

55. you just wake up? fair enough mate

[khunPer]

3 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

The main interest of the UK authorities is whether or not there is a risk of her remaining in the UK. So they need to have details of her ties to Thailand and reason(s) to return to her own country. They will want details of her employment. As simple as that.

Yes, Bangkok Berry said it: "...whether or not there is a risk of her remaining in the UK."

 

It's the same for most European countries – I'm not British so my experience is Schengen – so proof of employment (often minimum 6 month) or proof of self-employed business owner, salary or income documentation, a return ticket that can be changed (in case the friend wish to return earlier), and within Schengen they also wished to see bank statement(s) to show that the invited friend has access to some funds at home in Thailand.

 

From the inviting person proof of funds to pay for the stay, and residence of a size big enough for accommodation of the invited guest.

 

Often the embassy will have a guide about what documentation they wish – including history and proof of relationship – you can do it yourself, no need for an agent.

 

I applied for UK-visa for my Thai girlfriend some years ago (2006, so some things mas have changed), as we wished to visit Britain as tourists, and Britain is not member of Schengen. It was very easy, compared to a Schengen-invitation, probably because I also was a tourist. We asked for a week, my GF got a six month visa.

 

Wish you good luck with your invitation...

[theoldgit]

Only thing that is missing as far as I can see is proof of your relationship. This is in regards of photos of you together and anything written between you. This was all crucial when I did the same for my g/f back in 2015. Ended up printing off around 60 odd pages of Skype

The UKVI now specifically advise against including photographs with the supporting documents for visa applications.

[jamie2009]

1 minute ago, terryofcrete said:

I am interested because I understood that there was little chance of a girl getting a tourist visa if she has no “official” job or proof of earnings or no job to return to. 

My ex wife’s brother is a diplomat and said she would not get it ! I am Irish, but I think the rules are the same if not more strict in Ireland. A friend of mine , who is quite wealthy was unsuccessful in obtaining a tourist visa for his  Thai lady friend . What is your secret... ... well done ! 

My G.F. as I said had no assets in Thailand or money in the Bank, I wrote in my Sponsors Letter that I supported her in Thailand and would be in the UK. 

No one was more surprised than me after hearing all the scaremongering about a Visa being refused.

This is an extract from my Sponsors Letter which I edited on numerous occasions.

_{The reasons that can be given for guaranteeing someone will not overstay in the U.K.is that they own property/land and be in employment in their home country, x has neither. The main reason X will return to Thailand is she has no funds as can be seen on the Application Form. I fund X and our son for everything and under no circumstances would I fund her to stay illegally in the U.K.she has no family or friends in the U.K. either who could fund her.}

_{The other reasons x will return to Thailand are, she possesses deep Thai values and very strong Family ties. Given the length of our relationship in Thailand, over 3 years I would suggest it is highly unlikely she would do anything to jeopardize our relationship or my financial support for her and our son x}

_{I would also say that her character is such that there are no circumstances where she would wish or want to remain in the U.K. illegally at the end of her visit. I will be accompanying X and our son on the flight there and back.}   

_{I have a Long Term Visa and we have long term rental agreement in a house in Pattaya.}

_{Our son X has a U.K. Passport so doesn’t require a Visa.}

 

 

[bobrussell]

This is not scaremongering although some of the advice is not that good. 

In simple terms an applicant must:

1) Show a purpose for the visit

2) Show that it is affordable

3) Show that on the balance of probability that they will leave within the terms of the visa.

 

You are demonstrating that there is purpose,  you are paying and can afford to cover the cost.

There is nothing within the letter to indicate any reasons to return.

 

It is possible to get a visit visa for someone not working but it can be challenging especially if there is no prior travel history. This is a shame for the genuine but the result of misuse of visas (overstays etc) in the past.

 

Edit: the last post suggests you have a settled life in Thailand and this can be used to support the application.

 

Edited March 20, 2018 by bobrussell

[anon789561]

1 hour ago, jamie2009 said:

My G.F. as I said had no assets in Thailand or money in the Bank, I wrote in my Sponsors Letter that I supported her in Thailand and would be in the UK. 

No one was more surprised than me after hearing all the scaremongering about a Visa being refused.

This is an extract from my Sponsors Letter which I edited on numerous occasions.

_{The reasons that can be given for guaranteeing someone will not overstay in the U.K.is that they own property/land and be in employment in their home country, x has neither. The main reason X will return to Thailand is she has no funds as can be seen on the Application Form. I fund X and our son for everything and under no circumstances would I fund her to stay illegally in the U.K.she has no family or friends in the U.K. either who could fund her.}

_{The other reasons x will return to Thailand are, she possesses deep Thai values and very strong Family ties. Given the length of our relationship in Thailand, over 3 years I would suggest it is highly unlikely she would do anything to jeopardize our relationship or my financial support for her and our son x}

_{I would also say that her character is such that there are no circumstances where she would wish or want to remain in the U.K. illegally at the end of her visit. I will be accompanying X and our son on the flight there and back.}   

_{I have a Long Term Visa and we have long term rental agreement in a house in Pattaya.}

_{Our son X has a U.K. Passport so doesn’t require a Visa.}

 

 

she has no family in the UK. our son has a UK passport. not quite the same as the OP's position

[rasg]

17 hours ago, Happy enough said:

if you can. cut all that and get her to get a tourist visa as going to the uk as a visitor to your family, sightseeing or better still an english language course for a month  or so. funds may well be required in her name which hopefully you can sort. (going down the route you are thinking they'll try to block everything as they'll suspect her as moving there). best your name isn't brought into it other than friends, no long term plans. as soon as she is in the UK get married at a registry office and you take it from there.

cute story BTW best of luck

18 hours ago, BritTim said:

Assuming cost is not a major consideration, get the assistance of a good immigration lawyer, familiar with visa applications to the UK. I am no expert, but I do know your proposed letter will raise some red flags. Framing applications for visas for Thai girlfriends to visit the UK is a skilled process, not easy to get right. Besides engaging a good immigration lawyer, it is desirable that you attend the Embassy with her when she is instructed to attend for interview (which you should expect).

My remarks were to do with these two posts.

 

An immigration lawyer isn’t needed. There is enough help on here for all but the most difficult cases. A lot of the time where an applicant has applied multiple times with refusals. There is no interview process and when the girlfriend attends VFS they simply take the paperwork and take photos and biometrics. Nobody is allowed in with the applicant when they go to VFS. In place of an interview the applicant, employer and possibly even the sponsor may get a phone call from UKVI to confirm any information. The trick is give them all the information in the application so they don't need to call. Many applications fail when an ECO calls an applicant because they can’t confirm basic information that has been put in the application.

 

If a girlfriend has no money or very little money of her own it's very important that she has a sponsor and stuffing money into a girlfriend's bank account will likely end up with a refusal. Getting married in a registry office on a tourist visa is possible (I have been told) but using my experience when I was married in June 2016 it is not simple. The UK government website states that you cannot marry or register a civil partnership, or give notice of marriage or civil partnership whilst on a visit visa.

 

The most difficult mountain to climb to get a visit visa is the reason to return, ties to Thailand or whatever you want to call it. Unless a girlfriend has a house and land, a job is the most common way to to prove that she will go back to Thailand.

[roo860]

I contacted 'the oldgit' prior to applying for a tourist visa for my wife, good advice from him, no pics, no letters, keep it simple. 6 months bank statements, did not even state what my job was.Visa issued in 7 days.

 

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[jacko45k]

On 3/20/2018 at 4:14 AM, Happy enough said:

if you can. cut all that and get her to get a tourist visa as going to the uk as a visitor to your family, sightseeing or better still an english language course for a month  or so. funds may well be required in her name which hopefully you can sort. (going down the route you are thinking they'll try to block everything as they'll suspect her as moving there). best your name isn't brought into it other than friends, no long term plans. as soon as she is in the UK get married at a registry office and you take it from there.

cute story BTW best of luck

If that is the case you will need to prove it.

If it is not the case I advise to not mention it. Lies, if discovered, will mean the application will be rejected and future ones more difficult.

 

I was successful in my first application but that was some 6 years ago and I believe the current situation has changed. I placed emphasis on proving we both had things to come back to in Thailand, my 'wife' had reasons to return to Thailand (land owned), and some money, and I had the finances to support her in the UK.

Good luck.

[Discover]

Sorry for the late reply...

 

Appropriate for all the criticism and advise, that's what i really needed!  So now i know I've provided to much detail and have lose ends

 

That's a extremely fair point! That's what gf told me, but can she back this up?!!

 

Back to rewriting this again with all the advise given above.

 

Cheers

[terryofcrete]

That is excellent ... thank you for sharing it. I think your property rental in Thailand and your son with a uk passport swings it. I do not have a strong connection like that . Much obliged


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[Bangkok Barry]

I must say she has a nice job that allows her to take 45 days off. Plus there was the trip to Hong Kong and Macau. Not many employers allow that.