Beating at the temple - husband and wife set to face serious child abuse charges

[webfact]

Beating at the temple - husband and wife set to face serious child abuse charges

 

Picture: Daily News

 

A husband and wife in Panat Nikhom, Chonburi are set to face assault and child abuse charges following the beating incident at Wat Thung Hiang at the weekend.

 

Two boys were beaten in front of other children then tied to a tree in the temple grounds after they were allegedly caught stealing 200 baht from some elders. The boys suffered bruising in the sustained assault, reported Daily News.

 

Yesterday 60 locals marched and gathered at the temple to call for action from the police for excessive punishment against the boys.

 

Sangwal Wanphirun, 64, told the gathering that she intervened and stopped the assault after seeing "Ta Yong" and his wife "Nang Nee" attack the boys.

 

The couple told those watching that this is a warning to others of what would happen if you steal.

 

Local mayor Nopalit Sermsaksasithorn spoke on behalf of the abbot Phra Mongkhon Moli who didn't want to get involved. Nopalit advised the angry crowd to go to the police and watchdog Damrongtham.

 

But Chonburi social services soon swung into action and took the two boys to the Panat Nikom cops to make a complaint.

 

Police have summonsed the couple to face charges of assault, child abuse and illegal detention. If they don't appear they will be arrested.

 

The children have been temporarily taken into care at a Bang Lamung children's home.

 

Source: Daily News

 

-- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2018-03-20

[colinneil]

Well done local people, what those cretins did was disgusting.

Now he to deal with the perps? Easy tie them to a tree, and beat them.

[NCC1701A]

OK all is forgiven. Now toss them on a scooter and ride them around without a helmet.

[mok199]

and the boys may suffer a future of orphanages...having children is taken to lightly in some countrys,..and is the root cause of many social issues...leading to the endless cycle of poverty, crime and abuse ...Stop having children if you cant care for them...its simple

Edited March 20, 2018 by mok199
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[nakhonandy]

Why didn't the abbot want to get involved?

It happened after all at the Wat and could hardly be seen as acceptable by a Buddhist.

 

Fortunately the locals had more courage and moral standards.

[Lupatria]

You can’t teach children to behave better by making them feel worse. When children feel better, they behave better! And it is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men, which is the case in most of the male population in this country.

Edited March 20, 2018 by Lupatria

[anon4637435435]

Dont mean to make light of it but the locals mayors assistance kids where i live, thanks to there racist parents throw firecrackers, make fake animal noises and slingshot stones at my house in the middle of the night not to mention hit my kid thats half the age. If i tie them to a tree will someone come take them away? 

[spidermike007]

Wow. Sounds like the parents really over reacted. In general, I would say the opposite is usually the case. I have been saying for a long time now, the youth of today are very scary people. They have little perspective on anything, and it seems that most parents worldwide, have lost the art of parenting. I am very, very fortunate to not have children. But, if I had them, I would be very strict. Children need boundaries, much like pets. They will test you, to determine where the limits are, and will try to find how far they can push you. I would not hesitate to show my kids where the line was!

 

These days parents are so hung up on trying to be "friends" with their kids, they hesitate to show them the limits. I see that everywhere I go these days. Here in Thailand it is very pronounced. I hear it is worse in China, where the parents spoil their kids rotten. It is very bad in the US.I am not apologizing for these parents, in this case. They were way over the top. I am speaking in general terms.

 

Please, no lectures on parent cruelty. I am NOT a believer in political correctness. On any level. Kids are kids. Parents are parents. In many cases, the kids own the parents. 

[samjaidee]

Nowhere in the article, either in English or Thai, does it say the the husband and wife are the parents of the two children who were beaten.

 

Why would a journalist omit such and important fact from the article?

 

Any thoughts, anyone? Any other sources that clarify their relationship?

[jackdd]

In the Thai version they write เด็ก which refers to any child, if they were the parents they would write ลูก which would mean son or daughter. So i'm quite sure that these are not the parents. Just two adults who are married and two random children.

Edited March 20, 2018 by jackdd

[Docno]

5 hours ago, colinneil said:

Well done local people, what those cretins did was disgusting.

Now he to deal with the perps? Easy tie them to a tree, and beat them.

I always love to see how Bronze Age, Old Testament notions of justice ('eye for an eye' etc.) seem to be so popular in these forums. Civilisation doesn't run too deep, it seems, even in the 21st Century...  

[Hayduke]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

The couple told those watching that this is a warning to others of what would happen if you steal.

 

If they want to demonstrate what happens when you steal...then these two boys should have been packed off to an inactive classroom.

 

 

Edited March 20, 2018 by Hayduke

[RichardColeman]

I'd quite approve of this if they were over 18. Bring back the stock for petty crime.

[tifino]

 

they were only young, still gaining experience from mum'n'dad

 

...still 'learning the ropes'

 

 

trouble is they got caught, and punished as mum'n'dad lost face

 

 

at least the public was knot impressed... so hopefully the ropes are still insitu, with some stronger knots

Edited March 20, 2018 by tifino

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

I don't understand what all the big deal is about here.

 

Is what this couple did to the two kids all that different that what various Thai teachers do to their students all the time -- beatings, whippings, humiliation, etc. etc. -- and seem to emerge from it unscathed after the usual "fact finding committee investigation".

 

Of course, I'm not condoning what occurred here. Just pointing out, similar stuff goes on all around, and those wrongdoers don't get punished -- but they should!

 

[franckfranck]

Were there any credible witness to the illegal act? Why do we believe everything that is published?

[mok199]

29 minutes ago, faraday said:

It happens in Farangistan also.

Farangistan..5555...

[OmarZaid]

1 hour ago, Lupatria said:

You can’t teach children to behave better by making them feel worse. When children feel better, they behave better! And it is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men, which is the case in most of the male population in this country.

 Agreed.   However, Solution ? ....  let them steal without rebuke or repercussions ?  

[NextStationBangkok]

In fact the parents feel helpless, that boys stealing money from someone.

 

Public punishment is wrong, but definitely the boys to be punished at home at least to correct them since they are young.

 

Otherwise it will become a regular habit. Other good thing they can try is, give them time to time 20 baht as pocket money, so that they don't feel that they are run out money or run for money.

 

Most wiser idea would be pay them 20 baht for every good work they do at home, cleaning home, doing home work, getting good marks, sawadee to elders etc. This way they know the value of the money and value of life too.

[JOC]

30 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

I'd quite approve of this if they were over 18. Bring back the stock for petty crime.

With an attitude like that I am sure, that the Saudi Embassy will give you a visa...

[Lupatria]

11 minutes ago, OmarZaid said:

 Agreed.   However, Solution ? ....  let them steal without rebuke or repercussions ?  

How about teaching and taking care of the kids in the first place instead of parking them on a couch, handing them a phone, and and tell them not to disturb? 

[wvavin]

Temple staffs would never get involved as this could affect their takings! Got it?

[tryasimight]

55 minutes ago, NextStationBangkok said:

In fact the parents feel helpless, that boys stealing money from someone.

 

Public punishment is wrong, but definitely the boys to be punished at home at least to correct them since they are young.

 

Otherwise it will become a regular habit. Other good thing they can try is, give them time to time 20 baht as pocket money, so that they don't feel that they are run out money or run for money.

 

Most wiser idea would be pay them 20 baht for every good work they do at home, cleaning home, doing home work, getting good marks, sawadee to elders etc. This way they know the value of the money and value of life too.

Seems like you have no idea of the value of 20 baht to a villager. It may be something we would not bother picking up if we dropped it but for many people it is quite an amount.

 

I don't think getting rewarded for doing what you have been told to do is part of the way of life in the village but getting punished for doing wrong is very much so. 

[sambum]

6 hours ago, mok199 said:

and the boys may suffer a future of orphanages...having children is taken to lightly in some countrys,..and is the root cause of many social issues...leading to the endless cycle of poverty, crime and abuse ...Stop having children if you cant care for them...its simple

"...Stop having children if you cant care for them.."

 

Couldn't agree more! And the same should apply all over the World - compulsory contraception/sterilisation if necessary! From the Abyssinian goat herder with a dozen kids holding his hands out to Oxfam, to the "career mums" of the UK costing the taxpayer millions of pounds every year in "Benefits" - if you can't afford to look after them, don't have them!

Edited March 20, 2018 by sambum

[zaZa9]

The way I read it , the amount was 200 baht - a days pay for a labourer in my tgs villiage - and 2 days pay for a bbq evening staff member.

So not a small amount to the villiagers - and worse ( to them and me as well ) , they stole it from Elders.

Things move much more slowly out in the bush , we all know that , and I think my tgs family would consider a parent remiss for not dishing out a belting.

So as far as i know , it comes down to how severe the corporal punishment was ..

If other elders intervened , then that was certainly the time to quit ...

 

But 'theft' is to be vigorously discouraged  out there - a local kid went into town and stole a motorbike. He was sentenced to 2 years jail a few days later .

And Nobody would wish that  sentence , at those jails , on any local family ... ever.

 

As to tieing the kids up in the Wat , well Ive never heard of this  happening before.

[BuaBS]

2 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

I'd quite approve of this if they were over 18. Bring back the stock for petty crime.

A good Singaporian caining .For < 18 as well.

Edited March 20, 2018 by BuaBS

[UnkleMoooose]

Nice to see the Thais disciplining their brats, especially males.

[Juan B Tong]

I nominate "Ta Yong" and his wife "Nang Nee" to be in charge of the punishment of the nationwide civil servant embezzlers of the poor people's money.

 

if they do this for a stolen 200 Bhat, what might they do for the theft of multimillion?

[NextStationBangkok]

57 minutes ago, tryasimight said:

Seems like you have no idea of the value of 20 baht to a villager. It may be something we would not bother picking up if we dropped it but for many people it is quite an amount.

 

I don't think getting rewarded for doing what you have been told to do is part of the way of life in the village but getting punished for doing wrong is very much so. 

 

What about 5 Baht or even 1 Baht let's say ? 

[tryasimight]

5 minutes ago, NextStationBangkok said:

 

What about 5 Baht or even 1 Baht let's say ? 

I understand what you are saying but it doesn't seem to be the norm around these parts - certainly not for the day to day stuff that is expected.

There may be a reward for some major achievement but for simply doing the right thing..... Zilch and maybe a thank you.  And I can honestly say I can see nothing wrong with that.

Edited March 20, 2018 by tryasimight