Thai Police push for a 12 points and you’re out system for driving licenses

[khunPer]

7 hours ago, rooster59 said:

...while three points are deducted for driving under the influence of alcohol or narcotics or a hit-and-run. The points deducted will be reinstated after a period of 12 months. 

So as long as one only do a "hit-and-run" three times per year, one's DL is safe...

[wgdanson]

55 minutes ago, natway09 said:

Driving under the influence is 8 points under a certain level.

12 month ban in UK, unless you can BS the judge into believing it to be being detrimental to your employment. 

[Cheops]

13 minutes ago, khunPer said:

So as long as one only do a "hit-and-run" three times per year, one's DL is safe...

 And you would still have room to do a red light runner 555

[DrTuner]

Granny 1 point, mom with a stroller 2 points .. yeah I remember the game from the good old non-PC era of the 80's, road warrior or something. Most Thais should score 100 within a week.

[trainman34014]

8 hours ago, Father Fintan Stack said:

Absolutely impossible to enforce and implement in this tinpot country.

 

Try again. 

 

This time start with the basics, otherwise this problem will get worse. 

 

To be honest I think it impossible to educate the masses here they have the attention span of a goldfish. 

I think that's being unfair to Goldfish !

[stanleycoin]

2 hours ago, Cheops said:

If they enforce this strictly, the average Thai driver would lose all 12 points within 1 week!

Yes. 

Fine by me,

but reckon the cops should be able to crush the idiots vehicle when they get to 12 points.

It would be great,   you could have crushing machines in each town just for this.

Win Win.  also give them a 10,000 baht fine.

After about 12 months of this , the driving and riding in Thailand would be so much better.

Thailand will only ever understand harsh measures, anything else is just pissing in the wind. 

 

Edited March 25, 2018 by stanleycoin

[amdy2206]

Who will care? No one worries about driving without a licence so why should a 12 point rule bother them?

[the guest]

Not particularly clever. Better to fine the drivers for each violation. The more they break the traffic laws, the higher the fine. Hurting people in their pocket normally works after a few fines.

[sead]

Guessing the pocketmoney goes up the lesser points you have lol

[anon537687643]

Imagine banning drivers In Thailand ! Totally meaningless because the banned drivers would ignore the ban! And the penalties in Country are putrid


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[Get Real]

you still have to make it at least 48 points for people to understand. It takes a while

[DavisH]

12 hours ago, faraday said:

  3 points for DUI.....?

 

Really?

Penalties in QLD Australia. Bit tougher than 3 points LOL

Edited March 25, 2018 by DavisH

[darksidedog]

A personal attack has been removed.

[DavisH]

8 hours ago, BEVUP said:

That'll most probably cost him $500 AUD & maybe 3 points

All points are gone if caught drink driving in Australia....the driver is disqualified from driving for several months.

http://www.alcosense.com.au/drink-driving-penalties-australia/

 

I take this to mean that the driver has to be retested to gain their licence back. My dad had to when he blew 0.06 back in the early 80's. Penalties are much tougher now Max speeding fines are over $2000 now. 

[Destiny1990]

Who keeps track of the points?

 

[Redline]

17 hours ago, YetAnother said:

so driving without a license , quite viable in some places, results in how many points lost ?

0+0=

[Redline]

2 hours ago, Destiny1990 said:

Who keeps track of the points?

 

Maybe the phone companies?

[ronrat]

We had a slaesman who lived next door to us in Melbourne.   He was forever racking up and 2 points penalties. He used to pay me or others the fine, a 100 bucks (2500  baht) plus 100 dollars a point. I had mates who had licences but never drove and in one case a fellow whose wife had died 2 years  and was heading to Thailand for 12 months, all took the fall. Probably 200 bucks a point now. The points were all expunged and started again. Only for red light cameras etc of course.

[cat handler]

17 hours ago, sfokevin said:

 

Only 3 points for Hit & Run too... 

 

And after 12 months you get a clean slate!...

 

So if one can keep it down to one hit & run and a couple DUIs in a year your good to go... 

 

Yep, that means they can do 4 Hit & Runs a year before they lose their license.

 

[inThailand]

For this system to work the police must get a DL or ID from the offender to get them in the system. Mai mee. Ok 500B and away you go.

[Jingjock]

20 hours ago, Darcula said:

Great idea. Where can I buy some points?

Any 7/11or Familymart

[jerojero]

Try REAL policing first. Points second.

[CLW]

And who cares? Where is the problem at driving with no licence? They need to impound the vehicle(s) immediately. That's how you can hurt them the most...

[timber]

As mentioned not severe enough, but would be a start.

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[jenny2017]

16 hours ago, DavisH said:

Penalties in QLD Australia. Bit tougher than 3 points LOL

  Here's an example how Germany is dealing with "traffic offenders"

 In spite of that, you can give credit to the Germans that only a sixth of the 43 million car drivers have got so-called Punkte in Flensburg (points in Flensburg).

It is recorded on the Flensburger Konto (account in Flensburg) if someone committed traffic violations like speeding. The bigger the hazard caused by the misbehavior, the more points will be recorded on the account. If a traffic offender has gathered 8 points, he or she must hand in the driving license permanently.

 

    Furthermore, the German law states that criminal offenses like drunk driving can already result in the revocation of the driver’s license – even if the offender has not gathered 8 points on the account in Flensburg yet. A so-called MPU is one of the steps to regain the driver’s permit. It is short for Medizinisch-Psychologische Untersuchung (medical-psychological examination) and requires a report which must attest the offender a more careful driving style in the future. It is often not that easy to receive one. As long as this report is not issued, the offender cannot drive a car in Germany with his or her previous driver’s license.

 

   If the Psychologist who examines the offender doesn't believe that he or she will never drive again under the influence of alcohol ( same for drugs), it's possible that such an MPU Test has to be done many times. Such a test has to be paid by the offender and it's around 1,000 Euros.

 

   Doing a red light will result in not driving for one to three months and points in Flensburg, depending on the situation. 

 

  There's a little problem with the point system in LOS. Most Thai cops would have 120 points in a week, who's replacing them? The little general's friends? 

 

Edited March 26, 2018 by jenny2017

[jenny2017]

2 hours ago, CLW said:

And who cares? Where is the problem at driving with no licence? They need to impound the vehicle(s) immediately. That's how you can hurt them the most...

You can hurt them most when you take their money away. Others also have cars, but no money for them.

[jenny2017]

11 hours ago, Redline said:

0+0=

12 + 10,000 = 0

[CLW]

You can hurt them most when you take their money away. Others also have cars, but no money for them.

Maybe both.
My point was if they don't have a vehicle they can't drive anymore.
Money or no license doesn't seem to bother the most.

[jenny2017]

Just now, CLW said:

Maybe both.
My point was if they don't have a vehicle they can't drive anymore.
Money or no license doesn't seem to bother the most.

If dangerous drivers would have to spend their weekends for a whole year at the emergency unit of a big government hospital, it might be a great start. 

[CLW]

  Here's an example how Germany is dealing with "traffic offenders"
 In spite of that, you can give credit to the Germans that only a sixth of the 43 million car drivers have got so-called Punkte in Flensburg (points in Flensburg).
It is recorded on the Flensburger Konto (account in Flensburg) if someone committed traffic violations like speeding. The bigger the hazard caused by the misbehavior, the more points will be recorded on the account. If a traffic offender has gathered 8 points, he or she must hand in the driving license permanently.
 
    Furthermore, the German law states that criminal offenses like drunk driving can already result in the revocation of the driver’s license – even if the offender has not gathered 8 points on the account in Flensburg yet. A so-called MPU is one of the steps to regain the driver’s permit. It is short for Medizinisch-Psychologische Untersuchung (medical-psychological examination) and requires a report which must attest the offender a more careful driving style in the future. It is often not that easy to receive one. As long as this report is not issued, the offender cannot drive a car in Germany with his or her previous driver’s license.
 
   If the Psychologist who examines the offender doesn't believe that he or she will never drive again under the influence of alcohol ( same for drugs), it's possible that such an MPU Test has to be done many times. Such a test has to be paid by the offender and it's around 1,000 Euros.
 
   Doing a red light will result in not driving for one to three months and points in Flensburg, depending on the situation. 
 
  There's a little problem with the point system in LOS. Most Thai cops would have 120 points in a week, who's replacing them? The little general's friends? 
 

I would like to add that once you get caught over the 0,05 % alcohol level, this will stay in your record for a long time (around 10 years, not exactly sure) and for the next offence you will have to do the psychological examination straightforward. Actually you can be in trouble with 0,03% already if the police officer notes insecure driving. They are always in team of 2 on patrol. If you are alone and have no witness or evidence you are busted...