Correct tones when transcribing "Saga"

[martin.agren]

My daughter's name is Saga in Swedish, which would be something like ซอกะ, but what will the tones be? I would like to write it with [mid][high].

[surfdog]

ซอ - would be like 'sor'  I believe...

There are a few 's' is in Thai there might be a more 'beautiful' one to use.  ซ I believe is supposed to be closer to a 'z' then other s letters.  more crisp

[Seligne2]

Easiest is สกะ, but both tones low

[digbeth]

wouldn't ซาก้า sounds more swedish with the Ga sound

[nrasmussen]

My daughter's name is Saga in Swedish, which would be something like ซอกะ, but what will the tones be? I would like to write it with [mid][high].

ซอก๊ะ will give you [mid][high].

[surfdog]

I can't think of any examples off hand of Thai words that can give the 'ah' sound within a single syllable, as suggested :ซอ -> sa

 

with a final consonant added, yes.. I can think of a few like บอล, สอน, บอก.. but one thing these have in common is that there is a 'w' sound kind of attached to these , e.g. 'sawn' 'bawl' 'bawk'

 

single syllable with 'อ' following a consonant.. I can think of many examples the sound is "or" such as หมอ, ห่อ, หม้อ, หล่อ, etc.

 

Anyways.. if there is some single consonant words where อ can be 'ah' I would like to know, very curious.

 

Or perhaps the swedish 'a' is like 'aor'  ?

 

 

[surfdog]

Isn't สาขา - mid and rising? as the า  rises if the final vowel.. so wouldn't you just change this to สากา and maybe throw in a garan to signal it is a foreign name

[tgeezer]

Almost imossible to know if one doesn't know the name or hear it said. I assume that you know that the vowel อ is closer to 'or' without the 'r' so if that is how 'a' is said in Swedish ซอ is the first syllable. ก๊ะ is 'ga' with a vowel half the length of the อ of the first syllable, ๊  makes it high tone.  

ซอก๊ะ 

[Oxx]

I've used Google Translate to find out how Saga is pronounced in Swedish.  It's not as I'd expected, and rather different from the English pronunciation of "saga".  ซอก๊ะ /sɔɔˑkáʔ/ is probably as close as you can get.

 

 

[surfdog]

ok I listened to the name in google translate, you are right, that definitely has the 'or' sound.

[martin.agren]

Thanks a lot people. That's right, in Swedish A can represent both ɔ and a. I've studied Thai before, but long time ago, so I've forgotten the rules of tone when writing, ซอก๊ะ seems correct, but what happens if the   ๊ is omitted?

[tgeezer]

Without ๊ you have a low tone.