Trump lawyer Cohen says will take 5th in Stormy Daniels case

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Trump lawyer Cohen says will take 5th in Stormy Daniels case

 

FILE PHOTO - U.S. President Donald Trump's personal lawyer Michael Cohen leaves federal court in the Manhattan borough of New York City, New York, U.S., April 16, 2018. REUTERS/Lucas Jackson

 

 

 

(Reuters) - President Donald Trump's lawyer Michael Cohen said on Wednesday he would assert his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination in connection with a lawsuit filed by adult-film star Stormy Daniels, who says she had an affair with Trump.

 

In a filing in Los Angeles federal court, Cohen said he decided to invoke his constitutional right after the FBI raided his home, office and hotel room two weeks ago.

 

The FBI search was partly a referral by the Office of Special Counsel, Robert Mueller, who is investigating alleged Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election and possible collusion with the Trump campaign. Russia denies meddling in the election and Trump has denied any collusion.

 

Last month, Daniels sued Trump and Cohen to end a non-disclosure agreement related to a $130,000 payment she received from Cohen before the 2016 election to keep quiet about her alleged one-night stand with Trump a decade earlier.

 

Cohen has asked for the Daniels' case to be put on hold for 90 days. At a hearing last week, U.S. District Judge James Otero said he needed more time to review the request for a stay, but he told Cohen's attorney "there's some gaping holes" in the request.

 

Lawyers for Trump and Cohen have said Daniels’ civil lawsuit overlaps the criminal probe of Cohen’s business affairs, and that letting her case proceed could both impair Cohen’s constitutional right against self-incrimination and make it harder for Trump to defend himself.

 

(Reporting by Eric Beech in Washington; Editing by Dan Grebler and Peter Cooney)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-04-26

[Aj Mick]

Something to hide for sure...... surely guilty of something

[Emster23]

"Only the best people".... take the 5th

[bristolboy]

‘If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth?’ Trump said — years after invoking it himself

“The mob takes the Fifth,” he said at an Iowa campaign rally in September. “If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/23/if-youre-innocent-why-are-you-taking-the-fifth-trump-said-years-after-invoking-it-himself/?utm_term=.84cb6a3579af

[mamypoko]

a fifth of Jack. do it while you still have time

[bristolboy]

I haven't seen the question addressed of how this affects the prospects of success for Stormy Daniels. It seems to me that if Cohen refuses to testify, it's pretty much assured that she will prevail in court. But that's just an uneducated guess.

[Berkshire]

11 hours ago, bristolboy said:

‘If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth?’ Trump said — years after invoking it himself

“The mob takes the Fifth,” he said at an Iowa campaign rally in September. “If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/23/if-youre-innocent-why-are-you-taking-the-fifth-trump-said-years-after-invoking-it-himself/?utm_term=.84cb6a3579af

This is one of the rare occasions where I would agree 100% with Trump.

[sammieuk1]

Going fifth in a storm may risk a tidal backwash.

[Trouble]

29 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

I haven't seen the question addressed of how this affects the prospects of success for Stormy Daniels. It seems to me that if Cohen refuses to testify, it's pretty much assured that she will prevail in court. But that's just an uneducated guess.

It has been said that if he takes the Fifth she will be unable to depose him and therefore unable to gather information needed.  I really don't understand her case. As far as I understand it, she took the $130,000, didn't keep quiet and wants to be released to give her story.  What's she going to reveal at this point? Like everything it's about how she can turn this into a money making deal. Cohen's problem with the feds is a different matter altogether.  

[bristolboy]

1 minute ago, Trouble said:

It has been said that if he takes the Fifth she will be unable to depose him and therefore unable to gather information needed.  I really don't understand her case. As far as I understand it, she took the $130,000, didn't keep quiet and wants to be released to give her story.  What's she going to reveal at this point? Like everything it's about how she can turn this into a money making deal. Cohen's problem with the feds is a different matter altogether.  

It's his right to refuse to be deposed. But that doesn't mean the case falls apart. It's his choice.

And as for the rest of the case. Donald Trump said that Cohen wasn't representing him. Cohen says that he wasn't paid by Trump. So Trump was not his client. A lawyer who acts on behalf of someone who hasn't authorized him to do so is probably looking to be disbarred. And any agreement signed to on behalf of a 3rd pary who denies he was being represented is invalid.

[boomerangutang]

Cohen is as brave as Trump.  In other words: as brave as a scaredy cat.

 

[boomerangutang]

6 minutes ago, Trouble said:

It has been said that if he takes the Fifth she will be unable to depose him and therefore unable to gather information needed.  I really don't understand her case. As far as I understand it, she took the $130,000, didn't keep quiet and wants to be released to give her story.  What's she going to reveal at this point? Like everything it's about how she can turn this into a money making deal. Cohen's problem with the feds is a different matter altogether.  

It's now bigger than that.  Cohen and Trump have called her a liar.  She's suing for defamation.  Even that's not the whole story.  This Stormy/Trump/Cohen imbroglio is mushrooming bigger than a Texas-sized shit-storm.  Nothing but bad and hurt can come out of it for Cohen and Trump.

 

Trump shielders in the WH are admitting: the Stormy storm is probably more dangerous for the prez than the Mueller investigation, ....and could cause Trump's resignation.

 

My theory:  the minute after Cohen declares he will go 'state's witness', .....Trump will draft his resignation letter.    Well, someone else will draft it, because Trump can't even write a paragraph without showing what an imbecile he is.  Trump can ask me.  I'll write his resignation letter for $5 and a photo of Trump in handcuffs, being frog-marched out of the WH by federal marshals.

 

I'm concerned that Pence will pardon Trump.  When Ford pardoned Nixon (a despicable act, btw), the pardon letter used a time frame, rather than mention any crimes.   Same will happen when Pence pardons Trump (and Trump Jr, Flynn, Manafort, Ivanka, Jared, Stone, Cohen and dozens of other law-breakers), .....it will specify a time-frame covering years.

 

excerpt from Ford's yellow-bellied pardon letter for Nixon.......

 

Now, THEREFORE, I, GERALD R. FORD, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974.

 

Note: that time period is from the day Nixon was sworn in, to the day he left office with his tail between his legs.    Same will happen when Pence pardons Trump.  Despicable, the whole Republican cabal - top to bottom.

[spidermike007]

Cohen is as guilty as Tiny Don. Both are as dirty as they come. Both have more skeletons in their closets, than a highlander Papuan cannibal. Both are going down, in my opinion. Don picked the wrong job, in which to be a liar and a cheat. In private business, he probably could have continued to get away with his filthy business practices, for the rest of his life. Not as president. Get used to saying President Pence.

 

Lock them both up! Lock them both up!

Edited April 26, 2018 by spidermike007

[carmine]

2 hours ago, Berkshire said:

This is one of the rare occasions where I would agree 100% with Trump.

Why, if he has nothing to hide he could be pivotal in clearing this mess up.  No it just looks like he's covering up for Trump for the fact he paid a porn star to shut her up.

 

This is exactly the scenario were you wouldn't take the 5th if you had nothing to hide. IMHO of course!

[lannarebirth]

7 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

. Don picked the wrong job, in which to be a liar and a cheat.

 

Not really. He picked the wrong job to be a liar and a cheat not having distributed several thousand patronage jobs first. Your people will take care of you if you take care of them. He doesn't have any people in DC.

[bristolboy]

6 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

 

Not really. He picked the wrong job to be a liar and a cheat not having distributed several thousand patronage jobs first. Your people will take care of you if you take care of them. He doesn't have any people in DC.

It's not like there's anybody in a position to pardon him.

[lannarebirth]

10 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

It's not like there's anybody in a position to pardon him.

Yeah, for federal stuff. I think Trump's much more worried about what could be dug up in New York, New Jersey and Florida.

[Thingamabob]

Nothing much in any of this. Yawn....

[bristolboy]

15 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

Yeah, for federal stuff. I think Trump's much more worried about what could be dug up in New York, New Jersey and Florida.

Good point.

[Berkshire]

42 minutes ago, carmine said:

Why, if he has nothing to hide he could be pivotal in clearing this mess up.  No it just looks like he's covering up for Trump for the fact he paid a porn star to shut her up.

 

This is exactly the scenario were you wouldn't take the 5th if you had nothing to hide. IMHO of course!

????  I was replying/agreeing to the post where Trump said "If you're innocent, why are you taking the fifth?"

[carmine]

22 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

????  I was replying/agreeing to the post where Trump said "If you're innocent, why are you taking the fifth?"

Oh sorry, i misread!!

[Hogs]

3 hours ago, Trouble said:

It has been said that if he takes the Fifth she will be unable to depose him and therefore unable to gather information needed.  I really don't understand her case. As far as I understand it, she took the $130,000, didn't keep quiet and wants to be released to give her story.  What's she going to reveal at this point? Like everything it's about how she can turn this into a money making deal. Cohen's problem with the feds is a different matter altogether.  

She is a money grabbing hooker 

What do you expect and SO WHAT if Trump banged her it is nothing to do with anyone but him and his wife and absolutely nothing to do with his Presidency since it was a DECADE before he even ran for President.

Scraping the barrel is what its called to try anything to bring down the TEFLON DON 

I will tell you one thing HIS SUPPORTERS dont give a hoot if he banged 100 hookers before his presidency and are very clear this is just another attack on his Presidency.

#

[bristolboy]

1 minute ago, Hogs said:

She is a money grabbing hooker 

What do you expect and SO WHAT if Trump banged her it is nothing to do with anyone but him and his wife and absolutely nothing to do with his Presidency since it was a DECADE before he even ran for President.

Scraping the barrel is what its called to try anything to bring down the TEFLON DON 

I will tell you one thing HIS SUPPORTERS dont give a hoot if he banged 100 hookers before his presidency and are very clear this is just another attack on his Presidency.

#

If his supporters don't give a hoot, then what does it matter if she tells all?

And what's to stop her? Trump said Cohen didn't represent him. So Cohen had no right to get an agreement signed on Trump's behalf.

[carmine]

3 minutes ago, Hogs said:

She is a money grabbing hooker 

What do you expect and SO WHAT if Trump banged her it is nothing to do with anyone but him and his wife and absolutely nothing to do with his Presidency since it was a DECADE before he even ran for President.

Scraping the barrel is what its called to try anything to bring down the TEFLON DON 

I will tell you one thing HIS SUPPORTERS dont give a hoot if he banged 100 hookers before his presidency and are very clear this is just another attack on his Presidency.

#

It makes him a liar and an adulterer with no right whatsoever to comment on anyone else behavior and hardly a role model to anyone with.  

 

Aside of that,  any bloke with an absurd syrup like that shouldn't be in a position of anything.

[carmine]

6 minutes ago, Hogs said:

She is a money grabbing hooker 

What do you expect and SO WHAT if Trump banged her it is nothing to do with anyone but him and his wife and absolutely nothing to do with his Presidency since it was a DECADE before he even ran for President.

Scraping the barrel is what its called to try anything to bring down the TEFLON DON 

I will tell you one thing HIS SUPPORTERS dont give a hoot if he banged 100 hookers before his presidency and are very clear this is just another attack on his Presidency.

#

The only thing that is sticking is that shit awful rug on his bonce!!

[carmine]

4 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

If his supporters don't give a hoot, then what does it matter if she tells all?

And what's to stop her? Trump said Cohen didn't represent him. So Cohen had no right to get an agreement signed on Trump's behalf.

Most of his supporters that i've listened to have the brainpower of a retarded buffalo.  Of corse they wouldn't care.  They are far too stupid to care.

[xylophone]

5 minutes ago, carmine said:

However, I do find him embarrassing vulgar, crass narcissistic and a thoroughly unlikeable bully,  born with a silver spoon in his mouth

I find that his constant lying and inability to know that what he is doing is wrong really grates, and represents someone with the brainpower and intelligence of a pickled squid.............how did this idiot become president?

[saminoz]

38 minutes ago, xylophone said:

I find that his constant lying and inability to know that what he is doing is wrong really grates, and represents someone with the brainpower and intelligence of a pickled squid.............how did this idiot become president?

Simple - literally. 

He was elected by the simpletons that now outnumber the educated in the USA!

Ask a certain poster above, I am sure he will concur (that means agree) as it seems that he is a big Trumpist (no, that's not an instrument!). 

Might the reason he has so few posts be because it takes him so long to write one?  Probaby another victim of America's failing education system.

Edited April 26, 2018 by saminoz

[watcharacters]

 

 

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It only takes 3 minutes and it'll make you feel better.

 

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/04/trumps-pee-tape-alibi-is-falling-apart

 

Edited April 26, 2018 by Scott

[boomerangutang]

4 hours ago, Hogs said:

KEEP DREAMING he is doing a fantastic ob for anyone that can push their hatred and contempt to one side and LOOK AT THE FACTS 

If you want to see the US denigrate to a 3rd rate country and laughing stock of the world, you'll love how Trump is shafting Americans and US institutions.  If you can't see it, then that's your problem.  You can feel a warm fuzzy feeling in knowing that there are about 24% of Americans who are as numb-brained and enmeshed in ridiculous conspiracy theories as you. ....including Ted 'Poop-in-his-pants-and-walk-around-like-that-for-a week' Nugent. ....oh, and Jeffrey Beauregard "I can't recall anything" Sessions.  You've got great company.

 

The only good thing about Trumpists is they're dragging down the Republican Party and showing Americans what they're really all about (depravity, lying, anti-American).   November can't come too soon.  ....and then January, when the slew of Democrats take their oath of office, and Republicans get booted out the back door to join yellow-bellied Ryan who (along with Republican sheeple) saddled Americans with trillion dollar deficits every year from 2019.