ubonr1971 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 I sent the pickup to toyota yesterday. He said one of the back break pads is 3mm and one of the front ones is 5mm. Is this safe? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 The rears I reckon are shoes..Sounds like they are half worn, still got life.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmaxdan Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Most pads start their life with about 12 mm of friction material, and most mechanics suggest replacing them when they get to 3 or 4 mm. You should replace your car's brake pads before the backing plate begins gouging out the brake rotors — a complication that can make the job even more expensive. Toyota should have given you a rough estimate as to how many more kilometers you can cover before you have them replaced. They did with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Every time I've done a checkup at Toyota they annotate your remaining pad thickness and also show what he minimum/safe thickness allowed is....it's annotated on the inside of the folder they put your receipt in, but will most likely be in Thai. The best I can figure out is it says you should replace at 2mm thickness....is the minimum allowed. However the Toyota manual/specs will probably say 1mm. Below is from my Toyota Fortuner manual....says 1mm is the minimum....expect your Toyota pickup is the same. Front Pads Rear Pads Specs Page 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Just for another example I googled up a Toyota Corolla brake pad thickness....same minimum spec of 1mm....see image below. In general brake pads they will have a wear line/groove or possibly metal tab that shows the recommend minimum thickness....usually it's a wear line/groove. Metal tab causes a metal sounds squeal when pressing the brake as it metal to metal contact versus brake shoe to metal contact. Brake shoes will probably just have the metal tab. But for me 1mm is too thin. 2mm tickness would be my minimum unless the manufacturer recommended a higher amount. On my 2009 Fortuner which has recently went over 200,000 Km, the rear brake shoes have only been replaced "once" at about the 190,000 Km point and they were still good...had 2.5mm thickness left on them. I only changed them also since it was cheap and I was having my front brake pads changed only for the "second" time...and the pads could have probably lasted another 25,000 Km before reaching the groove depth on them. Now days for those vehicles with brake pads on the front but shoes on the back, the rear brake shoes should last a long, long time....the front brake pads will wear out way before. For a Corolla 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 2 hours ago, ubonr1971 said: He said one of the back break pads is 3mm and one of the front ones is 5mm. Is this safe? I would of said " What about the other 3 in the back & front ". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 2 hours ago, ubonr1971 said: He said one of the back break pads is 3mm and one of the front ones is 5mm. Is this safe? I would of said " What about the other 3 in the back & front ". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktm jeff Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 6 hours ago, Kwasaki said: I would of said " What about the other 3 in the back & front ". Other 6. There are 8 pads , or 4 pads and 4 shoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotweiler Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Reality is - they are marginal. Be generous to yourself - spend the 300B and buy new ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 11 hours ago, Rotweiler said: Reality is - they are marginal. Be generous to yourself - spend the 300B and buy new ones. 300bht..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 15 hours ago, ktm jeff said: Other 6. There are 8 pads , or 4 pads and 4 shoes. That's what was meant OP said Toyota said 1 pad in front & 1 pad in back, so just a joke, what about the other 3 back & front. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAKAPALITA Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Kwasaki said: That's what was meant OP said Toyota said 1 pad in front & 1 pad in back, so just a joke, what about the other 3 back & front. Dont get in a Paddy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktm jeff Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 10 hours ago, Kwasaki said: That's what was meant OP said Toyota said 1 pad in front & 1 pad in back, so just a joke, what about the other 3 back & front. Ah , gotcha. I know you know about motors. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Amazing that on servicing the car at a Toyota franchise or dealership, such vital checks and replacements are not mandatory or at least pointed out to the customer ? ...Or have I missed something here .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Any good garage will point out the condition of pads and shoes, plus their job is to sell stuff.. In the OP's case his linings are about 50%, so got a few miles to go on them.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAKAPALITA Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 11 hours ago, observer90210 said: Amazing that on servicing the car at a Toyota franchise or dealership, such vital checks and replacements are not mandatory or at least pointed out to the customer ? ...Or have I missed something here .... Yeh, half the time they dont go to a real Toyo Service place, if they did theres nothing to post.Job Done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 11 hours ago, observer90210 said: Amazing that on servicing the car at a Toyota franchise or dealership, such vital checks and replacements are not mandatory or at least pointed out to the customer ? ...Or have I missed something here .... The only thing you missed I would say is which franchised dealerships are efficient and who are not, especially when there are many people who know nothing of auto mechanics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAKAPALITA Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kwasaki said: The only thing you missed I would say is which franchised dealerships are efficient and who are not, especially when there are many people who know nothing of auto mechanics. Not back to Ford again please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 (edited) 52 minutes ago, HAKAPALITA said: Not back to Ford again please. My point was really directed to all dealerships in hearing of them from friends and my own experience, when it comes to reporting condition of parts back to owners when necessary. Funny enough the Ford one where we are has a good reputation and I would say there are other Ford franchised dealerships the same in Thailand. I started using our 'Cockpit' franchise when I had Toyota truck/car because of there inefficient care I suppose in no doubt there is a percentage of Toyota dealerships in Thailand that are OK. Honda here are excellent but always a very long wait and expensive to boot, so I use our ' Cockpit' . Isuzu seem good here too so I'll stick with them while the truck is under warranty, they have no problem with me getting a basic oil change elsewhere if require I'll just keep receipt with service record book. Edited May 5, 2018 by Kwasaki 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAKAPALITA Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, Kwasaki said: My point was really directed to all dealerships in hearing of them from friends and my own experience, when it comes to reporting condition of parts back to owners when necessary. Funny enough the Ford one where we are has a good reputation and I would say there are other Ford franchised dealerships the same in Thailand. I started using our 'Cockpit' franchise when I had Toyota truck/car because of there inefficient care I suppose in no doubt there is a percentage of Toyota dealerships in Thailand that are OK. Honda here are excellent but always a very long wait and expensive to boot, so I use our ' Cockpit' . Isuzu seem good here too so I'll stick with them while the truck is under warranty, they have no problem with me getting a basic oil change elsewhere if require I'll just keep receipt with service record book. Fair assessment, we dont get that many here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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