Not able to collect stamp at the end of 30-day consideration period

[moke]

I have recently lodged an application at CW for Non-O extension of stay based on Thai spouse and currently am under the 30-day consideration period. I was requested to collect the extension stamp on 16 May 2018. However this date clashes with my unavoidable travel plans to chiangmai. My flight to Chiangmai is early in the morning so it is not possible for me to collect the extension stamp.

 

I called up the immigration at CW and they said it must only be collected on specified date and not before. When asked if I could collect it after, the person also said that I could but I would be at risk of being detained if I happened to get caught. They are also not willing to change the collection date because the 16 May is the "Length of Stay Until" date. 

 

If everything goes smoothly (not get caught and detained in Chiangmai) and I collect it after the 16 May (1 week after), am I considered to have overstayed and get fined? Will the non-O application be voided?

 

Thanks,

Moke

[BritTim]

If you are not arrested, you will be fine. As far as CW is concerned, your extension will already be effective. It will just not have been reflected by the stamp in your passport.

[4evermaat]

???  So you are already in Thailand with no plans to leave (only traveling domestically)?  Should not be a problem.  I don't think the domestic flights even check your entry stamp, as you are not passing through immigration.  They just check your passport when you check in.

 

If you were leaving thailand and re-entering, you would need a re-entry permit to keep any existing permission to stay valid. 

 

I would recommend having the full 1 year stamp in passport if the planned re-entry to thailand date is after the consideration period.  Although it is up to you if you want to pay the immediacy fee to get your extension stamp expedited.  

[moke]

Thanks for your insight.

 

I will only be travelling domestically during that period. As this is my first time travelling domestically by flight, I have asked around for the domestic check-in procedures and it does not seem to involve any immigration officers. I really wish that CW can allow people to collect the stamp within a range of days instead of a specific date.

 

Moke

[Jip99]

1 hour ago, 4evermaat said:

???  So you are already in Thailand with no plans to leave (only traveling domestically)?  Should not be a problem.  I don't think the domestic flights even check your entry stamp, as you are not passing through immigration.  They just check your passport when you check in.

 

If you were leaving thailand and re-entering, you would need a re-entry permit to keep any existing permission to stay valid. 

 

I would recommend having the full 1 year stamp in passport if the planned re-entry to thailand date is after the consideration period.  Although it is up to you if you want to pay the immediacy fee to get your extension stamp expedited.  

 

 

Passport not required, photo ID is acceptable for domestic flights.

[PoorSucker]

2 hours ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

Passport not required, photo ID is acceptable for domestic flights.

Thai driving licence is accepted, photo ID from foreign country, doubt it. 

[BritTim]

2 hours ago, Jip99 said:

Passport not required, photo ID is acceptable for domestic flights.

True, but not really relevant. Airline employees checking you in for a domestic flight have no interest in anything in your passport other than the data page. Also, strictly speaking, the law says you must carry your passport at all times (whether using it to check in for your flight or not). Many of us (including me) do not routinely carry our passports around with us, but the fact remains that you can be asked to show it (though Westerners are very rarely asked). When away from home, I do ensure I have either my actual passport, or a good color copy of the relevant pages with me. In the OP's case, there is a tiny chance (perhaps if his taxi is involved in an accident or something) that he could be asked for his passport. Even in that case, if he has his passport with him, he could most likely explain the situation and have no real problem in practice. If a natural worrier, it would be a legitimate reason to be very slightly concerned.

[Jip99]

18 minutes ago, BritTim said:

True, but not really relevant. Airline employees checking you in for a domestic flight have no interest in anything in your passport other than the data page. Also, strictly speaking, the law says you must carry your passport at all times (whether using it to check in for your flight or not). Many of us (including me) do not routinely carry our passports around with us, but the fact remains that you can be asked to show it (though Westerners are very rarely asked). When away from home, I do ensure I have either my actual passport, or a good color copy of the relevant pages with me. In the OP's case, there is a tiny chance (perhaps if his taxi is involved in an accident or something) that he could be asked for his passport. Even in that case, if he has his passport with him, he could most likely explain the situation and have no real problem in practice. If a natural worrier, it would be a legitimate reason to be very slightly concerned.

 

 

Remind me again which law in the Civil and Commercial Code states that you must carry your passport at all times ?

[elviajero]

You should be able pick up the extension on the 14th/15th. They will often say you can’t collect early, but they can/usually will issue it when you turn up as long as your case has been processed.

 

There is no problem picking up the extension a few days late, and you are highly unlikely going to be arrested or detained with the under consideration stamp in your passport that has only just expired. However, I would try to collect the extension on the 15th.

[Maestro]

2 hours ago, Jip99 said:

Remind me again which law in the Civil and Commercial Code states that you must carry your passport at all times ?

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There appears to be no such clause in the Civil and Commercial Code, but let us please not debate this in the present topic as this subject has been discussed at great length in the topic  Passport check on the road , to which a link with the name Requirement to carry passport at all times? has been included in the pinned topic Laws, regulations, Police Orders, etc . It is a long topic and I suggest that you start with the following two posts:

 

https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/719631-passport-check-on-the-road/?do=findComment&comment=7711071

 

https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/719631-passport-check-on-the-road/?do=findComment&comment=7714487

 

[ubonjoe]

9 hours ago, BritTim said:

If you are not arrested, you will be fine. As far as CW is concerned, your extension will already be effective. It will just not have been reflected by the stamp in your passport.

He would not be on an overstay. The underconsideration stamp allows him stay until his extension is approved. The report back date is just that it does not end the under consideration period.

[moke]

On 5/4/2018 at 9:40 PM, BritTim said:

If you are not arrested, you will be fine. As far as CW is concerned, your extension will already be effective. It will just not have been reflected by the stamp in your passport.

Ok so far I understand that the extension of stay will be effective on the 16th onward. However, since I will be collecting it late (1 week), is it any chance that CW will cancel/withdraw the 'extension of stay' grant? What should tell them if they happen to give me a call while I am away in Chiangmai?

[BritTim]

38 minutes ago, moke said:

Ok so far I understand that the extension of stay will be effective on the 16th onward. However, since I will be collecting it late (1 week), is it any chance that CW will cancel/withdraw the 'extension of stay' grant? What should tell them if they happen to give me a call while I am away in Chiangmai?

I do not think CW would revoke the extension because you were late (within reason) in going to the immigration office to get the stamp in your passport. There are various reasons why someone's permission to stay in Thailand can be revoked, but they are not really related to whether the stamp in your passport was inserted late.

 

If immigration call you while you are away in Chiangmai, tell them the truth. You are away from Bangkok, but intend going to CW immediately you return. There is no real reason for them to be upset about this as long as you are polite in talking with them.

[elviajero]

2 hours ago, moke said:

Ok so far I understand that the extension of stay will be effective on the 16th onward. However, since I will be collecting it late (1 week), is it any chance that CW will cancel/withdraw the 'extension of stay' grant? What should tell them if they happen to give me a call while I am away in Chiangmai?

Until you get the stay permit stamped in your passport there’s nothing to be cancelled. I’ve never heard of them denying an extension because someone was late collecting it, however, I guess it’s an unlikely possibility.

 

If you know you’re going to collect it a week late the sensible thing would be to call and tell them.