Is it an end of an era for the Western Expat?

[impishbynature]

Vietnam has been looking good for a while now.

[lucjoker]

4 hours ago, Hummin said:

The interesting question is, who do thai girls like most? 

 

Western from Northe Europe 

Western from South Europe

Western from USA

Russia and former USSR

 

The countries that is likely to grow in volume is

India

Pakistan

China

 

I know for sure, thai really disslike India, Pakistanis and Chineese, and do not want to have anything with them to do. Or is my information wrong? 

if a thai girl can fall "in love" with an old, fat, cheap - charly ,farang.......then she can "fall in love" with anybody . Can be a "zombie" from Mars.

The money is all what counts.

If the Zombie has more money than the Chinese ....the Zombie can have here .

The love ends ,when the money ends.

[soistalker]

34 minutes ago, MaeJoMTB said:

I was back in London 2016, almost everything was more expensive.

Bus or tube, more expensive than Taxi here.

Pint in a pub 200bht, here 80bht.

Meal in a pub 250bht, here 50bht.

Internet 2300bht/month, here 631bht/month.

 

Only daft people shop for groceries in the foreigner stores, at the market, 4 bell peppers 20bht, 1kg potatoes 20bht, 1kg tomatoes 10bht. 

Western restaurants run by western people, of course they're expensive because they're ripping you off. White folk want higher profits.

Never buy anything in Thailand from a business run by a foreigner unless you like being overcharged.

Cooking western food at home in Thailand, way cheaper than cooking any food at home in the UK.

 

This guy gets it.

I can understand drinking in a western-style pub to talk to people from your own country, even though I don't do it as I left home to not talk to people from back home. Maybe you want to watch your favourite sport on a big screen TV and have a few beers, like I do. But shopping in somewhere like central festival or ordering a crappy hamburger formed by someone in the kitchen without clean hands, and paying $12 for the privledge is just stupid. 

Source fruits and vegetables from the local markets. Source chicken and meat from Makro. Big C on Pattaya klang has excellent bread at good prices. Save $500 a month by being frugal. Drink most of your beer from the balcony of your condo with some sexy filly who isn't going to push you over the edge, literally or figuratively.

[soistalker]

2 minutes ago, lucjoker said:

if a thai girl can fall "in love" with an old, fat, cheap - charly ,farang.......then she can "fall in love" with anybody . Can be a "zombie" from Mars.

The money is all what counts.

If the Zombie has more money than the Chinese ....the Zombie can have here .

The love ends ,when the money ends.

A very honest look at the situation for guys in Thailand, but one that will not make any friends with the guys here who are married or dating women who are different than the normal Thai woman? .

[scorecard]

1 hour ago, soistalker said:

The Chinese tourists and the western expats are moving in two different universes here in Thailand. The only time the two will come into contact is when they block the footpath on beach road, causing you to push through them or when they bump into on the street, screaming hideously as they swarm in savage locust droves wherever they go.

 

"The Chinese tourists and the western expats are moving in two different universes here in Thailand. ..."

 

Excellent point.

 

 

 

[soistalker]

I just want to reiterate what old Soistalker always says: I would never consider a relationship with a Thai woman lasting more than 45 minutes.

[lucjoker]

1 hour ago, champers said:

I retired here 18 months ago, so for me it is the start of an era. No exorbitant gas, internet, leccy, phone, water and council tax bills, beer and cigs reasonably priced, hot weather and hot women. I couldn't get any accomodation in the UK for what I pay here.

i retired here 16 years ago , gas price was 8 bht/liter

a meal 50 to 100 bht .Girls without cell phones ....cold towel in your neck without asking.....Building a nice house with a pool on 1 rai for 2 million bht.......

 

I moved 4 months ago to Spain ,gas 38 bht /liter  a little more ,but food is cheaper here in Spain. Temperature is way better then the steaming hot ,rainy Th.

No dogs in the street , clean , respect .have a house in my name ..........and i'm close to my native country .

 

I dont need a poll to know what is best for me .

 

 

 

[55Jay]

Just now, soistalker said:

I just want to reiterate what old Soistalker always says: I would never consider a relationship with a Thai woman lasting more than 45 minutes.

45 whole minutes?  What a stud! 

[maximillian]

38 minutes ago, MaeJoMTB said:

"...there's nowhere in the world you can be free, but you can have a choice of oppression."

 

Will have to remember this one. Thanks.

[soistalker]

9 minutes ago, 55Jay said:

45 whole minutes?  What a stud! 

That includes cuddling.

[natway09]

First, you cannot blame Thailand for your home currencies devaluation. It is your home country that is struggling due to an aging population that are very well catered for by your Government &  that with high salaries find manufacturing almost impossible to compete except at the very high end Even Thailand is

starting to feel the pinch with textiles for example.

Living here & visiting for 4 weeks a year are two completely different animals but living here well 

without being stupid or extravagant  is still around 40% costs of the same lifestyle back home

Very much a matter of choice

[lucjoker]

7 minutes ago, soistalker said:

A very honest look at the situation for guys in Thailand, but one that will not make any friends with the guys here who are married or dating women who are different than the normal Thai woman? .

I dont want to make friends , i spoke of the normal Thai women .

If your money ends AND your lady still looks ok.......she will disapear or make your life a hell,

If she's old same as you and looks like you ,she will not find a replacement and will have to stay with you .....making your life a hell....lol.

But if you feel offended ,then you are the exception ,you must be so attractive and honest ,same same your lovely wife . You will life together forever , respected by her family ( who thank you for your goodness every time they see you),and even bankrupt she will support you and love you, even help you to jump from the highest floor you can reach ..............

[gbswales]

On 1/5/2018 at 2:44 AM, colinneil said:

 

4 hours ago, sanemax said:

Couldnt we have a discussion WITHOUT Thai girls being the main topic ?

Every thread seems to turn into a discussion about Thai girls and people boasting about their Thai Wife

I don't see how you can totally exclude this (or the gay scene) because a significant number of people are motivated by the possibility of finding a younger partner than they would likely meet at home. This isn't something that just applies to tourists.  The fact that many such relationships turn out to be hollow it is nonetheless still a reason why a significant number settle in Thailand - I am not saying ALL or even the Majority just a significant number

[car720]

6 hours ago, sanemax said:

Western Ex-pats will still come to Thailand, just not in the numbers from previous decades .

   Its rather like the hippies that flocked to Goa in the 60's , although some still live there and other old hippies still visit , they dont flock there like they did in previous generations .

  The Ex-pat flight to Thailands heyday was in the 90's , the hedonistic 90's where anything goes , there was no rule of law and anarchy reigned supreme and it was cheap .

   Fast forward to this day , where rules and laws are implemented , restrictions are in place and its now not as cheap anymore .

   There also doesnt seem to be the same inclination of Western retirees to live an hedonistic lifestyle in Thailand , with the onset of the internet , prostitution is easy to find in any Country , no need to travel half way around the World, just for sex .

    There will still be a trickle of Western retirees coming to live in Thailand , but nowhere near the numbers from two decades ago

Totally agree except I would have said that it all started in the 70's when GI Joe went home and told all his mates.  

[Tony125]

4 hours ago, Hummin said:

The interesting question is, who do thai girls like most? 

 

Western from Northe Europe 

Western from South Europe

Western from USA

Russia and former USSR

 

The countries that is likely to grow in volume is

India

Pakistan

China

 

I know for sure, thai really disslike India, Pakistanis and Chineese, and do not want to have anything with them to do. Or is my information wrong? 

They may not like them for a mate but they will sell them whatever they want.  I was in Jomtien buying a condo to rent out, 5--6 Chinese couples  came in to buy condo's as well. So I'm not going anywhere (I live in 3 bedroom home in  Chon Buri)  and I guess I will be selling or renting to the other Chinese that come over. Oh  a lot of them speak English. according to a survey there are more Chinese who speak English than the population of the US.

[sanemax]

10 minutes ago, gbswales said:

I don't see how you can totally exclude this (or the gay scene) because a significant number of people are motivated by the possibility of finding a younger partner than they would likely meet at home. This isn't something that just applies to tourists.  The fact that many such relationships turn out to be hollow it is nonetheless still a reason why a significant number settle in Thailand - I am not saying ALL or even the Majority just a significant number

I dont think that Thai females should be excluded from a discussion , but there are numerous other threads about Thai females , and it usually proceeds with everyone giving an account of how they met their Thai partner, whats she like , whats her family like and whether prostitutes make decent partners or not .

   I would be nice to keep away from that subject, for one thread

[richard_smith237]

5 hours ago, Hummin said:

The interesting question is, who do thai girls like most? 

 

Western from Northe Europe 

Western from South Europe

Western from USA

Russia and former USSR

 

The countries that is likely to grow in volume is

India

Pakistan

China

 

I know for sure, thai really disslike India, Pakistanis and Chineese, and do not want to have anything with them to do. Or is my information wrong? 

The characters offering this information from may not represent a true cross-section of the Thai population...

 

The view certainly seems extremely bias towards Westerners... In reality, unless working in the tourist industry or in areas of high tourist footfall Thai's seem rather indifferent.

Edited May 12, 2018 by richard_smith237

[55Jay]

2 minutes ago, car720 said:

Totally agree except I would have said that it all started in the 70's when GI Joe went home and told all his mates.  

Other than that period of time, overall, I think Muricans aren't here in great numbers. 

Western Europeans, NZ and OZ seem to dominate.  Mate of mine in the early 2000s was banging on about Thailand.  I had been here several times for short visits 80s and 90s, but it wasn't a place I ever thought I would want to live.  Ironically, he lives in Texas and I'm the one who wound up here.   

[CGW]

2 minutes ago, Tony125 said:

 Oh  a lot of them speak English. according to a survey there are more Chinese who speak English than the population of the US.

Another reason to ridicule "surveys" having lived and worked in China that is plain ridiculous! Pretty much like this "survey" depends how you define "expat" to me it means being hired to work as an expat and being paid accordingly with tax breaks etc.

 

 

[MaeJoMTB]

52 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Talking about sex with youngsters again ?

 

At my age anyone under 45 is a 'youngster'.

[colinneil]

29 minutes ago, gbswales said:

I don't see how you can totally exclude this (or the gay scene) because a significant number of people are motivated by the possibility of finding a younger partner than they would likely meet at home. This isn't something that just applies to tourists.  The fact that many such relationships turn out to be hollow it is nonetheless still a reason why a significant number settle in Thailand - I am not saying ALL or even the Majority just a significant number

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You seem to have lost the plot

[Ajarnbrian]

Doubt we`ll know if it`s the `end of an era for expats`, except in hindsight. More likely gradual changes in the origin of those coming to Thailand, more Chinese and rich from Asean countries. The desire to escape from some western countries and the affordability of doing so will be a factor. And Thailand may reach a time when ever growing numbers of foreigners it not seen as so good by Thais, hope that is a long way off. The relative attraction of other destinations may change, eg Brexit Britain and Spain as a choice. For me Thailand remains my number on choice of where to spend more time.

[Justfine]

The reality is most countries are worse now than 20 years ago. Thailand is not unique.

[MaeJoMTB]

Just now, Justfine said:

The reality is most countries are worse now than 20 years ago. Thailand is not unique.

It's not only the countries, I'm worse than I was 20 years ago as well!

[johncat1]

You don't have to eat Sticky rice and Somtam  ( I hate rice anyway )  I never eat Thai food and live on Western style food which is not expensive if you do all your own cooking.  Very rarely eat out although for a Thai this is often a cheaper option. Very few restaurants can cook Western foods without adding loads of chilli. Most of the time Thai or Western food  is luke warm to cold when it is served . If you complain and tell them it is not hot enough they will just add more chilli. Hot food ( temperature NOT spicy hot )  is not a Thai thing . My food is a lot cheaper than in the UK  and always served up piping hot (by myself ) 

[Russell17au]

54 minutes ago, 55Jay said:

45 whole minutes?  What a stud! 

no, it takes 44 whole minutes for his viagra to start working

[Hummin]

55 minutes ago, lucjoker said:

i retired here 16 years ago , gas price was 8 bht/liter

a meal 50 to 100 bht .Girls without cell phones ....cold towel in your neck without asking.....Building a nice house with a pool on 1 rai for 2 million bht.......

 

I moved 4 months ago to Spain ,gas 38 bht /liter  a little more ,but food is cheaper here in Spain. Temperature is way better then the steaming hot ,rainy Th.

No dogs in the street , clean , respect .have a house in my name ..........and i'm close to my native country .

 

I dont need a poll to know what is best for me .

 

 

 

Just wait for August, and if you think Thailand was hot  

[Justfine]

Had some Spanish wine tonight.

[stropper]

5 hours ago, Hummin said:

The interesting question is, who do thai girls like most? 

 

Western from Northe Europe 

Western from South Europe

Western from USA

Russia and former USSR

 

The countries that is likely to grow in volume is

India

Pakistan

China

 

I know for sure, thai really disslike India, Pakistanis and Chineese, and do not want to have anything with them to do. Or is my information wrong? 

cannot  beleive you left the <deleted> whinging poms out, get your facts right, they would have to be number one!

[stropper]

29 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Just wait for August, and if you think Thailand was hot  

thank god ,thats one gone!