Screens to kill off paper ID copies at govt offices

[rooster59]

Screens to kill off paper ID copies at govt offices

By JIRAPAN BOONNOON 
THE NATION

 

 

THAIS will soon no longer need to show photocopies of their ID cards or household registration certificates when dealing with government offices.

 

The Digital Government Agency (DGA) expects the administrative changes will take effect by the end of the year as people’s records are accessed online.

 

The DGA said it will submit to the Cabinet as early as next month a report on the resolutions of the Digital Government Development Steering Committee meeting that dealt with this issue.

 

The agency will also set up an entity known as the Government Data Exchange Centre (GDX) that will serve as a hub for e-government services next year. 

Airada Luangvilai, senior executive vice president of the DGA, said the submission to the Cabinet will recommend the scrapping of the long-established practice of people showing paper copies of their ID and household papers.

 

The change would see digital verification of people’s data applied when they go to any of the 300 government agencies and 60,000 government counters nationwide.

 

 Under the next stage of the programme, the government will enable Thai citizens to register businesses without having to hand over the paper copies of their ID and household registration. 

 

The DGA said exceptions may apply at some government agencies, such as the Lands Department and in the court system.

 

“After a survey of government agencies, we are pushing to ahead to provide e-services that do away with the need for paper copies of the documents. This will enable the one-stop provision of e-government services under a paperless system,” said Airada.

 

Regarding the plan for the GDX, she said the facility would serve as the backbone of the government’s information network.

 

 In this capacity, it would carry out the role of an e-government hub and enable a one-stop service linking all government agencies.

 

Thais dealing with government agencies and officials will be able to access the required information on touch-screen terminals.

 

To advance these plans, the agency has signed memorandum of understanding (MoU) with Metamedia Technology to develop an application known as CITIZENinfo. 

 

It will enable Thais to find about e-government services, along with displaying maps and other location details.

 

In a later stage, the app will make use of Longdo Map, which is an open-data that developers use to create new products and services. The initiative can help boost tourism as it will work with the features of the CITIZENinfo app.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/Economy/30346289

 

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2018-05-26

[BigBadGeordie]

32 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

The change would see digital verification of people’s data applied when they go to any of the 300 government agencies and 60,000 government counters nationwide.

What could possibly go wrong!

 

[BigBadGeordie]

[observer90210]

How about some nice small e-ID's for expats on O visas  in Thailand such as to avoid trudging one's passport all around ?

[JAG]

What's the betting (if it were permitted of course) that you will have to go to the little bamboo hut outside, pay the chap with the antique photocopier inside to photocopy the ID card (back and front), sign and date the copy, and then hand the cipy to an official who will scan it into his computer, and then view it on his screen?

[bluesofa]

37 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

The change would see digital verification of people’s data applied when they go to any of the 300 government agencies and 60,000 government counters nationwide.

This is the second report I've seen about. IIRC it's supposed to start in October this year?

However there's still no details as to what the public will need to do?

Take original ID card & house reg with them?

A photo of both those documents on a smartphone?

Nothing, and it might scan the person's face to confirm their ID?

Something else that someone has yet to dream up?

Only five months to go, it will probably be "announced" on the day of introduction.

 

[BigBadGeordie]

9 minutes ago, observer90210 said:

How about some nice small e-ID's for expats on O visas  in Thailand such as to avoid trudging one's passport all around ?

Already available at your local Amphur.

Search "Pink ID cards".

I have one and use it for hotels, government offices etc.

[hansnl]

1 hour ago, observer90210 said:

How about some nice small e-ID's for expats on O visas  in Thailand such as to avoid trudging one's passport all around ?

The so-called pink ID-card is available........

[Henricus]

1 hour ago, observer90210 said:

How about some nice small e-ID's for expats on O visas  in Thailand such as to avoid trudging one's passport all around ?

Drivers Licence Maybe

[DrTuner]

Farangs, however, will continue to receive the copies of passports and bank details of the other immigration office victims as usual.

[Shiver]

There goes my unique idea to set up a photocopy empire next to every government agency in the land.

 

Next they'll steal my plans to 3D print orange buckets and soap holder outside every Wat.

 

As for the mobile helmet sales truck to accompany police at road checks for a kickback... 

[connda]

That's ok.  To compensate for the government entering the 21st Century digital age while dealing with Thai citizens, Thai Immigration will continue to use paper forms well into the 22nd Century.
No doubt in another 10 years I'll be filling out the same forms that I've submitted for the last two decades.  Gotta keep killing trees and wasting paper. 

[Number 6]

The fact that one even needs to show a house book is ridiculous. Half the nation does not live at the addresses.

 

The entire nation is getting set up for data theft. They can't even get the online 90 day reporting system sorted after how many years?

 

They don't have to show their ID cards which by law they need to have on their person anyway. So genius.

 

[HiSoLowSoNoSo]

7 minutes ago, Number 6 said:

The fact that one even needs to show a house book is ridiculous

Stone age here!

[cyberfarang]

2 hours ago, DrTuner said:

Farangs, however, will continue to receive the copies of passports and bank details of the other immigration office victims as usual.

No they won`t as immigration will be able to connect into online databases to check that the paperwork matches up to their online records. Now for the first time, International government and national government departments are starting to communicate. It`s going to become much more difficult to stay in Thailand for those that don`t meet the requirements or paperwork that is not in order. It will become a much more paperless system.

Edited May 26, 2018 by cyberfarang

[over2you]

1 hour ago, connda said:

That's ok.  To compensate for the government entering the 21st Century digital age while dealing with Thai citizens, Thai Immigration will continue to use paper forms well into the 22nd Century.
No doubt in another 10 years I'll be filling out the same forms that I've submitted for the last two decades.  Gotta keep killing trees and wasting paper. 

"Boss. Can I destroy all these ages old out of date photo copies.?"

"Yes, but make a photo copy of them first. Just in case."

Red Tape rules. OK? 

[bluesofa]

1 hour ago, over2you said:

"Boss. Can I destroy all these ages old out of date photo copies.?"

"Yes, but make a photo copy of them first. Just in case."

Red Tape rules. OK? 

Mine's yellow

 

 

[gandalf12]

28 minutes ago, Number 6 said:

The fact that one even needs to show a house book is ridiculous. Half the nation does not live at the addresses.

 

The entire nation is getting set up for data theft. They can't even get the online 90 day reporting system sorted after how many years?

 

They don't have to show their ID cards which by law they need to have on their person anyway. So genius.

 

Appears to be the national form of a Census

[Jan Van Caeyzeele]

Thailand is a developing country. Disparaging it is stupid and disrespectful.

[cyberfarang]

32 minutes ago, over2you said:

"Boss. Can I destroy all these ages old out of date photo copies.?"

"Yes, but make a photo copy of them first. Just in case."

Red Tape rules. OK? 

It`s going to be worse than that, because not far off in the future all government agencies will have our details on their online databases. And just like the social media and Google will be selling our data to other agencies and companies. For a fee everybody or companies will be given access to those records. Everything we do will be tagged and logged in databases somewhere. This is fact. Welcome to the technical age of the 21st century.

[DrTuner]

53 minutes ago, cyberfarang said:

No they won`t as immigration will be able to connect into online databases to check that the paperwork matches up to their online records. Now for the first time, International government and national government departments are starting to communicate. It`s going to become much more difficult to stay in Thailand for those that don`t meet the requirements or paperwork that is not in order. It will become a much more paperless system.

I hold this as proof that time travel is possible. At least 500 years from the future, Sir?

[MikeN]

1 hour ago, Number 6 said:

 

 

They don't have to show their ID cards which by law they need to have on their person anyway. So genius.

 

Read it again.....they will not have to show PAPER COPIES. 

[helloagain]

5 hours ago, observer90210 said:

How about some nice small e-ID's for expats on O visas  in Thailand such as to avoid trudging one's passport all around ?

This was bantered about on thai visa over 10 years ago 55555

[ThaiWai]

Wow..racing into the 1990's...

[wvavin]

The people of this country simply like to follow trend.

[Aupee]

And if you believe it will make one iota of a change in what we go through to do our yearly renewal .welcome to lala land after just 10 years I know there will be no change for at lest the rest of my life, we all know that any change will be down to the local officer's  view and the flattened state of his wallet,of before the real facts of are considered which are not to be confused with the governments  intentions

[timber]

When I use the Pink ID card they have accepted it, but haven't tried it on everything.

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, Aupee said:

And if you believe it will make one iota of a change in what we go through to do our yearly renewal .welcome to lala land after just 10 years I know there will be no change for at lest the rest of my life, we all know that any change will be down to the local officer's  view and the flattened state of his wallet,of before the real facts of are considered which are not to be confused with the governments  intentions

Whining because it's still the same as it was 10 years go... and no doubt whining when it changes from what it was 10 years ago.

 

Is that what's called an equal-opportunity whine?

[55Jay]

It's all good, I suppose.  Thais first, no problem.  Hopefully progress will roll downhill to us long-sah-tay folks, eventually. 

 

Cynically though, my Immi office had a new electronic queuing system installed.  It was broken inside of 6 months, never worked again.  We went back to laminated number cards held in a bamboo cup by the front door.

[55Jay]

5 hours ago, Jan Van Caeyzeele said:

Thailand is a developing country. Disparaging it is stupid and disrespectful.

Welcome to ThaiVisa Forum, Jan.