Junta rejects Amnesty appeal for protesters

[snoop1130]

Junta rejects Amnesty appeal for protesters

By The Nation

 

 

The junta on Thursday rejected an Amnesty International call to ending legal action against pro-election protesters, saying that sparing lawbreakers was beyond its power.

 

Maj-Gen Piyapong Klinphan, the spokesman for the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO), said the authorities were doing their job in line with the law and the scope of their responsibilities.

 

“We are not violating anyone’s rights. There is no unfair treatment or persecution,” he told reporters at the 11th Military Circle, of which he is the commander.

 

The London-based Amnesty International is campaigning for people around the world to write to the Thai government and call for an end to legal action against 62 people in connection with their rallies demanding an election.

 

The NGO’s campaign continues until July 5, according to its website.

 

The protesters held their rallies on many occasions over the past months with the latest one at Thammasat University on May 22, the fourth anniversary of the 2014 military coup. They demanded that an election be held by November, and not next February, as has been promised by the junta.

 

They are charged with violating a junta ban on political gatherings of five or more people, provoking public commotion and breaking the law on public assembly. The maximum punishment is seven years in jail. 

 

Piyapong said in response to AI’s campaign, the authorities would “explain the truth to them”. 

 

“The NCPO can’t permit requests that are against the law,” he said. “We cannot do anything that goes beyond the scope of the law or our responsibility.”

 

NCPO legal officials on Thursday filed a complaint against 41 pro-election protesters at the May 22 rally. 

 

Earlier, 21 activists, many of them protest leaders, had been charged with breaking the ban and provoking public commotion.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30346690

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2018-5-31

[rkidlad]

16 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

Saying that sparing lawbreakers was beyond its power.

Article 44. As long as you have that, there are no real laws (not that there is anyway) but just the whim of a man who clearly hasn't heard the word 'no' much in his life. 

 

The road to democracy is sacrifice and compromise. Not this. 

[Odysseus123]

I thought that they had gone a little quiet-mad monks and all that.

 

But he's back with a bang.

[Dave67]

“We are not violating anyone’s rights. There is no unfair treatment or persecution,”

[kareona]

We are the law! Obey! Or else......

[yellowboat]

34 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

Piyapong said in response to AI’s campaign, the authorities would “explain the truth to them”. 

What truth is there than doing that which is wrong and evil ?  Edward Snowden and Martin Luther King both spoke about what governments and what they do under the guise of legal.  Given the government has no checks and balances, the law is whatever the junta says it is.  And they should be ridiculed for their hubris and stupidity from now until the junta is gone.   It is so mind numbing a serious junta supporter has not been seen on this forum for months.  They are as rare as a black panther. 

[Eligius]

That's it - I've only read the first paragraph of this article and it is enough for me. 'The junta is powerless ... only following the law'. 

 

Pathetic, sickening, ridiculous, intelligence insulting - MORONS.

 

But WE are NOT! Any one of us on Thaivisa (on these threads) could intellectually tear these cretins into shreds. They could not hold a debate with any one of us (without their guns pointed at our heads) for more than 60 seconds.

 

My God. Thailand - get off your knees and kick OUT these mockers of your life and your nation!

[kannot]

One day theyll regret this, most likely when they are up against the wall with the blindfold on being asked for their last request

[Eligius]

1 minute ago, kannot said:

One day theyll regret this, most likely when they are up against the wall with the blindfold on being asked for their last request

The sad, sad thing is that never - or as good as never - are these coupsters held to account. None of them imprisoned for life - still less executed for high treason.

 

I don't see that changing anytime soon. 

[mark131v]

22 minutes ago, Eligius said:

The sad, sad thing is that never - or as good as never - are these coupsters held to account. None of them imprisoned for life - still less executed for high treason.

 

I don't see that changing anytime soon. 

Unfortunately I think you are right, just wish Thailand would grow a pair and put an end to this horrible cycle of injustice that the amart keep subjecting the country to but the kow-towing mind set the poor are taught from birth makes that highly unlikely....

[Cadbury]

Sick people are running this country! Those in power and their big business mates have deserted to real Thai people. Buddhism can't even help them because the monks are as crooked as the rest of junta.

[greeneking]

'sparing lawbreakers was beyond its power' 555

 

sparing lawbreakers IS its power!

At least Andy Hall has had a good day.  Not enough Thai heroes.

Easy for us to say, maybe.

[JAG]

1 hour ago, Eligius said:

The sad, sad thing is that never - or as good as never - are these coupsters held to account. None of them imprisoned for life - still less executed for high treason.

 

I don't see that changing anytime soon. 

Depends how they leave power. If it's a scramble for the airport not all will get away...

[baboon]

2 hours ago, yellowboat said:

Given the government has no checks and balances, the law is whatever the junta says it is.

As if that isn't bad enough, now add to the end of your sentence 'at any given moment'.

[webfact]

Junta rejects Amnesty plea to end action against protesters

By THE NATION

 

 

THE JUNTA yesterday rejected an Amnesty International call for the government to end legal action against pro-election protesters, saying that sparing lawbreakers was beyond its power.
 

Maj-General Piyapong Klinphan, the spokesman for the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO), said the authorities were doing their jobs in line with the law and the scope of their responsibilities.

 

“We are not violating anyone’s rights. There is no unfair treatment or persecution,” he told reporters at the 11th Military Circle, of which he is the commander.

 

The London-based Amnesty International is campaigning for people around the world to write to the Thai government and call for an end to legal action against 62 people in connection with their rallies demanding an election.

 

The NGO’s campaign continues until July 5, according to its website.

 

The protesters held their rallies on many occasions over recent months with the latest one at Thammasat University on May 22, the fourth anniversary of the 2014 military coup. They demanded that an election be held by November, and not next February, as has been promised by the junta.

 

They are charged with violating a junta ban on political gatherings of five or more people, provoking public commotion and breaking the law on public assembly. The maximum punishment is seven years in jail. 

 

Piyapong said in response to AI’s campaign, the authorities would “explain the truth to them”. 

 

“The NCPO can’t permit requests that are against the law,” he said. “We cannot do anything that goes beyond the scope of the law or our responsibility.”

 

NCPO legal officials yesterday filed a complaint against 41 pro-election protesters at the May 22 rally. 

 

Earlier, 21 activists, many of them protest leaders, had been charged with breaking the ban on political gatherings and provoking public commotion.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30346735

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2018-06-01

[Odysseus123]

So..any brave Thai that sticks his/her head up above the level of the parapet can expect a full on judicial artillery barrage in return from the NCPO..

 

It is a bizarre political entity that describes this process as 'Law' and howls in moral rectitude when such 'Laws' are broken.

Edited May 31, 2018 by Odysseus123

[YetAnother]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

“We are not violating anyone’s rights. There is no unfair treatment or persecution,” he told reporters at the 11th Military Circle, of which he is the commander.

scary if he believes that; most likely he does as he believes they have no rights, same as conscripts in the military; and fairness is whatever he says it is

[cornishcarlos]

But whilst U.K and Europe are entertaining Prayut on official visits, there will be no change in their attitude.

Ban travel to Europe by any member of the Junta, ban seafood imports while you'e at it and even those dodgy Thai airlines.

Hit the greedy people hiding behind the Junta.

Then and only then, might the Thai people be spared more of this ridiculous charade !!

[Wilsonandson]

If they'd let them off with a warning it would be news for 1 day. But prosecuting them has now made it into international news. Great job junta! That's gunner help you lots on polling day next year.

Dumb and dumber.

[JAG]

1 hour ago, Wilsonandson said:

If they'd let them off with a warning it would be news for 1 day. But prosecuting them has now made it into international news. Great job junta! That's gunner help you lots on polling day next year.

Dumb and dumber.

If (and it's quite a big if) there is a polling day next year, then the result - like the law - will be what the Generals say it is.

[klauskunkel]

15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The junta on Thursday rejected an Amnesty International call to ending legal action against pro-election protesters, saying that sparing lawbreakers was beyond its power.

unless of course the lawbreaker is part of the junta, then "sparing" is automatic.

[Lupatria]

16 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Maj-Gen Piyapong Klinphan, the spokesman for the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO), said the authorities were doing their job in line with the law and the scope of their responsibilities.

I'm sure Prawit would be first to confirm the statement.

[Media1]

KEEP. digging your hole..Wont be long we did you of government house

[Lupatria]

5 hours ago, Odysseus123 said:

So..any brave Thai that sticks his/her head up above the level of the parapet can expect a full on judicial artillery barrage in return from the NCPO..

 

It is a bizarre political entity that describes this process as 'Law' and howls in moral rectitude when such 'Laws' are broken.

Military justice is to justice what military music is to music.

(Groucho Marx)

[gandalf12]

6 hours ago, cornishcarlos said:

But whilst U.K and Europe are entertaining Prayut on official visits, there will be no change in their attitude.

Ban travel to Europe by any member of the Junta, ban seafood imports while you'e at it and even those dodgy Thai airlines.

Hit the greedy people hiding behind the Junta.

Then and only then, might the Thai people be spared more of this ridiculous charade !!

The European countries should refuse permission to enter the country and if they do gain permission to enter refuse to meet with them

[Lucky mike]

Talk Buddha, not do Buddha !

[jayboy]

9 hours ago, cornishcarlos said:

But whilst U.K and Europe are entertaining Prayut on official visits, there will be no change in their attitude.

Ban travel to Europe by any member of the Junta, ban seafood imports while you'e at it and even those dodgy Thai airlines.

Hit the greedy people hiding behind the Junta.

Then and only then, might the Thai people be spared more of this ridiculous charade !!

I'm sure your heart's in the right place but we live in the real world.By international standards Thailand is not a very repressive regime though I think it's the world's only military dictatorship at the moment.But "dictatorship" isn't really the right word - not in the same league as a host of countries Europe has to deal with.In a regional context it's hard to argue that Thailand is more repressive than most of its neigbours.Thailand isn't our enemy rather the opposite.The agonizing aspect for those of us who love Thailand is that the country should be doing so much better.We may not like the present regime but it's at least on the road to democracy in the two steps backward one step forward Thai manner.There are no execution squads, no torture chambers - life goes on, the economy is doing quite well and though dissent is discouraged the Thais are lively social media enthusiasts.I don't think foreign tantrums and boycotts work very well.I don't think behaviour can generally be changed by foreigners' disapproval.When and if the (imo very necessary) change comes it will be the Thai people that bring it about not lecturing foreigners.Up to now it must be said that despite the current rumblings, resentment/anger is being contained at surprisingly small levels.

[Eligius]

7 minutes ago, jayboy said:

When and if the (imo very necessary) change comes it will be the Thai people that bring it about not lecturing foreigners.Up to now it must be said that despite the current rumblings, resentment/anger is being contained at surprisingly small levels.

'Anger being contained at surprisingly small levels'.

 

And therein lies the heart of the problem - and why nothing will change and why the junta is set to continue (in one form or another). Sometimes (as even Christ showed - taking a whip to the money changers in the temple) anger is valid and righteous!

 

Edited June 1, 2018 by Eligius

[stephen tracy]

4 hours ago, jayboy said:

I'm sure your heart's in the right place but we live in the real world.By international standards Thailand is not a very repressive regime though I think it's the world's only military dictatorship at the moment.But "dictatorship" isn't really the right word - not in the same league as a host of countries Europe has to deal with.In a regional context it's hard to argue that Thailand is more repressive than most of its neigbours.Thailand isn't our enemy rather the opposite.The agonizing aspect for those of us who love Thailand is that the country should be doing so much better.We may not like the present regime but it's at least on the road to democracy in the two steps backward one step forward Thai manner.There are no execution squads, no torture chambers - life goes on, the economy is doing quite well and though dissent is discouraged the Thais are lively social media enthusiasts.I don't think foreign tantrums and boycotts work very well.I don't think behaviour can generally be changed by foreigners' disapproval.When and if the (imo very necessary) change comes it will be the Thai people that bring it about not lecturing foreigners.Up to now it must be said that despite the current rumblings, resentment/anger is being contained at surprisingly small levels.

"the present regime but it's at least on the road to democracy", sorry, come again.