Popular Post Brunolem Posted June 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 1, 2018 In a previous thread, one thing leading to another, the issue of internet privacy was raised, and this issue is well worth having its own thread. Many users have little or no idea of what is going on behind the internet curtain. We are not talking about Thaivisa here, but about the companies that actually run your devices as if they belonged to them! Thanks to someone who is rather wellknown in internet circles (check links below), and who went through the trouble of doing some research, we now have a good idea of the extent of the damage done to our privacy. Not only these companies keep a very detailed record of absolutely everything that ever went in or out of our devices (browsing history, photos taken, received and sent, emails, what you watch on Youtube, what you download, and everything else), but they also keep a record of our every move (where you were, when, how long...). Many users tend to dismiss such information, saying something like "I don't care, I have nothing to hide". This is a wrong reaction for many reasons. First, what is normal or legal for someone can be interpreted differently by someone else. Just ask the guy who had the police knocking at his door because he had browsed fertilizer websites! On top that, it is easily possible to build a completely wrong picture of someone by cherrypicking into one's data. In other words, with some effort, everyone can be turned into a criminal. And this is actually done, albeit not on a large scale...for now... For the time being, it seems there is little we can do about it, notably because of the monopoly a handful of companies have on running the internet...in other words, there is no alternative! Yet, it may be important to remain aware of this situation, and see how it evolves...most probably not for the better... https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/worried-about-what-facebook-knows-about-you-check-out-google-n860781 https://mobile.twitter.com/iamdylancurran/status/977559925680467968?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nbcnews.com%2Ftech%2Fsocial-media%2Fworried-about-what-facebook-knows-about-you-check-out-google-n860781 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, Brunolem said: Not only these companies keep a very detailed record of absolutely everything that ever went in or out of our devices (browsing history, photos taken, received and sent, emails, what you watch on Youtube, what you download, and everything else), but they also keep a record of our every move (where you were, when, how long...). Which company does that ? Why would anyone want to know what videos I have been watching on youtube ? Which company is constantly monitoring me and why are they doing it ? Or are these just the concerns of paranoid old hippies who smoked too much weed in their youth ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JaiMaai Posted June 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 1, 2018 10 minutes ago, sanemax said: Which company does that ? Why would anyone want to know what videos I have been watching on youtube ? Which company is constantly monitoring me and why are they doing it ? Or are these just the concerns of paranoid old hippies who smoked too much weed in their youth ? Why not use a well-known search engine and find out? 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmaxdan Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, Brunolem said: In other words, with some effort, everyone can be turned into a criminal. Right then, I better start enjoying myself before I get arrested and sent to work hard labour in the Siberian salt mines because my grandson is watching Tom & Jerry cartoons on YouTube. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, JaiMaai said: Why not use a well-known search engine and find out? I am to scared to use Google . If I do a websearch for "Pizza" , they will send me adverts for Pizzas I've read 1984 and I know the signs to look out for 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 57 minutes ago, sanemax said: Which company does that ? Why would anyone want to know what videos I have been watching on youtube ? Which company is constantly monitoring me and why are they doing it ? Or are these just the concerns of paranoid old hippies who smoked too much weed in their youth ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFTWM7HV2UI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, impulse said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFTWM7HV2UI What is so wrong with adverts ? I would much rather they send me adverts which I may need , rather than bombarding me with random adverts which I have no use for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Absolutely. The companies that store everything we write do not have our best interests at heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunBENQ Posted June 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 1, 2018 (edited) Quote Should you be careful about what you write in TV Forum? Yes. Should you be careful about what you write if you live in Thailand? Yes. Should you be careful about what you like/share/view/comment if you live in Thailand? Yes. And this is not about annoying adtracking, being spammed etc. Child play. TV moderators will try to safe you (and the forum) from the worst by removing potentially dangerous content. You don't live in a country with unlimited freedom of speech. I think this does not need further details? Sure there are methods to hide from the worst but that's for the tech savvy. It's up to you whether you feel the need to supply your full real name, address, phone number for each whatever trivial website. Use it only where absolutely necessary. Google/Youtube, Facebook have nothing coming close to my real name. You can still use a Google account to your advantage. I use different account names on PC and mobile both with made up data. My major mistake: I allowed them to access exact location by the phone GPS for one of the accounts. Facebook is somewhat useless without data striptease. I have a made up account just to see what my two only "friends" publish and read public content. Otherwise I don't publish there. Without real data "you" is an IP address at a certain time logged by your ISP. In Thailand access to the logs is easy for the "government". Every Thai mobile phone number is registered to a real name/ID. So think on your own what the consequence is. Edited June 1, 2018 by KhunBENQ 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 minute ago, KhunBENQ said: Facebook is somewhat useless without data striptease. I have a made up account just to see what my two only "friends" publish and read public content. Otherwise I don't publish there. Isn't it actually a criminal offense to create a fake FaceBook account? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said: Yes. Should you be careful about what you write if you live in Thailand? Yes. Should you be careful about what you like/share/view/comment if you live in Thailand? Yes. Its quite easy to avoid any issues in Thailand . Just dont mention the Monarchy and avoid slandering Thais 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, watcharacters said: Isn't it actually a criminal offense to create a fake FaceBook account? A violation of FBs terms of use being a criminal offense? Punished by deletion of account which is otherwise difficult Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximillian Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Dmaxdan said: Right then, I better start enjoying myself before I get arrested and sent to work hard labour in the Siberian salt mines because my grandson is watching Tom & Jerry cartoons on YouTube. You will rather be sent to work hard labour in a Michigan salt mine, bc your son is watching RT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said: A violation of FBs terms of use being a criminal offense? Punished by deletion of account which is otherwise difficult I think technically under the terms of service agreement it goes a little further than that. I'm just going by memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunolem Posted June 1, 2018 Author Share Posted June 1, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, sanemax said: Which company does that ? Why would anyone want to know what videos I have been watching on youtube ? Which company is constantly monitoring me and why are they doing it ? Or are these just the concerns of paranoid old hippies who smoked too much weed in their youth ? Hold your horses and click on the links provided in my post, where the concerned companies are named! Edited June 1, 2018 by Brunolem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunolem Posted June 1, 2018 Author Share Posted June 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Dmaxdan said: Right then, I better start enjoying myself before I get arrested and sent to work hard labour in the Siberian salt mines because my grandson is watching Tom & Jerry cartoons on YouTube. It is thanks to model citizens such as yourself that a police state can develop and thrive, as it is currently doing in many countries... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunolem Posted June 1, 2018 Author Share Posted June 1, 2018 2 hours ago, JaiMaai said: Why not use a well-known search engine and find out? Or why not simply click on the links provided in my post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Brunolem said: Hold your horses and read the links provided in my post, where the names of the companies are given! I cannot be bothered to read the links . I m not concerned about "being watched" all the time . And I don care if a comapny is keeping track of me . I am beggining to sound paranoid : I do not believe that there is anyone watching me and I dont believe that there is anyone or thing, watching my every move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunolem Posted June 1, 2018 Author Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 hour ago, sanemax said: What is so wrong with adverts ? I would much rather they send me adverts which I may need , rather than bombarding me with random adverts which I have no use for We are not talking about ads, but about your every move being recorded! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poanoi Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 i'm more concerned about thai visa have SO many threesome porn advertisement ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Brunolem said: We are not talking about ads, but about your every move being recorded! Once again , who by ? Who is recording my every move ? Why would anyone want to watch my every move ? What happens to all the recordings made of me ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 But what about those saying a VPN unchains your freedom of speech shakles not only in Thailand, but perhaps also in the USA and a few other western big-brothered nations !?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunolem Posted June 1, 2018 Author Share Posted June 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, sanemax said: I cannot be bothered to read the links . I m not concerned about "being watched" all the time . And I don care if a comapny is keeping track of me . I am beggining to sound paranoid : I do not believe that there is anyone watching me and I dont believe that there is anyone or thing, watching my every move If you cannot read, then your opinion is not shaped by knowledge, but only relies on belief, as you say it yourself. I personally prefer to know than to believe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunolem Posted June 1, 2018 Author Share Posted June 1, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, sanemax said: Once again , who by ? Who is recording my every move ? Why would anyone want to watch my every move ? What happens to all the recordings made of me ? Sorry that you can't click on a link. The name of one company interested by your every move starts with a G and ends with an E.... Edited June 1, 2018 by Brunolem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 100% correct. Easy way to test it is to speak of a brand such as a car in the vicinity of your phone and soon enough google or other well known websites will be showing you said brands adverts. If you want a browsing experience which is not collecting info. Get the TOR browser. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Brunolem said: Sorry that you can't click on a link. The name of one company interested by your every move starts with a G and ends with an E.... Google ? OK, what will Google do with all the info they have on me ? 7 Billion people in the World , why would Google be watching me ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rc2702 said: 100% correct. Easy way to test it is to speak of a brand such as a car in the vicinity of your phone and soon enough google or other well known websites will be showing you said brands adverts. Thats helpful though , if you are wanting to buy a car , then its helpful to get shown cars for sale , by way of adverts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunolem Posted June 1, 2018 Author Share Posted June 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, sanemax said: Google ? OK, what will Google do with all the info they have on me ? 7 Billion people in the World , why would Google be watching me ? That you would have to ask them! The link that you can't bother to open is about someone who requested his Google account, as kept by Google, then went through it, page after page. It's all there, including screenshots to prove that what he says is real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunolem Posted June 1, 2018 Author Share Posted June 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, sanemax said: Thats helpful though , if you are wanting to buy a car , then its helpful to get shown cars for sale , by way of adverts. It sure is! And if you want to buy fertilizer, it is helpful to have the police knock on your door and ask you how you plan to use it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50soon Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Can not do anything really.. If they want catch you, they will catch you.Give me enough cash and I can find you no matter what.See bin laden was found at the end. Envoyé de mon Nexus 7 en utilisant Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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