Hotel Raids continue in South Pattaya

[sam neuts]

Interesting Daily Mail story about travellers staying in a villa that was inspected.

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[sam neuts]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/beatthescammers/article-5889151/Holidaymakers-evicted-Airbnb-villas-foreign-police.html

Lucky my friends closed their villa rental business for daily rentals, and now only offer 30+ days. Obviously a drop in income and some staff losses but at least they dont have to worry anymore.

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[BestB]

1 hour ago, Pattaya46 said:

- I put owner in "quotes" as officially - as often - he is not the owner. His wife was inside with the team.

- false information?? I think you may be able to read this post on Pattaya-Addicts without login : Sexy in the City - Guest House Soi 6  post #81. It's just an example of the guesthouse license I talked about: "That has now been resolved and a new guest house license is available which we now have and we are openly booking and advertising again. Everything is good and we welcome you to resume booking."

Pattaya addicts is not exactly

the beacon or the source of reliable information .

 

once again, there is no such a thing as guesthouse license.

 

Ask AJ to post a scan of this license 

 

what someone was possibly able to obtain is an exclusion.

 

please stop spreading rumours without any hard proof from a sex monger site.

Edited June 27, 2018 by BestB

[tjg27]

Dail Mail UK 27 June 18

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[BestB]

31 minutes ago, tjg27 said:

Dail Mail UK 27 June 18

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Makes a good headline for potential tourists , does not it?!

[The manic]

Just now, BestB said:

Makes a good headline for potential tourists , does not it?!

But not Thailand unfortunately 

[DrTuner]

1 hour ago, BestB said:

Makes a good headline for potential tourists , does not it?!

"Get a real hotel or prepare to be tarred & feathered by angry homeowners". Me likey.

[sam neuts]

I have been trying to warn people for a few weeks since a friend of mine requested an inspection at their villa from District office and City Hall.

 

They were told it required a Hotel Licence.

[BestB]

45 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

"Get a real hotel or prepare to be tarred & feathered by angry homeowners". Me likey.

Define real hotel? 

[BestB]

8 minutes ago, sam neuts said:

I have been trying to warn people for a few weeks since a friend of mine requested an inspection at their villa from District office and City Hall.

 

They were told it required a Hotel Licence.

Anything for daily rental requires hotel hotel license now 

[Spidey]

On ‎6‎/‎24‎/‎2018 at 5:18 AM, sam neuts said:

And if you think it is OK to put these businessmen in chains then please let me know which other countries do that, for an offence that could easily be solved by issuing a summons. Remember these are juat Hotel Owners/Managers doing the same job with the same legally correct licences for many previous years.

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U.K. for one. Accomodation with six letting rooms or more is required to adhere to fire safety regulations. e.g. Fire alarm system, emergency lighting, appropriate fire escapes, emergency exit signs and more. About time Thailand started taking visitor safety seriously.

[DrTuner]

24 minutes ago, BestB said:

Define real hotel? 

My own definition is a zoned building explicitly built and meant to be used as a hotel, properly licensed, and disclosed as such to any nearby residents at the time they purchased any property within the immediate vicinity. Not some ad-hoc residential flophouse operating under the radar in a residential condo/village where the owner had the brilliant idea to flog it off as a daily rental on some shady website.

 

Thai government's definition could be anything between the core of the earth and nearby galaxies, depends on the phase of the moon. Maybe it coincides with my view once in 1000 years. 

[sam neuts]

http://www.khaosodenglish.com/featured/2018/06/25/airbnb-teases-major-partnership-with-thai-govt/

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[morrobay]

3 hours ago, BestB said:

Pattaya addicts is not exactly

the beacon or the source of reliable information .

 

once again, there is no such a thing as guesthouse license.

 

Ask AJ to post a scan of this license 

 

what someone was possibly able to obtain is an exclusion.

 

please stop spreading rumours without any hard proof from a sex monger site.

See P Addicts, barstoolbanter. Change to guesthouse rules/crackdown posts 238 -240 from a not happy guesthouse owner

[BestB]

3 minutes ago, morrobay said:

See P Addicts, barstoolbanter. Change to guesthouse rules/crackdown posts 238 -240 from a not happy guesthouse owner

Do not need to see, have been raided, jailed and judged already. Been through all imaginable shiittt with all involved . 

 

There is no guesthouse license .what some possibly getting is an exclusion order.

 

my accountant today advised to add “daily” into my room for rent license . Which would get you arrested all the same unless you can get an exclusion order

[Rimmer]

An off topic post has been removed, if you want to know about land and house ownership please check or start a topic in Real Estate, housing, house and land ownership

[BestB]

2 hours ago, DrTuner said:

My own definition is a zoned building explicitly built and meant to be used as a hotel, properly licensed, and disclosed as such to any nearby residents at the time they purchased any property within the immediate vicinity. Not some ad-hoc residential flophouse operating under the radar in a residential condo/village where the owner had the brilliant idea to flog it off as a daily rental on some shady website.

 

Thai government's definition could be anything between the core of the earth and nearby galaxies, depends on the phase of the moon. Maybe it coincides with my view once in 1000 years. 

 

So you only stay in 5 star hotels right? Good to see yet another mogul on Thai visa ?

[BestB]

2 hours ago, Spidey said:

U.K. for one. Accomodation with six letting rooms or more is required to adhere to fire safety regulations. e.g. Fire alarm system, emergency lighting, appropriate fire escapes, emergency exit signs and more. About time Thailand started taking visitor safety seriously.

Who ever told you hotels that are being raided do not adhere to fire safety regulations?

 

And in UK , the same six letting rooms, would be illegal for daily rentals but legal for monthly? or it would not make any difference? If illegal then illegal for all?

[DrTuner]

23 minutes ago, BestB said:

So you only stay in 5 star hotels right? Good to see yet another mogul on Thai visa ?

These days mostly yes. Too old for others, my fine arse requires proper accommodation. But even when I slummed out in my youth I didn't go sleeping in other people's houses.

[sam neuts]

Interesting article from a few months ago which gives a few reasons the Gov't are working to control the rental market a bit more.

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[morrobay]

Can you summerize the article which seems to be down some never ending rabbit hole.

[JAZZDOG]

20 hours ago, DrTuner said:

My own definition is a zoned building explicitly built and meant to be used as a hotel, properly licensed, and disclosed as such to any nearby residents at the time they purchased any property within the immediate vicinity. Not some ad-hoc residential flophouse operating under the radar in a residential condo/village where the owner had the brilliant idea to flog it off as a daily rental on some shady website.

 

Thai government's definition could be anything between the core of the earth and nearby galaxies, depends on the phase of the moon. Maybe it coincides with my view once in 1000 years. 

Or maybe you would have been served well by doing a bit more due diligence when you purchased. Renting out condos short term is not exactly a new deal. Looking to the government to bail you out of a poor decision isn't a sure thing.

[DrTuner]

24 minutes ago, JAZZDOG said:

Or maybe you would have been served well by doing a bit more due diligence when you purchased. Renting out condos short term is not exactly a new deal. Looking to the government to bail you out of a poor decision isn't a sure thing.

Try doing due diligence on opportunists and crooks hiding under the radar. It's government's duty to throw them in the slammer for breaking the law. I'd prefer a bottomless pit. 

 

This whole "sharing economy" thing seems to be some millenial idea of neo-socialism where they can do as they please. The entire generation needs a month long bitchslapping session. Add to that Chinese laundering money through shell companies and the time for a proper crackdown, preferably with bazookas, is right in order.

[JAZZDOG]

13 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

Try doing due diligence on opportunists and crooks hiding under the radar. It's government's duty to throw them in the slammer for breaking the law. I'd prefer a bottomless pit. 

 

This whole "sharing economy" thing seems to be some millenial idea of neo-socialism where they can do as they please. The entire generation needs a month long bitchslapping session. Add to that Chinese laundering money through shell companies and the time for a proper crackdown, preferably with bazookas, is right in order.

Reason #67 for not buying a condo

- There is a good possibility  a general in the condo gestapo might live next door

[cmsally]

Here in CM the "Or Bor Jor" have sent out a letter notifying people about a seminar they are holding. This seems to be basically about how to get legal ie get a license.

It doesn't seem they have other ideas or ways to get a round it , so if you can't get one I don't think it would work out. But kudos to them for at least putting forward some info about the process, because basically no one has done that so far.

[BestB]

1 hour ago, cmsally said:

Here in CM the "Or Bor Jor" have sent out a letter notifying people about a seminar they are holding. This seems to be basically about how to get legal ie get a license.

It doesn't seem they have other ideas or ways to get a round it , so if you can't get one I don't think it would work out. But kudos to them for at least putting forward some info about the process, because basically no one has done that so far.

DO not hold me to it , but I been told just few mins ago,  they just released new regulation or set of rules specifically for small hotels .

 

i will find out more information by Monday .

[cmsally]

35 minutes ago, BestB said:

DO not hold me to it , but I been told just few mins ago,  they just released new regulation or set of rules specifically for small hotels .

 

i will find out more information by Monday .

In which case they will be giving info on new regulations ! Would make sense as the OR Bor Jor has lost a lot of income as people paying no tax because they have been closed or should be closed.

[BestB]

22 minutes ago, cmsally said:

In which case they will be giving info on new regulations ! Would make sense as the OR Bor Jor has lost a lot of income as people paying no tax because they have been closed or should be closed.

Do not want to jump

the gun yet, need to hear it from the horses mouth but it is just as I said few pages ago. Once money dries up and big boys not willing to fill up, regs will be changed.

 

money money money

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, cmsally said:

In which case they will be giving info on new regulations ! Would make sense as the OR Bor Jor has lost a lot of income as people paying no tax because they have been closed or should be closed.

Not to mention the other demographic, which is not to be named, but which we all know, that may be looking at a significant reduction of their "income".

[BestB]

7 hours ago, cmsally said:

In which case they will be giving info on new regulations ! Would make sense as the OR Bor Jor has lost a lot of income as people paying no tax because they have been closed or should be closed.

I think I need to take back what I said before . I got the “ new regulations “ in Thai and it’s basically same old crap on how to become legal . Which is pretty funny considering most people are aware of how , they just not able to comply with requirements