Most Thais Think Economy Bad, Getting Worse

[johng]

Correction
16,990bht delivered from Lazada (4k UHD), but how often do I buy a big TV?

After the big lightning storm ?

[johng]

A great job of what?

Acquiring expensive watches,submarines,statues and satellites.

[Eric Loh]

26 minutes ago, mogandave said:

 

I think it’s what it is. Businesses need to compete if they want to stay in business.

 

People get tired of trading with shops that change the sell-by dates and restaurants with dirty kitchens and or bathrooms.

 

Do you think the employees are generally treated better at Tesco or a mom and pop shop?

 

Fast food is not putting good restaurants out of business.

 

What do you think?

 

 

Will be hard to compete with the big corporations as they have the financial muscle to force suppliers to cut prices and give long credit terms. You gains are suppliers lost. 

 

The mom and pop shops that I patronized have a nice personal relationship, know my name and my favorite products. Doubt Tesco can treat you the same. Can they? 

 

Most small restaurants have clean toilet facilities as they also use it.

 

Fast food affect small businesses and destroying the tradition food culture. What you think?

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Bwlch]

I’m a master...

I paid 22k for a 44” Samsung flat-screen a few years ago and today I can get 55” Samsung flat-screen for 21k.

That proves inflation is NEGATIVE!!!!!

All that proves is that you have more money than sense.


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[mogandave]

Will be hard to compete with the big corporations as they have the financial muscle to force suppliers to cut prices and give long credit terms. You gains are suppliers lost. 
 
The mom and pop shops that I patronized have a nice personal relationship, know my name and my favorite products. Doubt Tesco can treat you the same. Can they? 
 
Most small restaurants have clean toilet facilities as they also use it.
 
Fast food affect small businesses and destroying the tradition food culture. What you think?
 
 
 
 
 
 

Shops that treat people well and offer good products at reasonable value continue to have customers. You and I continue to trade with them, yes?

Most small restaurants have clean toilets? That just has not been my experience, but in any event, restaurants that offer good service and clean, tasty food at competitive prices will do fine. You and I will continue to trade with them?”, yes?

A nice Vietnamese restaurant opened a couple years ago, great fresh spring rolls. Does that not negatively affect existing small businesses and destroy the traditional food culture?

I think people should eat where they want.

[mogandave]

All that proves is that you have more money than sense.


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You can have the sense, I’ll take the money...

[mercman24]

most Thais dont even know what day it is,,   lol

[mogandave]

most Thais dont even know what day it is,,   lol

They got your money...

[Eric Loh]

2 minutes ago, mogandave said:

 

Shops that treat people well and offer good products at reasonable value continue to have customers. You and I continue to trade with them, yes?

Most small restaurants have clean toilets? That just has not been my experience, but in any event, restaurants that offer good service and clean, tasty food at competitive prices will do fine. You and I will continue to trade with them?”, yes?

A nice Vietnamese restaurant opened a couple years ago, great fresh spring rolls. Does that not negatively affect existing small businesses and destroy the traditional food culture?

I think people should eat where they want.

 

I certainly will want to do business with those shops that treat their customers well and have good food. However the reality is that most of these small shops and restaurants will not be around when

the big chains muscle their way

into the local community. That’s why I am advocating a government intervention to listen to the people concerns and have regulations regarding where the big chains can operate. Elected government with accountability tends to do better in this respect. 

[mogandave]

I certainly will want to do business with those shops that treat their customers well and have good food. However the reality is that most of these small shops and restaurants will not be around when
the big chains muscle their way
into the local community. That’s why I am advocating a government intervention to listen to the people concerns and have regulations regarding where the big chains can operate. Elected government with accountability tends to do better in this respect. 

So you would deny a hundred thousand working Thais a nice new Tesco to benefit a few hundred shop owners?

No doubt when Tesco is barred from a particular area the local businesses will lower their prices and improve their service.

What about HomePro, PowerBuy, Starbucks, Ptt, Major Cineplex & Thai Airways, they all have to go as well?

[sawadee1947]

3 hours ago, LomSak27 said:

You have rich people having problems, and poor people really in trouble, yet what are you doing, whinging about the the Shins.

My God, maybe you get paid for these posts,  but try to show a little empathy even if its fake.

Empathy for rich people with there problems? Yeah hurrah, that's it 

[brling]

1 hour ago, sambum said:

"this is a Thai forum"

 

So why does it state in the Rules:-

"English is the only acceptable language anywhere on ThaiVisa including Classifieds, except within the Thai language forum, where of course using Thai is allowed."

 

If it was a Thai forum, then Thai would be the only acceptable language ...........etc etc

 

 

 

Nonsense, english language about Thai, unless its in the "world section" of the forum. This topic is in the Thai news. Wise up.

[NorthernRyland]

1 hour ago, Wang Lalker said:

take a look at phnom penh cambodia. the amount of proportional new developement is is far in excess of anywhere i have ever seen. streets i once knew well have become unrecognizable didnt go to sihanookville but from what i've read its even going ahead faster than phnom penh with new chinese mega money

I was just down in Kam Pot and they said Chinese had bought up sihanookville, kicked out the white guys and only rent to other Chinese now. Cambodia allows them to own land so they've decided to take their investment money there.

[bkk6060]

5 minutes ago, genericptr said:

I was just down in Kam Pot and they said Chinese had bought up sihanookville, kicked out the white guys and only rent to other Chinese now. Cambodia allows them to own land so they've decided to take their investment money there.

I certainly hope that is true.

[NorthernRyland]

1 minute ago, bkk6060 said:

I certainly hope that is true.

why?? It was totally f**cked there in the Airport. Yelling Chinese people everywhere. The old shop owners that got kicked out weren't so happy either and apparently the beach (I didn't get to go there) has been transformed into a Chinese-only zone. Basically the Cambodian version of China town.

[mogandave]

why?? It was totally f**cked there in the Airport. Yelling Chinese people everywhere. The old shop owners that got kicked out weren't so happy either and apparently the beach (I didn't get to go there) has been transformed into a Chinese-only zone. Basically the Cambodian version of China town.

Better there than here...

[bkk6060]

5 minutes ago, genericptr said:

why?? It was totally f**cked there in the Airport. Yelling Chinese people everywhere. The old shop owners that got kicked out weren't so happy either and apparently the beach (I didn't get to go there) has been transformed into a Chinese-only zone. Basically the Cambodian version of China town.

It makes me happy.

[Dumbastheycome]

Inflation  is  the  measure  of a healthy  economy......for economists!

For  the  average earner it is the  perpetual   drain  of the  pocket.

For  the Tax  Department it  is an incremental  increase  in  the VAT  take thus  the  wheel of the money  go round  may seem  slower but  is bigger.

A  vast  number of  the Thai population pay only  the  VAT  in purchases.  

If  any  system  was  introduced in Thailand that emulated  the  tax  take  in  most fully developed  locations then   there  could  be  cause  for more  valid comment.

That  Thailand can not  only  survive  but also  improve  infrastructurally  on  the   current situation despite the  acknowledged  corruption should raise questions as  to   why  taxation  is  so  draconian in  western  countries !

And  which  country  is not  already indebted  to  the  IMF  or   World  Bank as  it stands?

Of  course  it  is  of concern  to those  expat  refugees   who  long stay in Thailand on the  basis  of  a  cheap  existence derived  from  an ever decreasing value,  exchange rate, purchasing capacity from whatever income they access.

But for  them......cry  in   your  soup. You  will  at  least  recycle the  salt from  the  sweat  of  the  stress !

 

 

[Brunolem]

2 hours ago, GaryAdriaenssens said:

We could also ask ourselves this question "where is it really going well these days?" Don't tell me the EU, please! ?

Bhutan?

[stephen tracy]

1 hour ago, johng said:

2 hours ago, stephen tracy said:

A great job of what?

Acquiring expensive watches,submarines,statues and satellites.

And robbing plaques.

[Brunolem]

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

Those bars, restaurants and mom and pop shops don’t fit into the category of SME. You don’t feel that the big supermarkets, fast food titans killing small businesses and dismantling the thread that holds local community together. These big corporation control prices, suppliers and products. You think that’s good? 

 

Unfortunately, most countries are morphing into oligarchies.

The fact that an economy may be humming or even booming doesn't mean that everyone is benefiting from it.

A good example of what you say is Amazon in America.

Its founder is the richest guy in the world, its employees cannot even take a break for a piss, and because this giant is selling at a loss, it is completely destroying the American retail network, meaning that thousands of people are losing their jobs.

 

[Brunolem]

1 hour ago, bkk6060 said:

 

 

I have never asked that because I am very happy.

And, it goes very well every afternoon in my bedroom. ?

Again, if some want to wallow in negativity "nothing is good the whole world sucks" up to them.

It's a choice really.

I guess that you are not a Buddhist...

[Cadbury]

Can't be all that bad. Seems sex toy shops are on a roll. Perhaps some retailers should switch their merchandise.

[Brunolem]

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

That’s why I am advocating a government intervention to listen to the people concerns and have regulations regarding where the big chains can operate. Elected government with accountability tends to do better in this respect. 

Unfortunately, politicians tend to favor those who contribute the most to their campaigns.

This is in fact thanks to governments, local or national, that the big chains have been able to crush the opposition.

I remember, decades ago, the debate about whether super and hypermarkets should be let free to roam, knowing that they would destroy mom and pops shops...we all know how it ended...

[manarak]

On 6/6/2018 at 2:49 PM, jayboy said:

Sorry to hear about your sister in law.But it probably has less to do with the strength of the Baht than an noncompetitive overall cost structure, a huge problem in the Thai textile industry.

yes...

at the same time it's difficult for me to ignore the irony.

the baht is high because the country's finances are doing not bad - it seems that Western policies of distributing free money and running deficits in the end hurts countries like Thailand which avoided too much socialist policies.

[Brunolem]

35 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said:

 

That  Thailand can not  only  survive  but also  improve  infrastructurally  on  the   current situation despite the  acknowledged  corruption should raise questions as  to   why  taxation  is  so  draconian in  western  countries !

 

Taxation (+ debt) in Western countries finance a ruinous welfare and warfare state that doesn't exist in Thailand

[Dumbastheycome]

6 minutes ago, Brunolem said:

Taxation (+ debt) in Western countries finance a ruinous welfare and warfare state that doesn't exist in Thailand

You  believe  Thailand  is   actually  so  far   behind? 

[Brunolem]

2 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said:

You  believe  Thailand  is   actually  so  far   behind? 

It sure is!

The welfare here is minimal, or even below minimal.

As for the warfare, Thailand is not constantly engaged in various and meaningless military conflicts.

Having an army is one thing, but deploying it all over the world increase its cost fivefolds!

 

[Dumbastheycome]

29 minutes ago, Brunolem said:

Unfortunately, most countries are morphing into oligarchies.

The fact that an economy may be humming or even booming doesn't mean that everyone is benefiting from it.

A good example of what you say is Amazon in America.

Its founder is the richest guy in the world, its employees cannot even take a break for a piss, and because this giant is selling at a loss, it is completely destroying the American retail network, meaning that thousands of people are losing their jobs.

 

And   how  much  comment  is there  on the  long term strategy  of  that?   The  greed  is   short term  because  beggars   cannot  pay. So  why?  I  have  no direction  to  understanding  what  is  happening. That the world  is  becoming  strange  is  not  a satisfactory   answer.  

[spidermike007]

4 hours ago, stropper said:

i beleive that you are the goon! if you do not like it here get back to where your came from, your most likely another bludging pommy <deleted>, whinger, sick of yas. the present people in charge in thailand are doing a great job! if you cared to look further than around your bar stool 

Funny reply. Sounds like you either have some anger issues, or work for the government goons. I do not hang out at bars. Rarely. And there are more than likely less than 1,000 people nationwide that agree with your assessment that the present people in charge are doing a great job. However, you could probably get a job doing PR for the little man, if you needed the cash.

 

Very lame. Nearly every time I see someone complaining, or observing a shortfall within Thailand, some lame guy, who has not taken the time to think things through, nor to devote any focus or effort to a reasonable reply, says something like "Perhaps Thailand is not for you", or maybe you should leave, or the top prize, "if you do not like it here, go back to your own country". Hard to even respond to such inane statements. Why? Because I have some issues with the place? Sorry to inform you, but the nature of a discerning mind, is to have issues. Though absolute contentment must be a beautiful state of mind, it is not something most of us are blessed with, in case you have not noticed. The fact that I complain, does not mean I do not love Thailand, nor most of it's people. I do. I love my life here. I have a very good life here. But, I do have some complaints, and there are some things I would love to see improved. I should leave because of that? Please. Next time you make a post, try to devote at least two moments of thought to it. 

Edited June 7, 2018 by spidermike007