Popular Post Chivas Posted June 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2018 Recreated with the errors from the Pilots, ATC and the general lack of clear communication that ends with the Jumbo on the golf course. Plane was eventually put back into service after extensive damage Qantas' most significant incident but no loss of life (You may need to click out an advert that interrupted me at the 10 minute mark) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55Jay Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 They screwed the pooch on that one. And? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, Chivas said: general lack of clear communication As often in such accidents. "Lucky" in this case. The mother of bad communication cost 583 lives (1977, Los Rodeos, PanAm 747 vs. KLM 747). Edited June 8, 2018 by KhunBENQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivas Posted June 8, 2018 Author Share Posted June 8, 2018 48 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said: As often in such accidents. "Lucky" in this case. The mother of bad communication cost 583 lives (1977, Los Rodeos, PanAm 747 vs. KLM 747). Certainly was no question. For me on this particular incident its the 2nd officer keeping quiet about the ever increasing rain because the captain and 1st officer had had an earlier conversation about the same subject Words were left unspoken and the end result we know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 I was stunned to read that they did a 100 million Dollar (!) repair just to avoid a hull loss in their records. Did passengers in later years know what plane they were flying on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post reargunnerph3 Posted June 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2018 Qantas changed the standard policy on the advice of bean counters to land with flaps set at 25 degrees instead of 30 degrees, this saves fuel and no reverse thrust as it's cheaper to replace brakes than worn engines. So the landing speed was higher than it used to be. I flew for 30 years for Qantas and flew on VH-OJH "The Golf Buggy" plenty of times and it was safe to fly on because most of it was new. Flying is still the safest way to travel. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 I read the full report years ago, they sent the data to Boeing and they replied "yep, using that speed and configuration you're going off the end with what you did" Also flew on it from Heathrow (BA codeshare) cheekily looked for wrinkles which amused the CSD, he told me not to mention the golf course ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevo2207 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 One of the pilots of that flight came to my place once for dinner I remember joking with him asking if he had any trouble pulling up in the driveway in the car LOL.One good thing they were off work for a long time on full pay while they investigated it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oztruckie Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 There's a good book titled, The People Who Killed Qantas, or something like that, it's all about this type of stuff, and includes the story about the 747 that run off the runway at Changi many years ago, good read. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bra Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Here is the full ATSB report for those interested: https://www.atsb.gov.au/media/24447/aair199904538_001.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Theory Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 They should put the pilots on Baht cars for more practice and communications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivas Posted June 9, 2018 Author Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) The actual Qantas 747 "Longreach" was the aircraft in the accident featured in the BBC show Airport in the 1990's on multiple occasions Edited June 9, 2018 by Chivas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiowl Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Remember the incident well. The joke at the time that one of the fairways at the nearby airport golf course was renamed "The Qantas Approach". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaunoro Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Indeed. Played golf a few times at Thai RAF golf course between the runways. All rather surreal playing between the runways. Qantas Longreach became an immovable obstruction, so a free drop was allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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