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Exclusive - U.S. sending 1,600 immigration detainees to federal prisons

By Sarah N. Lynch and Kristina Cooke

 

FILE PHOTO: The badge of a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement's (ICE) Fugitive Operations team is seen in Santa Ana, California, U.S., May 11, 2017. REUTERS/Lucy Nicholson/File Photo

 

WASHINGTON/SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - U.S. authorities are transferring into federal prisons about 1,600 Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) detainees, officials told Reuters on Thursday, in the first large-scale use of federal prisons to hold detainees amid a Trump administration crackdown on people entering the country illegally.

 

An ICE spokeswoman told Reuters five federal prisons will temporarily take in detainees awaiting civil immigration court hearings, including potential asylum seekers, with one prison in Victorville, California, preparing to house 1,000 people.

 

President Donald Trump has made his hard-line stance on immigration an integral part of his presidency and has promised to build a wall along the U.S.-Mexican border to stem the flow of migrants. He has also promised to keep immigrants targeted for deportation locked up “pending the outcome of their removal proceedings.”

 

Under former President Barack Obama, many immigrants without serious criminal records were allowed to await their court dates while living in the United States. Others were housed in immigration detention facilities or local jails.

 

The new policy drew immediate criticism from immigration advocates and former officials.

 

Kevin Landy, a former ICE assistant director responsible for the Office of Detention Policy and Planning under the Obama administration, said the move to house so many detainees at once in federal prisons was “highly unusual” and raises oversight concerns.

 

“A large percent of ICE detainees have no criminal record and are more vulnerable in a prison setting – security staff and administrators at BOP facilities have spent their careers dealing with hardened criminals serving long sentences for serious felonies, and the procedures and staff training reflect that,” he said. “This sudden mass transfer could result in some serious problems.”

 

Officials of a prison employees' union said the influx of ICE detainees, who were arrested at the border or elsewhere in the United States by immigration officials, raises questions about prison staffing and safety.

 

Union leaders at prisons in California, Texas and Washington state who spoke to Reuters said they had little time to prepare for the large intake of detainees.

 

At Victorville, the prison getting the largest number of people, workers are moving about 500 inmates in a medium-security facility to make space, said John Kostelnik, local president for the American Federation of Government Employees Council of Prison Locals union.

 

"There is so much movement going on," said Kostelnik. "Everyone is running around like a chicken without their head."

 

In addition to Victorville, other prisons that have received or will receive detainees include ones in Washington state, Oregon, Arizona and Texas.

 

ICE spokeswoman Dani Bennett said ICE is "working to meet the demand for additional immigration detention space" due to a surge in illegal border crossings and a U.S. Department of Justice zero-tolerance policy.

 

"To meet this need, ICE is collaborating with the U.S. Marshals Service (USMS), the Bureau of Prisons (BOP), private detention facility operators and local government agencies," she said in a statement to Reuters.

 

In April 2018, nearly 51,000 people were apprehended at or near the southern border, up from about 16,000 in the same month a year earlier.

 

A new agreement between ICE and the Justice Department makes about 1,600 prison beds available and is expected to last 120 days, giving ICE time to secure more space for detainees. It comes amid a crackdown by Attorney General Jeff Sessions on both illegal border crossings and people seeking asylum.

 

Recently, Sessions said the Justice Department planned to prosecute every person who crosses the border illegally and to separate migrant children from their parents.

 

Trump in the spring signed a memorandum ending "catch and release," in which illegal immigrants were released from detention while awaiting court hearings.

 

According to ICE data, the average daily population of detainees in its facilities as of May 26 was 41,134, up from the 2017 daily average of 38,106.

 

Immigration advocates immediately decried the news of sending detainees to federal penitentiaries.

 

"Our federal prisons are set up to detain the worst of the worst. They should not be used for immigration purposes," said Ali Noorani, the executive director of the National Immigration Forum.

 

“Federal prisons are for hardened criminals. They are not physically set up for immigrant landscapers looking for a job or fleeing violence,” Noorani said.

 

(Reporting by Sarah N. Lynch in Washington and Kristina Cooke in San Francisco; Editing by Kevin Drawbaugh and Lisa Shumaker)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-06-08

[impulse]

I smell the influence of the prison industry lobbyists...

 

[riclag]

“Federal prisons are for hardened criminals. They are not physically set up for immigrant landscapers looking for a job or fleeing violence,” Noorani said. "A large percent of ICE detainees have no criminal record" . Sounds like ICE  rounding up illegals!

 Logistically cost efficient to put them there,I imagine.They got enough beds and  rooms to temporarily detain them.

[flyingtlger]

That's all the US needs...more prisoners in an overcrowded prison system.

Moreover, these immigrants are willing to do jobs that most Americans are unwilling to do....

 

[riclag]

1 hour ago, flyingtlger said:

That's all the US needs...more prisoners in an overcrowded prison system.

Moreover, these immigrants are willing to do jobs that most Americans are unwilling to do....

 

Their illegal aliens They are temporarily  detained.We have a work program already.

https://www.uscis.gov/working-united-states/temporary-workers/h-2a-temporary-agricultural-workers

 

Edited June 8, 2018 by riclag

[dorchester]

bill the host countries for all expenses incured

[Srikcir]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

crackdown on people entering the country illegally

Many of these immigrants entered legally but overstayed.

Edited June 8, 2018 by Srikcir
dw

[Proboscis]

5 hours ago, dorchester said:

bill the host countries for all expenses incured

Why? The host country is the USA in this report.

 

If you mean the country of origin, then again, why? Especially if the individuals travelled over several other countries to get to the borders of the USA. And what if countries like Venezuela cannot and will not pay for it? What do you do then.

 

All I can say is, USA, do the Texan thing and "Cowboy Up." In the EU, we have people dying in their hundreds and thousands in the Mediteranean trying to escape from poverty (most of Africa, especially sub-Saharan Africa), war and its aftermath (Iraq, Syria etc) and places like Eritrea (where you can be put into "national service" for years which amounts to slavery) or places like the West Bank (where you are not allowed in or out, like the largest prison camp in the world). We have a lot of people who have very good reasons for wanting to go to Europe and to get out of where they are now. And we don't have the wide open spaces of the USA nor the orange groves of California in which to put them to work.

[buick]

having the illegal aliens detained while waiting to know if their status will change will also eliminate the possibility of them having a child on US soil.  i'm all for legal immigrants and their children being US citizens at birth.  but that should not apply to illegal aliens. 

Edited June 8, 2018 by buick

[Basil B]

10 hours ago, riclag said:

“Federal prisons are for hardened criminals. They are not physically set up for immigrant landscapers looking for a job or fleeing violence,” Noorani said. "A large percent of ICE detainees have no criminal record" . Sounds like ICE  rounding up illegals!

 Logistically cost efficient to put them there,I imagine.They got enough beds and  rooms to temporarily detain them.

Can not speak for America, but there are many Illegal Immigrants in the UK, the immigration service has no where to send them so they let them go telling them to report every week, they soon disappear failing to report there where about's when again they are found working on a immigration raid  on dodgy employers, again they are released due the lack of holding cells... it a revolving door.

[SOTIRIOS]

....define 'temporarily'....

 

...and define 'police state'....and ....'human rights violations'......???

[Expatthailover]

Good job ivana and melania werent put into detention both foreign immigrants. He wouldnt have any kids. 

Then again for shallowest president in history they had certain assets of interest for his sort.

[sanemax]

2 minutes ago, Expatthailover said:

Good job ivana and melania werent put into detention both foreign immigrants. He wouldnt have any kids. 

Then again for shallowest president in history they had certain assets of interest for his sort.

Did Ivana and Melania enter the USA illegally ?

[elnet1]

3 hours ago, Proboscis said:

Why? The host country is the USA in this report.

 

 

No, a "host country" is like Canada, where Trudeau invited immigrants in:  “To those fleeing persecution, terror & war, Canadians will welcome you, regardless of your faith. Diversity is our strength #WelcomeToCanada.”

 

Now, you show me where anyone "invited" immigrants into the United States without going through the proper channels??????

 

These people are flooding the US, without any background screening at all, where 10's of thousands of citizens are homeless and unable to find work living on the streets.

 

Like the EU AND Canada, where they found out that too many immigrants are a burden. Many countries have taken the welcome mat away.

 

“You will not be at an advantage if you choose to enter Canada irregularly. You must follow the rules and there are many.”

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/25/justin-trudeau-forced-to-backtrack-on-open-invitation-to-refugees

 

[andersonat]

3 hours ago, sanemax said:

Did Ivana and Melania enter the USA illegally ?

 

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43256318

 

"Melania Trump obtained US citizenship on a visa reserved for immigrants with "extraordinary ability" and "sustained national and international acclaim", according to a report in the Washington Post.

Nicknamed the "Einstein Visa", the EB-1 is in theory reserved for people who are highly acclaimed in their field - the government cites Pulitzer, Oscar, and Olympic winners as examples - as well as respected academic researchers and multinational executives.

Mrs Trump began applying for the visa in 2000, when she was Melania Knauss, a Slovenian model working in New York and dating Donald Trump. She was approved in 2001, one of just five people from Slovenia to win the coveted visa that year, according to the Post.

Becoming a citizen in 2006 gave her the right to sponsor her parents, Viktor and Amalija Knavs, who are now in the US and in the process of applying for citizenship. 

The reports of how Mrs Trump obtained her EB-1 visa will rankle with some, at a time when her husband is railing against immigrants and attempting to scrap the right of new citizens to sponsor family members. And questions have been raised about her suitability for the extraordinary ability category."

 

 

[Credo]

4 hours ago, Expatthailover said:

Good job ivana and melania werent put into detention both foreign immigrants. He wouldnt have any kids. 

Then again for shallowest president in history they had certain assets of interest for his sort.

Both of them ended up in a prison of sorts.

 

[Scott]

15 hours ago, riclag said:

“Federal prisons are for hardened criminals. They are not physically set up for immigrant landscapers looking for a job or fleeing violence,” Noorani said. "A large percent of ICE detainees have no criminal record" . Sounds like ICE  rounding up illegals!

 Logistically cost efficient to put them there,I imagine.They got enough beds and  rooms to temporarily detain them.

Prisons are enormously expensive, so this would not be a cost effective measure.   Simple detention centers are a much cheaper alternative.  

[riclag]

Prisons are enormously expensive, so this would not be a cost effective measure.   Simple detention centers are a much cheaper alternative.  

"To meet this need, ICE is collaborating with the U.S. Marshals Service (USMS), the Bureau of Prisons (BOP), private detention facility operators and local government agencies," she said in a statement to Reuters.
Sounds like ICE has covered their butts by meeting the standard requirement for holding detainees (beds ,shelter food and medical facilities .


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[Scott]

20 minutes ago, riclag said:

"To meet this need, ICE is collaborating with the U.S. Marshals Service (USMS), the Bureau of Prisons (BOP), private detention facility operators and local government agencies," she said in a statement to Reuters.
Sounds like ICE has covered their butts by meeting the standard requirement for holding detainees (beds ,shelter food and medical facilities .


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My remark is not about the facility, per se, it is about the cost.   In State prisons the cost is between $32,000 - $60,000 per year.   Federal prisons are more expensive and prisoners in state or private facilities are charged a per diem rate that is expensive for housing prisons not usually under their jurisdiction.  

 

So, it is very costly.  

[wayned]

19 hours ago, dorchester said:

bill the host countries for all expenses incured

Bill Jeff Sessions!

[Scott]

And to add to the overall cost of some of these changes is the number of children being removed from the family.   The average cost for care for children removed is around $20,000 per year and there is an addition $6,000++ in administration fees for each child.  

 

Those placed in institutional care or receiving homes is much, much higher.  

[simoh1490]

The US rounds up illegal immigrants and throws them in jail and that's OK, Thailand rounds up illegal immigrants and deports them and that's an outrage apparently!

[BuaBS]

They could use Fema camps with some extra security.

[simple1]

55 minutes ago, simoh1490 said:

The US rounds up illegal immigrants and throws them in jail and that's OK, Thailand rounds up illegal immigrants and deports them and that's an outrage apparently!

If found guilty and there are relevant government to government agreements they will be deported. In the meantime...from the OP:

 

five federal prisons will temporarily take in detainees awaiting civil immigration court hearings, 

[sanemax]

1 hour ago, simoh1490 said:

The US rounds up illegal immigrants and throws them in jail and that's OK, Thailand rounds up illegal immigrants and deports them and that's an outrage apparently!

Who is "outraged" by Thailand deporting illegal immigrants ?

[simoh1490]

5 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Who is "outraged" by Thailand deporting illegal immigrants ?

Every time there's an article posted on TVF about Big Joke having rounded up foreigners who have overstayed their visa's in Thailand there's always a group that cries, soft targets, leave them alone or similar.

[wayned]

18 hours ago, BuaBS said:

They could use Fema camps with some extra security.

Might take them over 9 months to get electricity, ala Puerto Rico!  Remember, they are not citizens and can't vote!

[Credo]

We don't get much media coverage of how this affects some of the vulnerable people:

A family was separated at the border, and this distraught father took his own life

A Honduran father separated from his wife and child suffered a breakdown at a Texas jail and killed himself in a padded cell last month, according to Border Patrol agents and an incident report filed by sheriff’s deputies.

The death of Marco Antonio Muñoz, 39, has not been publicly disclosed by the Department of Homeland Security, and did not appear in any local news accounts. But according to a copy of a sheriff’s department report obtained by The Washington Post, Muñoz was found on the floor of his cell May 13 in a pool of blood with an item of clothing twisted around his neck.

 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/a-family-was-separated-at-the-border-and-this-distraught-father-took-his-own-life/2018/06/08/24e40b70-6b5d-11e8-9e38-24e693b38637_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.5ef559d789ac

 

I wonder how many other tragic outcomes we don't know about.