mrblonde Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Long story short, had enough of the politics and red tape in work in the UK and have always wanted to live in Thailand, I only really know of TEFL but not having a degree Im guessing it would be a no go for me. Are there any jobs westerners can do in Thailand? I'm an engineer by trade, 20 years experience etc etc, just asking here to see if there is anything I could do, how hard it is to get and what issues I may come up against Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Engineer is an occupation reserved for Thais. Although there is a proposal to let foreigners work as engineers, there will still be an exam in Thai. Most common work for westerners are chefs and English teachers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techno Viking Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, PoorSucker said: Engineer is an occupation reserved for Thais. Although there is a proposal to let foreigners work as engineers, there will still be an exam in Thai. Most common work for westerners are chefs and English teachers. Serious ? I know many engineers working in Thailand, surely they are not illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Techno Viking said: Serious ? I know many engineers working in Thailand, surely they are not illegal. It's on the list. Professional civil engineering concerning design and calculation, systemization, analysis, planning, testing, construction supervision, or consulting services, excluding work requiring specialized techniques. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post theguyfromanotherforum Posted June 26, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2018 9 minutes ago, Techno Viking said: Serious ? I know many engineers working in Thailand, surely they are not illegal. Sure there are many engineers working here. My wife's company has engineers from all over Europe. The difference is they have been transferred here on temporary basis. applying for a job in Thailand is a completely different matter. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techno Viking Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, PoorSucker said: It's on the list. Professional civil engineering concerning design and calculation, systemization, analysis, planning, testing, construction supervision, or consulting services, excluding work requiring specialized techniques. ahhh righto, Yeah none that I know are doing any civil engineering. Mostly Industrial/Chemical/Electrical/Automotive. Edited June 26, 2018 by Techno Viking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post observer90210 Posted June 26, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2018 How about becomming a farang Police volunteer in the world class quality tourist family resort and help out the amazing boys walking along the street, by the quiet beach roads ? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Search here. https://th.jobsdb.com/th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janner1 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, mrblonde said: Long story short, had enough of the politics and red tape in work in the UK and have always wanted to live in Thailand, I only really know of TEFL but not having a degree Im guessing it would be a no go for me. Are there any jobs westerners can do in Thailand? I'm an engineer by trade, 20 years experience etc etc, just asking here to see if there is anything I could do, how hard it is to get and what issues I may come up against Just get a teaching job and do not worry about it. There is at least one posting in here who has atrocious spelling, no grammar and a command of English that will not get him out of a wet paper bag but he is going to teach Thai children basic English, God help them. You could of course go to Khon Kaen university and get a qualification to teach English, it is recognised by the Thai authorities and will cost you around 20,000baht, a little over £400, so if you are serious it may be worth your time to check it out. You may even drop onto an course to learn Thai both of which will solve any visa problems in the short term before applying for a work related one after qualification. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFishman1 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Get a job with a big airline company then you can live anywhere I know a few engineers working for Boeing they live here do there work on line or by Skype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguyfromanotherforum Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 16 hours ago, Janner1 said: You could of course go to Khon Kaen university and get a qualification to teach English, it is recognised by the Thai authorities and will cost you around 20,000baht, a little over £400, so if you are serious it may be worth your time to check it out. Really? What do you mean get a qualification to teach? Like a teacher license? Because this fee is cheaper than TEFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 17 minutes ago, theguyfromanotherforum said: Really? What do you mean get a qualification to teach? Like a teacher license? Because this fee is cheaper than TEFL. Far as I know any degree suffices to be able to teach in LOS, though I have no idea why an unrelated degree would help with teaching. Certainly was the case when I was looking to be a teacher here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Far as I know any degree suffices to be able to teach in LOS, though I have no idea why an unrelated degree would help with teaching. Certainly was the case when I was looking to be a teacher here.It is ridiculous. A degree in any subject but no TEFL certificate qualifies you to teach English here, but a CELTA or Trinity plus loads of experience, but no degree is not considered enough for a work permit.Sent from my SM-G930F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: It is ridiculous. A degree in any subject but no TEFL certificate qualifies you to teach English here, but a CELTA or Trinity plus loads of experience, but no degree is not considered enough for a work permit. Sent from my SM-G930F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Agreed. I was going to do a TEFL, but luckily found out about the degree requirement before doing it. Perhaps it's because all politicians here apparently have to have a degree, and they have the mindset that just having a degree is all that is required to do a job. I don't know if it's true, but I heard that people working in 7 11 have to have a degree. Tell me if that's wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguyfromanotherforum Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 42 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Far as I know any degree suffices to be able to teach in LOS, though I have no idea why an unrelated degree would help with teaching. Certainly was the case when I was looking to be a teacher here. Well, you need a degree in Education to teach English legally. Any degree will do for only 4 years until your waivers expire. So, this is what I'm asking what does Khon Kaen university actually give you? A teacher's license? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcab Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said: ...I heard that people working in 7 11 have to have a degree. Tell me if that's wrong. That's wrong ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkcjag Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Google the subject. Apply to the career/job agencies who specialize in placing foreigners into professional and executive jobs in Thailand. e.g.: https://www.google.co.th/search?rlz=1C1CHZL_enTH735TH735&ei=PhYzW-W8NpWv9QOhv5vYDQ&q=jobs+for+foreigners+in+thailand&oq=jobs+for+foreigners+in+thailand&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i67k1j0i7i30k1l3j0j0i30k1j0i5i30k1l4.3850.3850.0.4216.1.1.0.0.0.0.77.77.1.1.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.1.77....0.4xxmnsfMdJ4 BTW I believe it's still the case that legally a foreigners salary has to be a minimum Baht50,000 per month. I also believe that many teaching posts offer less e.g. B30,000, so I'm not sure how that works. Specifically for teachers: https://www.google.co.th/search?q=salary+for+teaching+english+in+thailand&rlz=1C1CHZL_enTH735TH735&oq=salary+for+teaching+english+in+thailand&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l2.7800j1j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 https://www.internationalteflacademy.com/faq/how-much-money-can-i-make-teaching-english-in-thailand https://www.internationalteflacademy.com/thailand-english-teaching-jobs-abroad-asia I noticed on one of these links it's suggested that you can live comfortably on B30,000 per month, particularly outside Bangkok. I would suggest that really does depend on your definition of comfort. It certainly is nowhere near mine. You can certainly "survive" on that. As mentioned above many expats work here on a contract from a foreign company. You should expect between B100,000 and B200,000 per month for a professional post. Once here they search for permanent opportunities. Many expats have professional business here, and make far more. http://www.doingbusiness.org/data/exploreeconomies/thailand#starting-a-business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techno Viking Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, jkcjag said: BTW I believe it's still the case that legally a foreigners salary has to be a minimum Baht50,000 per month. I also believe that many teaching posts offer less e.g. B30,000, so I'm not sure how that works. The minimum salary is for the permission to stay extension, nothing to with issuance of workpermit to allow one to work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmonkey Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 To be honest TEFL is a bit of a joke. I did the TEFL course here in Thailand - it is a one month course which I believed would get refresh me in the basics of grammar etc. I could not have been more wrong. It focused solely on class control, lesson preparation and delivery (most of which is irrelevant if you are following school books!!!). What I learnt on that course I could have learnt easily in a week. There was no brushing up on grammar (when I asked about it I was told we'd pick it up on the job!!!!). TEFL is a joke and a rip-off if you ask me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheops Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) 20 hours ago, PoorSucker said: Engineer is an occupation reserved for Thais. Although there is a proposal to let foreigners work as engineers, there will still be an exam in Thai. Most common work for westerners are chefs and English teachers. Civil engineering is, but most other engineering is no problem. I'm working here on a local permanent contract for more than 13 years as an engineer (manager engineering now). Edited June 27, 2018 by Cheops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 If you have skills and qualifications that Thailand wants then sure, you could work here. But don't assume that teaching English or teaching anything is an easy peasy fall back job that anyone can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 " Long story short, had enough of the politics and red tape in work in the UK..." If you've had it enough in the UK... Thailand will be worse - just read the posts here. The people, the Government, roads, shops, the air, the ladies, the men, the lady boys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman777 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 The maintenance man in my condo is referred to as an Engineer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 3 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said: It is ridiculous. A degree in any subject but no TEFL certificate qualifies you to teach English here, but a CELTA or Trinity plus loads of experience, but no degree is not considered enough for a work permit. Sent from my SM-G930F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Just another case of "This is Thailand". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguyfromanotherforum Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 1 hour ago, greenmonkey said: To be honest TEFL is a bit of a joke. I did the TEFL course here in Thailand - it is a one month course which I believed would get refresh me in the basics of grammar etc. I could not have been more wrong. It focused solely on class control, lesson preparation and delivery (most of which is irrelevant if you are following school books!!!). What I learnt on that course I could have learnt easily in a week. There was no brushing up on grammar (when I asked about it I was told we'd pick it up on the job!!!!). TEFL is a joke and a rip-off if you ask me! Probably because teachers don't grammar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguyfromanotherforum Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 3 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said: It is ridiculous. A degree in any subject but no TEFL certificate qualifies you to teach English here, but a CELTA or Trinity plus loads of experience, but no degree is not considered enough for a work permit. Sent from my SM-G930F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app What do you mean it's ridiculous? It's great! A Serb like me can teach your kids English over a Brit without a degree. It's hilarious. God, I love Thailand!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaiChai Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 If you are an engineer you will get frustrated teaching English. Get an online job, work remotely, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thingamabob Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Only if you work for and are paid by a foreign company which will obtain your work permit. Otherwise forget about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Well, you need a degree in Education to teach English legally. Any degree will do for only 4 years until your waivers expire. So, this is what I'm asking what does Khon Kaen university actually give you? A teacher's license?That's not true. There are plenty of TEFL jobs teaching adults and businesses, not to mention a huge market in IELTS and other exams. A CELTA or Trinity is usually required, in addition to a degree in anything, although less choosy employers won't care about the TEFL. The qualifications for TEFL are pretty much the same the world over; due to its popularity, Thailand tends to be less choosy. Just another case of "This is Thailand".Not really. UK TEFL jobs have similar requirements.Sent from my SM-G930F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguyfromanotherforum Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: That's not true. There are plenty of TEFL jobs teaching adults and businesses, not to mention a huge market in IELTS and other exams. A CELTA or Trinity is usually required, in addition to a degree in anything, Yes, you are correct. I am not a teacher, so I think I should have said government schools. Anyway, I am interested what Khon Kaen University gives you that is recognized by Thai authorities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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