rooster59 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Trump ally Giuliani says end is near for Iran's rulers By John Irish Rudy Giuliani, former Mayor of New York City, delivers his speech as he attends the National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI), meeting in Villepinte, near Paris, France, June 30, 2018. REUTERS/Regis Duvignau VILLEPINTE, France (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump will suffocate Iran's "dictatorial ayatollahs", his close ally Rudy Giuliani said on Saturday, suggesting his move to re-impose sanctions was aimed squarely at regime change. The former New York mayor who is now Trump's personal lawyer was addressing a conference of the Paris-based National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI), an umbrella bloc of groups of exiled Iranians opposed to the Islamic Republic. "We are now realistically being able to see an end to the regime in Iran," Giuliani said, pointing to recent protests in the country sparked by a currency collapse after Trump pulled out of the 2015 nuclear deal. "When the greatest economic power stops doing business with you then you collapse ... and the sanctions will become greater, greater and greater," he said. At the same conference last year, John Bolton, who was appointed Trump's National Security Advisor in April this year, told NCRI members they would be ruling Iran before 2019. Bolton, who at the time was with the American Enterprise Institute think tank, told Fox News in January: "Our goal should be regime change in Iran." But, freshly appointed to the Trump administration, he told ABC's "This Week" in May: "That's not the policy of the administration. The policy of the administration is to make sure that Iran never gets close to deliverable nuclear weapons." European countries which signed the 2015 Iran deal along with the United States, Russia and China, are sticking with it, saying the agreement prevents Iran developing weapons-grade nuclear fuel. But Giuliani said Europe should be "ashamed" of itself. "This president doesn't intend to turn his back on freedom fighters. The end of appeasement is over," he told the conference of the NCRI, whose main faction is the People’s Mujahideen Organisation of Iran (PMOI) once deemed a terrorist group by Washington and Europe. Maryam Rajavi, who heads the group, told reporters: "Regime change in Iran is within reach as never before ... The wheels of change have started turning." In Tehran, supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said Trump would fail in any attempt to turn the Iranian people against the ruling system. "They bring to bear economic pressure to separate the nation from the system ... but six U.S. presidents before him (Trump) tried this and had to give up," Khamenei said on his website. -- © Copyright Reuters 2018-07-01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Samui Bodoh Posted July 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2018 "...Bolton, who at the time was with the American Enterprise Institute think tank, told Fox News in January: "Our goal should be regime change in Iran..." Haven't we heard this before? From essentially the same people? And, how did that work out? Good, was it? "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." 16 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simple1 Posted July 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2018 National Council of Resistance of Iran is aligned to the Marxist People's Mujahedin of Iran (MEK), both groups have at different times been prescribed as terrorist organisations, later delisted. Trump Administration support appears to be way out of line, let's hear the Administration's support for Giuliani's activities or are they as usual out of synch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Council_of_Resistance_of_Iran 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zaphod reborn Posted July 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2018 Quote Trump ally Giuliani says end is near for Iran's rulers Mueller says the end is near for Giuliani. That's why Giuliani hasn't been talking about Russiagate anymore. During the campaign he suggested he had advance knowledge of the Clinton email leaks. Flynn has also implicated him in a plot to kidnap a Turkish dissident from Pennsylvania on behalf of Erdogan. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Expatthailover Posted July 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) So two of the biggest foot in mouth exponents in the don the dodgers circus contradict each other. Quelle surprise Edited July 1, 2018 by Expatthailover 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post charmonman Posted July 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2018 Regime change in a middle eastern country. Gee, what could possibly go wrong? 10 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pegman Posted July 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2018 35 minutes ago, charmonman said: Regime change in a middle eastern country. Gee, what could possibly go wrong? My $$$ is on regime change in Washington before Tehran. Make it happen Mueller. 8 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lionsincity Posted July 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2018 what short memories these republican muppets have 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ulic Posted July 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2018 1 hour ago, charmonman said: Regime change in a middle eastern country. Gee, what could possibly go wrong? Just too bad there are no points of reference on this....... 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Knocker33 Posted July 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) W$F is it with America poking their *$€¥img nose in other people's countries. Must need more oil Edited July 1, 2018 by Knocker33 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Basil B Posted July 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Knocker33 said: W$F is it with America poking their *$€¥img nose in other people's countries. Must need more oil to deflect attention from problems closer to home, maybe??? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Basil B said: to deflect attention from problems closer to home, maybe??? I think their big problem is about to be too much oil they cannot sell. To China!!!!! Who will buy more from Iran! Trump should be putting more effort into renewables instead of making empty un fulfillable promises to coal constituencies. Fossil fuels are on the way out. Oil is too valuable to waste it by burning it into CO2. The switch to electricity for transport has so many people behind it for so many good reasons that it is just like The Donald. A no brainer! Edited July 1, 2018 by The Deerhunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expatthailover Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 It now would seem that ally means flunky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Srikcir Posted July 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2018 11 hours ago, rooster59 said: U.S. President Donald Trump will suffocate Iran's "dictatorial ayatollahs", his close ally Rudy Giuliani said on Saturday, suggesting his move to re-impose sanctions was aimed squarely at regime change. “We will stop racing to topple foreign regimes that we know nothing about, that we shouldn’t be involved with,” - POTUS elect Trump Dec. 2016 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/07/donald-trump-we-will-stop-racing-to-topple-foreign-regimes Nov. 2016 Giuliani has no international diplomatic experience, outside of welcoming foreign dignitaries to the city of New York, and has primarily distinguished himself this campaign season by launching ill-founded attacks on Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton's health, intelligence and status as the "founder of ISIS." https://mic.com/articles/159462/rudy-giuliani-john-bolton-both-floated-as-secretary-of-state-under-trump-admin#.4aNs3SsdB 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Theory Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, rooster59 said: "They bring to bear economic pressure to separate the nation from the system ... but six U.S. presidents before him (Trump) tried this and had to give up," Khamenei said on his website. The fact is none of those six presidents really tried to do so until now. Europeans always wanted to have a nice political connection with Iranian regim since they could take all natural resources of Iran for dirt cheap. Europeans never care about people of Iran. The only thing France cares is own investments in Iran. Hopefully Trump will end this regim soon. For good of the world and for good of the people of Iran. Edited July 1, 2018 by The Theory 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, The Theory said: The fact is none of those six presidents really tried to do so until now. Europeans always wanted to have a nice political connection with Iranian regim since they could take all natural resources of Iran for dirt cheap. Europeans never care about people of Iran. The only thing France cares is own investments in Iran. Hopefully Trump will end this regim soon. For good of the world and for good of the people of Iran. MIGA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Theory Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, lionsincity said: what short memories these republican muppets have Better tha Democrat muppets, that islamic regim was endorsed by Mr Democrat president Carter 40 years ago by removing the king of Iran under name of “revolution” ? many stupids believed this revolution crap and hostages that was all staged. Edited July 1, 2018 by The Theory 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 I don’t believe anything trump says and Rudy is kinda nuts if they weren’t Muslim trump would be kissing their ass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 22 minutes ago, The Theory said: Better tha Democrat muppets, that islamic regim was endorsed by Mr Democrat president Carter 40 years ago by removing the king of Iran under name of “revolution” ? many stupids believed this revolution crap and hostages that was all staged. Do you really believe what you wrote? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Theory Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) 44 minutes ago, stevenl said: Do you really believe what you wrote? What I believe is not important, If you just get your information from news every night, then I don’t expect you to know anything about what happened in Iran and Ifghanistan 40 years ago. Iraq as well. France sent iran’s revelitionery leader and his team from Paris to Iran by a VIP flight after westerners negotiationed with him in Nofel Loshato, France. He replaced the King of Iran by pre programmed revolution. There is a lot about history. https://goo.gl/images/NXMK5t Edited July 1, 2018 by The Theory 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 1 hour ago, The Theory said: The fact is none of those six presidents really tried to do so until now. Europeans always wanted to have a nice political connection with Iranian regim since they could take all natural resources of Iran for dirt cheap. Europeans never care about people of Iran. The only thing France cares is own investments in Iran. Hopefully Trump will end this regim soon. For good of the world and for good of the people of Iran. And by what right has Trump got to try to end the regime in Iran. It is a sovereign nation and has actually been around far longer than the USA. Just because Trump has taken a dislike to Iran means little or nothing. To end the regime in Iran, Israel and its puppet state, the USA will have to declare war with the USA puppet state of Saudi Arabia. They will NOT get the support of their NATO allies, nor the EU or anybody else and they will be condemned forever. They will probably win in the end but the cost in human lives will be horrendous. Iran will never become a puppet of the USA. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) 59 minutes ago, The Theory said: What I believe is not important, If you just get your information from news every night, then I don’t expect you to know anything about what happened in Iran and Ifghanistan 40 years ago. Iraq as well. France sent iran’s revelitionery leader and his team from Paris to Iran by a VIP flight after westerners negotiationed with him in Nofel Loshato, France. He replaced the King of Iran by pre programmed revolution. There is a lot about history. https://goo.gl/images/NXMK5t Firstly there was NO king of Iran only the Shah. His name was Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, also known as Mohammad Reza Shah, was the last Shah of Iran from 16 September 1941 until his overthrow by the Iranian Revolution on 11 February 1979. Mohammad Reza Shah took the title Shahanshah on 26 October 1967. There IS a lot about history and it is a pity that you did not take the time to research any of it. https://www.britannica.com/biography/Mohammad-Reza-Shah-Pahlavi Mohammad Reza was the eldest son of Reza Shah Pahlavi, an army officer who became the ruler of Iran and founder of the Pahlavi dynasty in 1925. Mohammad Reza was educated in Switzerland and returned to Iran in 1935. In 1941 the Soviet Union and Great Britain, fearing that the shah would cooperate with Nazi Germany to rid himself of their tutelage, occupied Iran and forced Reza Shah into exile. Mohammad Reza then replaced his father on the throne (September 16, 1941). In the early 1950s a struggle for control of the Iranian government developed between the shah and Mohammad Mosaddeq, a zealous Iranian nationalist. In March 1951 Mosaddeq secured passage of a bill in the Majles (parliament) to nationalize the vast British petroleum interests in Iran. Mosaddeq’s power grew rapidly, and by the end of April Mohammad Reza had been forced to appoint Mosaddeq premier. A two-year period of tension and conflict followed. In August 1953 the shah tried to dismiss Mosaddeq but was himself forced to leave the country by Mosaddeq’s supporters. Several days later, however, Mosaddeq’s opponents, with the covert support and assistance of the United States and the United Kingdom, restored Mohammad Reza to power. PS Where is Ifghanistan? Can I assume that your first language is not English and you really meant Afghanistan? Edited July 1, 2018 by billd766 added extra text 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Theory Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, billd766 said: Firstly there was NO king of Iran only the Shah. His name was Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, also known as Mohammad Reza Shah, was the last Shah of Iran from 16 September 1941 until his overthrow by the Iranian Revolution on 11 February 1979. Mohammad Reza Shah took the title Shahanshah on 26 October 1967. There IS a lot about history and it is a pity that you did not take the time to research any of it. https://www.britannica.com/biography/Mohammad-Reza-Shah-Pahlavi Mohammad Reza was the eldest son of Reza Shah Pahlavi, an army officer who became the ruler of Iran and founder of the Pahlavi dynasty in 1925. Mohammad Reza was educated in Switzerland and returned to Iran in 1935. In 1941 the Soviet Union and Great Britain, fearing that the shah would cooperate with Nazi Germany to rid himself of their tutelage, occupied Iran and forced Reza Shah into exile. Mohammad Reza then replaced his father on the throne (September 16, 1941). In the early 1950s a struggle for control of the Iranian government developed between the shah and Mohammad Mosaddeq, a zealous Iranian nationalist. In March 1951 Mosaddeq secured passage of a bill in the Majles (parliament) to nationalize the vast British petroleum interests in Iran. Mosaddeq’s power grew rapidly, and by the end of April Mohammad Reza had been forced to appoint Mosaddeq premier. A two-year period of tension and conflict followed. In August 1953 the shah tried to dismiss Mosaddeq but was himself forced to leave the country by Mosaddeq’s supporters. Several days later, however, Mosaddeq’s opponents, with the covert support and assistance of the United States and the United Kingdom, restored Mohammad Reza to power. PS Where is Ifghanistan? Can I assume that your first language is not English and you really meant Afghanistan? Wow , you really know a lot, even you know about my English. You must be one of those who come to Thailand to be an English teacher. I have never been a good English student anyway, but I had a Mexican friend who made me proud since my English grades were way better than him when I was in the university however he was born in LA. Hopefully Trump will do what he has promised That matters here. Not my spelling Mr. ? Edited July 1, 2018 by The Theory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Theory Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 1 hour ago, billd766 said: Firstly there was NO king of Iran only the Shah. His name was Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, also known as Mohammad Reza Shah, was the last Shah of Iran from 16 September 1941 until his overthrow by the Iranian Revolution on 11 February 1979. Mohammad Reza Shah took the title Shahanshah on 26 October 1967. There IS a lot about history and it is a pity that you did not take the time to research any of it. https://www.britannica.com/biography/Mohammad-Reza-Shah-Pahlavi Mohammad Reza was the eldest son of Reza Shah Pahlavi, an army officer who became the ruler of Iran and founder of the Pahlavi dynasty in 1925. Mohammad Reza was educated in Switzerland and returned to Iran in 1935. In 1941 the Soviet Union and Great Britain, fearing that the shah would cooperate with Nazi Germany to rid himself of their tutelage, occupied Iran and forced Reza Shah into exile. Mohammad Reza then replaced his father on the throne (September 16, 1941). In the early 1950s a struggle for control of the Iranian government developed between the shah and Mohammad Mosaddeq, a zealous Iranian nationalist. In March 1951 Mosaddeq secured passage of a bill in the Majles (parliament) to nationalize the vast British petroleum interests in Iran. Mosaddeq’s power grew rapidly, and by the end of April Mohammad Reza had been forced to appoint Mosaddeq premier. A two-year period of tension and conflict followed. In August 1953 the shah tried to dismiss Mosaddeq but was himself forced to leave the country by Mosaddeq’s supporters. Several days later, however, Mosaddeq’s opponents, with the covert support and assistance of the United States and the United Kingdom, restored Mohammad Reza to power. PS Where is Ifghanistan? Can I assume that your first language is not English and you really meant Afghanistan? Where did you copy all these ? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFLKrabi Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 4 hours ago, The Theory said: The fact is none of those six presidents really tried to do so until now. Europeans always wanted to have a nice political connection with Iranian regim since they could take all natural resources of Iran for dirt cheap. Europeans never care about people of Iran. The only thing France cares is own investments in Iran. Hopefully Trump will end this regim soon. For good of the world and for good of the people of Iran. If you’d be so kind as to help me here, exactly where has the US’s policy of regime change really helped the local population? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Theory Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, TEFLKrabi said: If you’d be so kind as to help me here, exactly where has the US’s policy of regime change really helped the local population? People of Iran may receive benefit of liberation (not by another war, but by people of Iran) “just because” US need to stop this regime from founding particular parties in other countries of the region by using assets of Iran that belong to “people” of Iran. Edited July 1, 2018 by The Theory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushdoctor Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 If Iran were to stop sponsoring terrorism and stop trying to develop nuclear weapons, Trump might just change his tune, but until then the pressure will continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bristolboy Posted July 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, bushdoctor said: If Iran were to stop sponsoring terrorism and stop trying to develop nuclear weapons, Trump might just change his tune, but until then the pressure will continue. Even Israel's intelligence establishment believed that the agreement was working. Can't believe you swalllow another of Trump's lies. Edited July 1, 2018 by bristolboy 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 5 hours ago, bushdoctor said: If Iran were to stop sponsoring terrorism and stop trying to develop nuclear weapons, Trump might just change his tune, but until then the pressure will continue. Iran is Israel's enemy, US is Israel's friend. And these days we can add SA to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFLKrabi Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 People of Iran may receive benefit of liberation (not by another war, but by people of Iran) “just because” US need to stop this regime from founding particular parties in other countries of the region by using assets of Iran that belong to “people” of Iran.Liberation from what? Do you really think they’re an oppressed people?Sent from my iPad using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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