Popular Post Nigeone Posted July 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, yrag said: BRITISH WERE NOT FIRST, First to talk...their were Thai seals there as well same time.....Great work but stop putting one country on a pedestal when this has been a joint effort by all.... Only in your dreams . So why wernt the conversations with team in Thai then. !!! There clearly wasn't any Thai personnel in that cave when they were found end off..grow up and smell the coffee ! Agreed totally though a great joint effort ! Edited July 4, 2018 by Nigeone 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkfish Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 27 minutes ago, Sheryl said: All three of them or just one? I have seen conflicting reports. One would think their continued advice on best extraction methods would be useful. I heard all 3 but hope not as well as I'm sure their expertise will be useful for exaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigeone Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 1 minute ago, monkfish said: I heard all 3 but hope not as well as I'm sure their expertise will be useful for exaction. Reports on U.K. News stations and CNN is that they have stayed as advisors only and it's been all taken over by Thai military Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post grollies Posted July 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, yrag said: BRITISH WERE NOT FIRST, First to talk...their were Thai seals there as well same time.....Great work but stop putting one country on a pedestal when this has been a joint effort by all.... What exactly do you have against the English? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post billd766 Posted July 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, yrag said: BRITISH WERE NOT FIRST, First to talk...their were Thai seals there as well same time.....Great work but stop putting one country on a pedestal when this has been a joint effort by all.... So you believe that Thai SEALS actually got to the boys first but decided not to show themselves or contact the boys in any way at all? That they generously allowed the Brits to be the first ones to talk to the boys? Do you also believe that all the PR and News teams suppressed the fact that the SEALS were first on the scene? Of course it is a joint effort and nobody was putting any country on a pedestal. Try to understand the difference between Navy SEALS who would rarely work in caves and the Brits who do this sort of thing on a regular basis in many countries across the world. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 12 hours ago, NCC1701A said: Ben Reymenants told Sky News: “This is one of the more extreme cave dives that I have done. It is very far, and very complex. When it starts raining the flow is so hard you can barely swim against it and the visibility reduces to zero.” https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1014178419183980545 This same guy? Ben Reymenants owner and founder Blue Label Diving Most people who meet Ben Reymenants’s take an instant liking to him. He is friendly and calm has the world of knowledge about technical diving, rebreathers and dive medics which he cannot wait to share with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bung Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Quite simply the 3 Brits were the first as they are simply the best at exploring uncharted cave diving in the world. Could have been any Nationality, Thais included. There was no time to pick and choose who should be first. Once through they then had a line (rope) that everyone else could follow quickly and safely. Watch the you tube video posted earlier to get an idea of how hard uncharted cave diving is. Again, a brilliant job by all involved. Hope they manage to bring them out, this is going to prove to be difficult unless they can drop the water levels. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AlexRich Posted July 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, yrag said: BRITISH WERE NOT FIRST, First to talk...their were Thai seals there as well same time.....Great work but stop putting one country on a pedestal when this has been a joint effort by all.... You insert a quote from me and then delete it? Then you make the ridiculous statement above? The effect of doing so means that no one has any idea what you are referring to? The two Englishmen are world-renowned cave rescuers and it is not surprise that they LED Thai Navy Seals to the boys ... and that's why they were the FIRST to meet them. The Navy Seals are experienced divers but they are not search and rescue experts, so no surprise there. The two guys deserve all the plaudits ... they travelled thousands of miles and I suspect that the 12 kids and coach are very grateful to them. Edited July 4, 2018 by AlexRich 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRich Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, grollies said: What exactly do you have against the English? I think one may have ran away with his Thai boyfriend? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkfish Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 29 minutes ago, yrag said: BRITISH WERE NOT FIRST, First to talk...their were Thai seals there as well same time.....Great work but stop putting one country on a pedestal when this has been a joint effort by all.... Yea don't worry the Thai seals are getting all the credit on Thai TV now no more mention of the Brits probably won't be long before they claim it was the Navy Seals speaking English. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, monkfish said: Yea don't worry the Thai seals are getting all the credit on Thai TV now no more mention of the Brits probably won't be long before they claim it was the Navy Seals speaking English. This post is a head dive ,right to the rock bottom - you are an expert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Familyonthemove Posted July 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, monkfish said: I heard all 3 but hope not as well as I'm sure their expertise will be useful for exaction. They've done their job and gone home for well earned tea and biscuits. From what I've heard each team had a clear role, and the UK divers had the unique experience in laying the ropes whilst diving in very difficult conditions - so they had to go first. Now the ropes are in place, the medical specialists and local divers can come and go as needed. So a great team effort by all, including some people who are not in the cave, such as Thai Airways. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkfish Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 16 minutes ago, ravip said: This post is a head dive ,right to the rock bottom - you are an expert. Yes well I'm not the one claiming the Navy Seals found the boys. Yes it was a team effort and everyone involved is a Hero! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sheryl Posted July 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2018 29 minutes ago, AlexRich said: ... The Navy Seals are experienced divers but they are not search and rescue experts, so no surprise there. Actually I think SEALs do have search and rescue experience/expertise, but not extending to cave diving. That is highly, highly specialized and only a handful of people worldwide are experts in it. Fortunately, they came here. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon537687643 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 The British divers who found the boys have now returned to the UK without taking any credit or medals their job is done. Yes because we don’t have to pose in photographs,in uniforms !Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon537687643 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 It is very humorous and sad to see many people, especially who are very advanced in age, bickering and insulting each other about who raised the flag first! Definitely with the advancement of age it seems the mental status detiriorates rapidly. Very sad indeed, but inevitable - or, is this phenomena brought aboout with the 'TVF attitude' By the way, in the news... He said the whole team is now safely in the hands of seven Seal divers, a military doctor and a nurse from the Royal Thai Navy's underwater and hyperbaric medicine unit, who have volunteered to stay with...Nothing wrong with saying a British diving team found them at 4:30 am Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, markaoffy said: Yes because we don’t have to pose in photographs,in uniforms ! Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Great! But the gallery is not giving in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 45 minutes ago, monkfish said: Yes well I'm not the one claiming the Navy Seals found the boys. Yes it was a team effort and everyone involved is a Hero! The Professionals have done the job and bowed out - but the gallery is tearing the flesh apart. What a disgraceful behavior. Or maybe not...? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, markaoffy said: Nothing wrong with saying a British diving team found them at 4:30 am Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Definitely not (I am not sure of the time). For me anyone can say any thing, but the important fact is that the children were found. My respect to ALL involved - the decorations, anyone can fight for! Cheap bickering is disgusting, especially by the aged community! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKr Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 On 7/3/2018 at 12:23 PM, NCC1701A said: Thais could learn many things from all the Farangs. But no. Maybe they will file this experience in the back of their heads and stop and listen for a change. In this kind of searches, nothing will beat experience and determination. (and training, training, love what you do, and more training) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nigeone Posted July 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2018 As I've said before on other posts totally predictable that if true the Brits have left. Most good people from Britain are modest when they have carried out a brave or outstanding act. Sadly it's something that most Thais in uniform haven't learned and I cringe at what will happen over the next weeks with the predictable photo shoots and media frenzy. At the end of the day though the British experts will not be forgotten while the many uniformed media grabbing members of Thai police and Military will. On a footnote the Brit divers aren't stupid and I'm sure knew that the best option was to head out and leave local experts! crack on 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yrag Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 11 hours ago, Nigeone said: Only in your dreams . So why wernt the conversations with team in Thai then. !!! There clearly wasn't any Thai personnel in that cave when they were found end off..grow up and smell the coffee ! Agreed totally though a great joint effort ! Dear Delusional One Watch the Video, Thai seal told them to back up on the ledge, furthermore many articles i read state Thai seals were there even Governor who failed to mention the Brits..And please try to be informed before you smell your coffee and what ever you got in it...small one....have a good day dear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yrag Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 11 hours ago, monkfish said: Yea don't worry the Thai seals are getting all the credit on Thai TV now no more mention of the Brits probably won't be long before they claim it was the Navy Seals speaking English. Not worry , world know be the brits and thai navy seals there as well, What burns me up.... Governor mention the seals not the brits....I think i don't like that man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yrag Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 11 hours ago, grollies said: What exactly do you have against the English? Absolutely nothing 1. Was a joint Effort by many 2. Thai seals there at same time. 3. Brits are some of the very best, and just maybe the best...But their are many same capabilities in scuba. 4. End of the day they were found and not rescued, Hard part is yet to come.... Happy Ending is all that matters..not who was First. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AlexRich Posted July 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2018 2 hours ago, yrag said: Dear Delusional One Watch the Video, Thai seal told them to back up on the ledge, furthermore many articles i read state Thai seals were there even Governor who failed to mention the Brits..And please try to be informed before you smell your coffee and what ever you got in it...small one....have a good day dear It's so amusing to watch how painful it is for you that the two English search and rescue experts reached those kids first, and effectively led the search. That was the reason that they were invited. In an earlier rescue the French Government asked for them by name, because they are recognised as world class in their field. You're making a fool of yourself. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRich Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 2 hours ago, yrag said: Absolutely nothing 1. Was a joint Effort by many 2. Thai seals there at same time. 3. Brits are some of the very best, and just maybe the best...But their are many same capabilities in scuba. 4. End of the day they were found and not rescued, Hard part is yet to come.... Happy Ending is all that matters..not who was First. It's really sad to read this and imagine living in a head like this one? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post billd766 Posted July 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2018 11 hours ago, yrag said: Absolutely nothing 1. Was a joint Effort by many 2. Thai seals there at same time. 3. Brits are some of the very best, and just maybe the best...But their are many same capabilities in scuba. 4. End of the day they were found and not rescued, Hard part is yet to come.... Happy Ending is all that matters..not who was First. I. I agree 2. No they were not, or they would have shown themselves. The Brits on the scene explained that there would be more people returning the following day. SEALs are not trained in cave diving though perhaps in Thailand it might be a good idea to do so as a specialised skill in the future. 3. The Brits ARE the best at cave diving. There is NO comparison between scuba diving and cave diving other than scuba diving is just the first step towards cave diving. Scuba diving is usually done in clear open water. Cave diving requires rigorous training far beyond that of scube diving and is done in places where there is no lighting and usually it is impossible to see more than a metre ahead of you. In addition you have no idea usually where the cave is leading to or even the size of the hole you are following. 4. I agree with you there. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon537687643 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Interesting to know the Nationalities of those not wanting to heap praise on the Brits,best Caver Divers in the world ! USA Australian,European ? And don’t say you are British because that would be a lie !!! Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigeone Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 20 hours ago, yrag said: Absolutely nothing 1. Was a joint Effort by many 2. Thai seals there at same time. 3. Brits are some of the very best, and just maybe the best...But their are many same capabilities in scuba. 4. End of the day they were found and not rescued, Hard part is yet to come.... Happy Ending is all that matters..not who was First. Oh Dear ...despite leading the efforts to find the trapped Football team It now looks like the British experts are now going to have to show your precious Thai SEALS how to rescue them also. Yes another two British expert Cave divers have Just left the U.K. Bringing with them lots is specialist equipment including adaptors To allow them to use Thai Seals bottles ! funny how your elite don't have that equipment available !! Actually it's not ! So looks like despite your narrow minded Rhetoric looks like your lads aren't as good as YOU say ! Ohh and for the record no more abusive PM's please and I'm a guy and don't take kindly to your sexist remarks About woman ! Wind your neck in ..ohh and I don't do drugs or drink very rarely also Unlike it would seem you..back to the great effort now by many people including Thai SEALS ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yrag Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 oh u lady boy...Peace! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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