Skirting and Architrave

[KhaoYai]

I'm getting towards the end of a major refurbishment of my house at Khao Yai and I'd like to fit skirtings and architraves - sorry, a row of tiles in place of skirting and no architrave doesn't do it for me.  I've found some wood effect composite material that I could use for skirtings but I can't find matching architrave. Every time I think I've found some, on inspection the back side is chamfered so it will not sit back tight to the wall.

 

I know most Thai buildings don't use skirtings or architrave but I've seen it in hotels and other buildings in Bangkok. I'm not looking for any fancy moulding designs, just plain and modern - anyone know where matching skirting and architrave can be bought? 

 

Just to make things more difficult, I would prefer wood or mdf - the composite materials look great but my joinery skills ain't great and Thai corners ain't exactly square. At least with wood any slight gaps can be filled and painted. Wood in general seems to be in short supply in Thailand and whereas in the UK, wood is still a major buidling material, very little wood seems to be used in Thai construction.  I've found a few wood yards around home but all they keep is very low grade, rough sawn timber that doesn't look like it would plane up well at all.

 

I'm probably going to have to pay through the nose but I'll only be fitting them once - surely there's a traditional timber yard somewhere?

[Kwasaki]

Seen architrave in SCG Homemart shops.

[Artisi]

Plenty of products around to use to fill any "gaps" from bad fits or odd angled corners. 

[KhaoYai]

43 minutes ago, Artisi said:

Plenty of products around to use to fill any "gaps" from bad fits or odd angled corners. 

Yes I know that. But try filling gaps in a wood effect composite material without it showing. I think you've misread my post.

[KhaoYai]

53 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Seen architrave in SCG Homemart shops.

Thanks, the only thing that resembles architrave at my local SCG is actually bevelled at the rear so when you press it flat against the door casing its actually proud of the wall on its outside edge.  However, it could just be that they don't stock actual architrave at that branch - they don't even keep concrete lintels in stock because local builders cast them on site - madness! I'm friendly with the manager at the local SCG, I'll ask him its its available - cheers.

[Kwasaki]

3 minutes ago, KhaoYai said:

Thanks, the only thing that resembles architrave at my local SCG is actually bevelled at the rear so when you press it flat against the door casing its actually proud of the wall on its outside edge.  However, it could just be that they don't stock actual architrave at that branch - they don't even keep concrete lintels in stock because local builders cast them on site - madness! I'm friendly with the manager at the local SCG, I'll ask him its its available - cheers.

Global house do many types of trims try them.

I had timber ones made by a local wood-shop many moons ago.?

Edited July 4, 2018 by Kwasaki

[Crossy]

We have skirtings but no architraves, our door frames are the same thickness as the walls and are just finished and stained.

 

Skirtings are mai daeng spindle-moulded to order by the same chaps who did our mai daeng flooring and stairs.

[KhaoYai]

Just now, Kwasaki said:

Global house do many types of trims try them.

Yes, I was going to try them on my next trip. There isn't one locally but I'm sure I'll pass one on the way from Bangkok.

[KhaoYai]

2 minutes ago, Crossy said:

We have skirtings but no architraves, our door frames are the same thickness as the walls and are just finished and stained.

 

Skirtings are mai daeng spindle-moulded to order by the same chaps who did our mai daeng flooring and stairs.

Interesting, I'm wanting simple bull-nosed skirting. I presume they can finish it to and style and could possibly cut the height down so as to be suitable as architrave?

[Crossy]

14 minutes ago, KhaoYai said:

Interesting, I'm wanting simple bull-nosed skirting. I presume they can finish it to and style and could possibly cut the height down so as to be suitable as architrave?

You need to find a place that does custom doors and windows, they will have the machinery (and wood stocks) to make what you want.

 

You'll need a Thai speaker and some images of the sort of thing you require.

 

Bangkok doesn't have a monopoly of these chaps, but finding them may be a challenge, you'll need the help of the locals.

 

EDIT I was amazed how good our architrave-free door and window frames look, the render cut very neatly into the frame and the frame stained.

 

[KhaoYai]

Thanks, thinking about it, the company that made my UPVC windows were brilliant and the boss speaks English very well.  I'm sure they get asked for wooden windows so they may know someone.

[eyecatcher]

The timber skirtings are usually made with two profiles for your choice.

So for example chamfered on one side and ogee/torus on the other. It is unusual for them to make a twin profile for architraves which makes me think you are offering skirting up to the door frame hence that gap agin the plaster.

 

Global have many profiles,  the chamfered and the bullniose are ideal for archs at 50mm or 40mm wide and in teak or hardwood but its expensive to doo more than half a dozen doors plus Globals wood is never looked after and most often bent worse than a banana because the stores are simply too humid.

 

unfortunately the best alternative MDF still really hasn't found its way here yet, although they have started selling some excellent HDf white panel doors for only 500bt. when the skirts and archs arrive in MdF they will be perfect, do no bend, good finish etc.

 

we are lucky to have a Suksawad Timber in Chiang Mai, not sure if they are National, doubt it but its your traditional timber stockiest for carcassing, joists, posts, stair parts and profiles.Still expensive though i.m.o

[KhaoYai]

2 hours ago, eyecatcher said:

The timber skirtings are usually made with two profiles for your choice.

So for example chamfered on one side and ogee/torus on the other. It is unusual for them to make a twin profile for architraves which makes me think you are offering skirting up to the door frame hence that gap agin the plaster.

No, I don't think what I was looking at was actually either skirting or architrave. It was just some wood effect profile that looked like it would do the job until I noticed the chamfer that makes them stand proud.  No idea what its real purpose was. Hard to describe it really - a bit like a very large picture frame profile.

[Fruit Trader]

I also like skirting and trimmed door frames and we have two variations because part of the house is wood.   

Picture shows painted Shera skirting and custom architrave made by local furniture shop using plywood back and ready made trim pinned and glued together. The shop does lots of MDF machining for shop displays and can custom make solid hardwood architrave but its crazy expensive.

 

Beware using wood trim in damp areas as termites have a habit of eating from the inside out and leaving you only the paint or varnish. 

 

[AJBangkok]

Try these guys. They did my Hua Hin house. Good quality, good price  but a little slow. They have a guy that speaks English.

 

http://www.pratoothai.com/door-frame.html#Architrave ซับวงกบ

[AJBangkok]

Here is a pic - they use a proprietary wood composite which is indistinguishable from real wood.

 

 

[sometimewoodworker]

On 7/5/2018 at 9:02 AM, AJBangkok said:

Here is a pic - they use a proprietary wood composite which is indistinguishable from real wood.

 

 

I know it's off topic but whoever fitted the hinges to that door really needs a lesson in door fitting. How many are being used? From the looks it must be at least 5 also there is a strange mix of Philips and torx screws 

[KhaoYai]

On 7/5/2018 at 3:02 AM, AJBangkok said:

Here is a pic - they use a proprietary wood composite which is indistinguishable from real wood.

Thanks for that. Unfortuantely that would involve replacing the complete door frames.  All my walls are newly rendered and there's nothing wrong with the doors and frames. I'm just looking for simple architrave and skirtings. I may go that far in the future but at the moment I just need to get back in to my house - finished.

[sometimewoodworker]

29 minutes ago, KhaoYai said:

Thanks for that. Unfortuantely that would involve replacing the complete door frames.  All my walls are newly rendered and there's nothing wrong with the doors and frames. I'm just looking for simple architrave and skirtings. I may go that far in the future but at the moment I just need to get back in to my house - finished.

If you want to go to Bangkok then wood street and Pan Far have shops with a very good selection of mouldings, l'm not sure if the will have exactly what you want however around wood street you will find workshops that can make what you want.

[KhaoYai]

7 hours ago, sometimewoodworker said:

If you want to go to Bangkok then wood street and Pan Far have shops with a very good selection of mouldings, l'm not sure if the will have exactly what you want however around wood street you will find workshops that can make what you want.

Thanks, sounds good. I'll be staying in Bangkok for a couple of nights - I'll Google them - unless you have contact details?

[sometimewoodworker]

10 hours ago, KhaoYai said:

Thanks, sounds good. I'll be staying in Bangkok for a couple of nights - I'll Google them - unless you have contact details?

The center of Wood street, there are many shops in the area

 

N 13.80943° E 100.52493°

 

Pan Far

N 13.75520° E 100.50912°

Possibly even the shop itself.

Edited July 13, 2018 by sometimewoodworker

[KhaoYai]

5 hours ago, sometimewoodworker said:

The center of Wood street, there are many shops in the area

 

N 13.80943° E 100.52493°

 

Pan Far

N 13.75520° E 100.50912°

Possibly even the shop itself.

Much appreciated.