The Chinese husband of the owner of ‘Phoenix’ speaks to Chinese media

[newatthis]

12 minutes ago, saminoz said:

You may be right but, despite the repeated reports of it "capsizing", the boat (from the photos) looked as though it went dwn by the stern.  Again, from photos and some video clips, this may have been because the "catain" turned the boat "stern to" the sea to facilitate a rescue?  

I am sure it will al come ut in the post mortem.  Nothing seems clear enough to apportion blame for the actual sinking, but the actions of the crew and "captain" were, at the very least, cowardly (IMHO).

There is no excuse for jumping into a liferaft before ensuring that all your charges are safely off the vessel.

Yes, this is the part, I cannot fully comprehend: How the captain and crew can be alive and safe  while half the passengers are dead or missing.

[jippytum]

The authorities have been vocal in their opposition to Chinese tour company's with Thai nominees dominating the Chinese tour markets in Thailand . Here is a perfect example  of the practice . It may be however the same authorities are probably relieved with so many fatalities the financial  principles  are themselves  Chinese. 

[hansnl]

2 hours ago, nahkit said:

Hard as it is for me to say this, it seems that Prawit may have known what he was talking about when he said blame the Chinese tour company.

Just shows that most Chinese tourists are having a holiday with Chinese companies, paid for in China, probably, with only a tiny part of the proceeds staying in Thailand.

[Aachen]

4 hours ago, Kieran00001 said:

So no different than every single farang owned company then, according to you half the bars we drink in are sending their profits to Europe and America, which is just nonsense.

Bars make no profit. Bars are Hobby of falang to destroy there money.

[Kieran00001]

1 minute ago, Aachen said:

Bars make no profit. Bars are Hobby of falang to destroy there money.

 

Completely irrelevant, unless you are trying to claim that once a business starts making a profit that it should be subjected to different laws altogether, which would certainly kill off any future chance for foreign investment.

[Thian]

The Thai should also lease some western-standard vessels including staff for the high class tourists who are willing to pay extra for safety.

[Cheops]

1 hour ago, newatthis said:

Yes, this is the part, I cannot fully comprehend: How the captain and crew can be alive and safe  while half the passengers are dead or missing.

You cannot fully comprehend, because you were not there! For the same reason therefore you cannot and should not make assumptions and blame the captain and crew. Maybe they did what they could and saved half of the people! You do not know!

[balo]

Boat from 2016 ?  Who is the ship builder?  I can promise you it's not Norwegian made , or it would have been seaworthy .   

No , this is made in China. And built as cheap as possible. 

 

 

 

[Nigeone]

15 hours ago, MekkOne said:

the problem probably is that were 104 people on board in that boat, looking right now at the proportions of the men standing on the bridge IMHO were far too much people...

Disagree with you as that ship is well capable of carrying a lot more than 104 safely . In effect it's got 3 decks so that amount isn't many for it's size

[Nigeone]

12 hours ago, saminoz said:

You may be right but, despite the repeated reports of it "capsizing", the boat (from the photos) looked as though it went down by the stern.  Again, from photos and some video clips, this may have been because the "captain" turned the boat "stern to" the sea to facilitate a rescue?  

I am sure it will all come out in the post mortem.  Nothing seems clear enough to apportion blame for the actual sinking, but the actions of the crew and "captain" were, at the very least, cowardly (IMHO).

There is no excuse for jumping into a liferaft before ensuring that all your charges are safely off the vessel.

In heavy seas you always head into the storm or seas . That's standard practice in big seas and cut your speed down so your not hitting the troughs and 'submarining ' into the next big wave or for sure you'll take on water big time .  If you get caught side on your going to sink quickly on big seas as you roll 

[Rhys]

... rip .... all the best to the families....   leave it there..

[mike324]

pretty much all of these cheap boats built in thailand are not up to spec in anyway, this is the main reason for boat accidents that sink.

[LivinginKata]

38 minutes ago, mike324 said:

pretty much all of these cheap boats built in thailand are not up to spec in anyway, this is the main reason for boat accidents that sink.

 

Never mind whether the original design spec is safe or not. It's the modifications like an extra deck that really make these already top heavy vessels into a disaster waiting to happen.

[spidermike007]

On 7/10/2018 at 1:37 PM, seajae said:

thing is, is the thai govt going to have the balls to charge the owners of the vessel and shut them down for this violation of safety or will they allow them to use the captain who was following their orders be the scapegoat. This is obviously a chinese company so they should be investigated and closed

The Thai government standing up to China? I would love to see that. Does not happen often. Thailand is very soft on China. The fact that this boat was owned by Chinese, more than likely with cash, means this will probably go away. Typically the Thai government and culture do not demand responsibility. Not often. No doubt the owner should be jailed for life. And the captain. Did he survive? He should be put in the same cell as the owner, for life. This accident could have been avoided so easily. Weather warnings were repeatedly ignored. 

[stevenl]

8 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

The Thai government standing up to China? I would love to see that. Does not happen often. Thailand is very soft on China. The fact that this boat was owned by Chinese, more than likely with cash, means this will probably go away. Typically the Thai government and culture do not demand responsibility. Not often. No doubt the owner should be jailed for life. And the captain. Did he survive? He should be put in the same cell as the owner, for life. This accident could have been avoided so easily. Weather warnings were repeatedly ignored. 

"Weather warnings were repeatedly ignored. "

No, there were no weather warnings.

[spidermike007]

15 minutes ago, stevenl said:

"Weather warnings were repeatedly ignored. "

No, there were no weather warnings.

Absolute nonsense. Are you a PR rep for the owners of the Phoenix? There were multiple warnings. And we are in the middle of monsoon season in the Andaman, where afternoon storms are very common.

 

Tourist Police bureau deputy chief Major General Surachate Hakparn said in a post on Facebook that tour operators had been warned about the severe weather. 

“Be careful… nature is not a joke,” Maj Gen Surachate wrote. “The Tourist Police warned businesses in Phuket already to not take boats out from shore, but they violated this order by taking foreign tourists out,” he said. 

Thai junta number two Prawit Wongsuwon ordered an investigation into why “the boat went to sea” despite a weather warning of strong wind. A representative of the operator of the boat, TC Blue Dream, declined comment when contacted. 

 

Thailand is in the middle of its rainy season, which usually runs from May to October, and often generates high winds and flash storms in coastal areas, especially on its west coast on the Indian Ocean, where Phuket is located. 

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/divers-to-check-sunken-thai-boat-for-missing-chinese-tourists-phuket-governor

[stevenl]

5 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Absolute nonsense. Are you a PR rep for the owners of the Phoenix? There were multiple warnings. And we are in the middle of monsoon season in the Andaman, where afternoon storms are very common.

 

Tourist Police bureau deputy chief Major General Surachate Hakparn said in a post on Facebook that tour operators had been warned about the severe weather. 

“Be careful… nature is not a joke,” Maj Gen Surachate wrote. “The Tourist Police warned businesses in Phuket already to not take boats out from shore, but they violated this order by taking foreign tourists out,” he said. 

Thai junta number two Prawit Wongsuwon ordered an investigation into why “the boat went to sea” despite a weather warning of strong wind. A representative of the operator of the boat, TC Blue Dream, declined comment when contacted. 

 

Thailand is in the middle of its rainy season, which usually runs from May to October, and often generates high winds and flash storms in coastal areas, especially on its west coast on the Indian Ocean, where Phuket is located. 

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/divers-to-check-sunken-thai-boat-for-missing-chinese-tourists-phuket-governor

I posted many times already the weather warning dates of the TMD, the site where the warnings are issued. There were no warnings for this date, they did come the next day though. There had also been no information from Tourist Police to operators or boat captains.

 

Authorities trying to absolve themselves of blame are suddenly believable?

 

And your flame is tired.

[steelepulse]

Can confirm, gov't in CYA mode.